|
|
Post by PreachCaleb on Nov 11, 2019 22:08:51 GMT
Gotta disagree there. I'm sure that's how it feels, but it's just not true. The cheapest of the tackiest movies of the 30s looked like they were filmed on 8 millimeter film stock with props out of a garage sale, and their plot amounted to "run from the monster." No worse than modern horrors. I guess it is just preference then. The older crappy horror movies have a certain charm to them compared to stuff made by Uwe Boll and Ulli Lommel etc. I am referring to the 1930s and 1940s horror movies btw, not the 1960s and 1970s. I do agree on the charm.
|
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Nov 11, 2019 22:14:09 GMT
Older movies are definitely more performance driven. They had to be since special effects were not as advanced. A horror movie in the 1930s 40s-60s-even the 70s relied on performance to carry much of the film.
Once you get to the 90s --editing and exaggerated closeups dominated more and more.
Are there any good screamers?
Do they even bother to scream anymore or is that too unPC?
A woman screaming might be considered kowtowing to patriarchy or something.
|
|
|
|
Post by mortsahlfan on Nov 11, 2019 22:29:08 GMT
I just had a conversation with someone (who is politically correct) and he said "They could NEVER make Blazing Saddle today" (and another 50,000 movies much better), so we're missing out on a lot of possibilities. We should have the best movies NOW. Anyone can upload a movie onto YouTube. People don't need millions of dollars - some make them off a cheap camera.
Maybe the people have been sheeped so far there aren't any artists. Maybe the talent was much better. It's really sad, because I think the music industry is worse.
|
|
|
|
Post by faustus5 on Nov 11, 2019 22:34:40 GMT
I did a poll here months ago, 1930-70s vs. 1980s-present, and older movies won. I was surprised because I know the average age in here is probably much younger than anyone born in the 1930s, but an overwhelming majority chose older movies. Why do YOU think the older movies were better? They aren't better.
|
|
|
|
Post by mortsahlfan on Nov 18, 2019 13:47:39 GMT
And no one is writing great books as Steinbeck, Hemingway, etc. to adapt from.
|
|
|
|
Post by Fox in the Snow on Nov 19, 2019 1:32:35 GMT
I also remember a thread asking people their favorite movies. An overwhelming majority were from the 1930-70s. Yes, but it's an overwhelming majority of a very small group of "film enthusiasts". Look at the IMDb Top 50. 38 of them are post 1970, many from this century. Personally I would probably take pre-1970 over post, but it's by a pretty slim margin as many of my favorites are from the 90s, 00s and 10s.
|
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Nov 19, 2019 1:43:39 GMT
I just had a conversation with someone (who is politically correct) and he said "They could NEVER make Blazing Saddle today" (and another 50,000 movies much better), so we're missing out on a lot of possibilities. We should have the best movies NOW. Anyone can upload a movie onto YouTube. People don't need millions of dollars - some make them off a cheap camera. Maybe the people have been sheeped so far there aren't any artists. Maybe the talent was much better. It's really sad, because I think the music industry is worse. Yes the tech is available to do things but from a business perspective (and an artist perspective) it is somewhat problematic because even if you make the best movie possible chances are it will lack marketing and distribution. Look at that article I posted on the potential change to theater ownership-maybe it doesn't matter at this stage but if it leads to less avenues for independent film it woulds hurt such endeavors. Netflix and others seem to have a bias against independents that are not sanctioned by any of the normal companies. Another issue is that such a depressing environment would probably demoralize artists to some extent and contribute to less enthusiasm for making good works. The advantage of the old system (at least until the 1980s) was a lack of amateurishness, although in fact, these days one has access to so many old movies from different countries it should-in theory-spark a renaissance in film concepts.
Not in the corporate world obviously.
|
|
|
|
Post by mortsahlfan on Nov 19, 2019 11:50:49 GMT
I just had a conversation with someone (who is politically correct) and he said "They could NEVER make Blazing Saddle today" (and another 50,000 movies much better), so we're missing out on a lot of possibilities. We should have the best movies NOW. Anyone can upload a movie onto YouTube. People don't need millions of dollars - some make them off a cheap camera. Maybe the people have been sheeped so far there aren't any artists. Maybe the talent was much better. It's really sad, because I think the music industry is worse. although in fact, these days one has access to so many old movies from different countries it should-in theory-spark a renaissance in film concepts.
This is why I hope more people would watch the movies from the 1930-70s, and not just the "hits", but the underrated stuff from all over the world. Something to draw inspiration from perhaps.
|
|
