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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 11, 2019 19:15:26 GMT
If you don`t consider CGI and special effects what would you say is the biggest difference between lets say movies from the 1930s and movies made in this decade?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 11, 2019 19:19:13 GMT
The acting style, actors used to use "theater style" acting in older movies.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Nov 11, 2019 19:33:08 GMT
The acting style, actors used to use "theater style" acting in older movies. This is very obvious whenever watching the original King Kong.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 11, 2019 19:56:16 GMT
Movies were much more tame in the 1930s. Especially noticeable is the kissing.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 11, 2019 20:04:28 GMT
If you don`t consider CGI and special effects what would you say is the biggest difference between lets say movies from the 1930s and movies made in this decade? They had actual plots and dialogue, They were not largely clones of the last big hit movie. Many were based on works of fiction that were familiar to the audiences of the day. It was much easier to tell who was who in a story because the actors themselves had individual looks and personas. The actors were trained in multiple skills and were not chosen for a part merely for being "hot". Many of the actors could (and did) play multiple types of roles successfully.
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 11, 2019 20:28:13 GMT
If you mean the 1930s then the way everyone seems to have no color in their cheeks compared to today.  I would say the acting style is the most noticeable. They spoke very loudly in the early talkies. I don't have a problem with it, but it is the most distinguishing feature especially in US films. The loss of distinctive voices is what it most discernible now since they have gone so far away from a theatrical style that most actors seem to have similar voices with no intensity at all. They would suck at radio. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 11, 2019 21:24:02 GMT
Better music composers in older times.
I don't this is remotely debatable.
Musicals for example.
Love it or hate it the Wizard of Oz had catchy tunes fam
Munchkins: Follow the yellow brick road
follow follow follow follow
follow the yellow brick road.
We're off to the see the Wizard,
the wonderful Wizard of Oz!
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 11, 2019 21:32:13 GMT
Better music composers in older times. I don't this is remotely debatable. Musicals for example. Love it or hate it the Wizard of Oz had catchy tunes fam Munchkins: Follow the yellow brick road follow follow follow follow follow the yellow brick road. We're off to the see the Wizard, the wonderful Wizard of Oz! That is actually one I completely disagree with as far as personal preference goes. I much prefer the best of modern movie scores to that of classic era movie scores. I like classic era films, but the scores rarely leave any impression on me. If you are talking about actual songs in musicals then I completely agree though.
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Post by vegalyra on Nov 11, 2019 21:37:36 GMT
From a technical standpoint, shots were typically much longer and many of the films had more dialogue (outside of maybe compared to a Tarantino film).
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 11, 2019 21:44:59 GMT
That is actually one I completely disagree with as far as personal preference goes. I much prefer the best of modern movie scores to that of classic era movie scores. I like classic era films, but the scores rarely leave any impression on me. If you are talking about actual songs in musicals then I completely agree though. Bernard Hermann vs Hans Zimmer?
come on no contest
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 11, 2019 21:48:10 GMT
That is actually one I completely disagree with as far as personal preference goes. I much prefer the best of modern movie scores to that of classic era movie scores. I like classic era films, but the scores rarely leave any impression on me. If you are talking about actual songs in musicals then I completely agree though. Bernard Hermann vs Hans Zimmer?
come on no contest
Hans Zimmer and it isn't even close for me. Ennio Morricone and Jerry Goldsmith are when scores started to become much more memorable imo. Bernard Herrmann is really one of the few that stood out in the classic era. Movie scores started to become much more inventive in the 1960s.
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 11, 2019 21:55:48 GMT
Hans Zimmer and it isn't even close for me. Ennio Morricone and Jerry Goldsmith are when scores started to become much more memorable to me. Morricone and Goldsmith are far better than Zimmer.
Zimmer specializes in elevator muzak for movies. He could probably compose a decent tune if he wanted to, but he prefers the elevator music approach and he has influenced other composers like Williams in the last Star Wars.
The score of Spartacus vs Gladiator. No contest. It is supposed to be emotionally impactful not make one think about what is on sale in aisle 7.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 11, 2019 22:00:00 GMT
Hans Zimmer and it isn't even close for me. Ennio Morricone and Jerry Goldsmith are when scores started to become much more memorable to me. Morricone and Goldsmith are far better than Zimmer.
Zimmer specializes in elevator muzak for movies. He could probably compose a decent tune if he wanted to, but he prefers the elevator music approach and he has influenced other composers like Williams in the last Star Wars.
The score of Spartacus vs Gladiator. No contest. It is supposed to be emotionally impactful not make one think about what is on sale in aisle 7.
I didn't say Morricone and Goldsmith aren't better btw. I'd put both of them up there with Zimmer. Hans Zimmer takes inspiration from both of them in many ways. You can say I have bad taste or whatever, but I don't even remotely agree that Spartacus has a better score than Gladiator. The score for Gladiator is intensely emotional imo. With that being said, Spartacus does have a terrific score. If you pitted the scores for The Mission or Under Fire against Gladiator that would be a lot closer.
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Post by leroybrown2 on Nov 11, 2019 22:05:05 GMT
The acting style, actors used to use "theater style" acting in older movies. Well actually most people involved in old movies has some kind of theater background. As such they know how a play or a screenplay should work out properly. They know it's about the characters not the event.
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 11, 2019 22:07:34 GMT
I didn't say Morricone and Goldsmith aren't better btw. I'd put both of them up there with Zimmer. You can say I have bad taste or whatever, but I don't even remotely agree that Spartacus has a better score than Gladiator. His score for the Simpsons was surprisingly unZimmer-like--I'll give him credit for that, but his regular style is devoid of leitmotif and relies on discordant harmonies which lack the emotional impact of traditional scores. Maybe he isn't inspired by the lousy film stories he has to work with.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 11, 2019 22:08:35 GMT
I didn't say Morricone and Goldsmith aren't better btw. I'd put both of them up there with Zimmer. You can say I have bad taste or whatever, but I don't even remotely agree that Spartacus has a better score than Gladiator. His score for the Simpsons was surprisingly unZimmer-like--I'll give him credit for that, but his regular style is devoid of leitmotif and relies on discordant harmonies which lack the emotional impact of traditional scores. Maybe he isn't inspired by the lousy film stories he has to work with.
The way you are just disregarding my taste because you disagree shows a complete lack of respect. It is pointless discussing things with somebody like you.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 11, 2019 22:24:35 GMT
The acting style, actors used to use "theater style" acting in older movies. In the earliest days of sound films they were also restricted in their moving around because of microphone limitations. At least people spoke more distinctly than they do in more recent films. It's like they don't care whether the meager dialogue can be heard or not. The music often drowns out the dialogue. The directors need to fix that on both accounts.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Nov 11, 2019 22:25:45 GMT
Writing, acting, originality
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 11, 2019 22:26:40 GMT
This just occurred to me.
Movies made before the 1970s relied more on intellectual response, whereas movies made after the 1970s rely more on visceral response. There are movies made before the 1970s that provoke a visceral response as well, but most of them are not English language movies.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 11, 2019 22:38:32 GMT
Movies were much more tame in the 1930s. Especially noticeable is the kissing. Just noticed this edit ..  
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