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Post by mslo79 on Nov 13, 2019 2:55:56 GMT
General lack of some sort of emotional connection (since I feel that's at the heart of what makes movies tick is whether you get a solid emotional response from a movie or not and old movies tend to largely lack in this dept) as that's what's at the heart of why I think newer movies are so much better than older movies.
that's why I tend to consider the 1960's as the early days of modern movies since that's when things started to shift for the better and by the 1970's or 1980's (maybe 1990's tops) things really hit more modern standards.
but like some mentioned... some of it could be the acting style etc but I don't think that's entirely it even though it's probably a factor.
p.s. I am just going to assume older movies means pre-1960.
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Post by janntosh on Nov 14, 2019 4:51:18 GMT
I find a lot of modern movies tend to lack heart
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Post by gljbradley on Nov 16, 2019 8:13:38 GMT
Filming style, acting style, and technology.
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Post by gljbradley on Nov 16, 2019 8:14:30 GMT
I find a lot of modern movies tend to lack heart THIS. ^
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Post by mortsahlfan on Nov 16, 2019 18:20:46 GMT
General lack of some sort of emotional connection (since I feel that's at the heart of what makes movies tick is whether you get a solid emotional response from a movie or not and old movies tend to largely lack in this dept) as that's what's at the heart of why I think newer movies are so much better than older movies. that's why I tend to consider the 1960's as the early days of modern movies since that's when things started to shift for the better and by the 1970's or 1980's (maybe 1990's tops) things really hit more modern standards. but like some mentioned... some of it could be the acting style etc but I don't think that's entirely it even though it's probably a factor. p.s. I am just going to assume older movies means pre-1960. I was considering 1930-70s
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Post by ellynmacg on Nov 16, 2019 21:19:36 GMT
I could say that I generally prefer movies released before 1960 to those released later, but then that would leave out some of my favorite series/franchises: Star Wars and Star Trek (in order of their cinematic releases); Harry Potter; the Ring Trilogy (not to be confused with the Ring Cycle ); plus the Disney Renaissance/launch of Pixar, as well as a bunch of great standalone films, too. I have to say that I like very few films of the 1970's...until 1977 and the release of the first Star Wars (later known as Episode IV: A New Hope). That one little movie, that had to struggle to get its completion money, changed everything. But getting back to the 1930's (I'm not even considering the silents because that's a whole other universe), there is another reason for the seeming theatricality of the acting style besides the restrictions of the stationary microphones and cameras. One needs to take into account how ill-prepared the studios were for actors to need to speak. Many of the biggest stars of the twenties and earlier just couldn't cut it...so the studio reps went to Broadway and hired a bunch of stage actors...hence their sometimes overly-dramatic delivery.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 16, 2019 21:29:16 GMT
Pacing. Watch something like Shadow of a Doubt and marvel at how quickly the plot proper swings into action, without sacrificing foreshadowing and character nuance. Those older films ticked along like a well-oiled machine, making the plot pacing of many a modern-era film creak by comparison.
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Post by ellynmacg on Nov 17, 2019 3:50:16 GMT
One less pleasant thing I notice about the older films--which continues to be true up until, I think, about the early nineties--is how much more the characters smoked. They probably drank a lot more, too, but for some reason, I find the constant use of ciggies, pipes, etc. more jarring. My gosh, it seems like every couple of minutes, somebody (not just male, but female, too) would light up. One darkly amusing note to this: bad girls smoked more than good ones, and a dead giveaway for the naughty girls is the way they usually exhaled the smoke: through their nostrils. When nice (or nice r) girls smoked, they usually exhaled through their mouths.
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Post by ellynmacg on Nov 17, 2019 3:58:20 GMT
Pacing. Watch something like Shadow of a Doubt and marvel at how quickly the plot proper swings into action, without sacrificing foreshadowing and character nuance. Those older films ticked along like a well-oiled machine, making the plot pacing of many a modern-era film creak by comparison. You are so right. Part of the reason for their brisk pacing may have been that older movies, on the average, tended to be shorter. Oh, sure, you had the occasional epic, e.g., Gone With the Wind--but for the most part, they not only zipped along, they finished up faster. And (as my husband just pointed out to me), starting in 1934, the Code was being enforced, which meant they had to get on with plot and character development, since they weren't allowed to spend time on gratuitous sex or gore, or pad the dialogue with endless profanity.
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Post by mslo79 on Nov 17, 2019 4:42:13 GMT
mortsahlfanMaybe I am missing something, but why did you respond to me with that? because what you quoted of myself was a reply to the general topic/OP, not limited to 30's through the 70's.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Nov 17, 2019 13:40:07 GMT
mortsahlfan Maybe I am missing something, but why did you respond to me with that? because what you quoted of myself was a reply to the general topic/OP, not limited to 30's through the 70's. Because it seems you didn't read it.
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Post by koskiewicz on Nov 17, 2019 19:06:19 GMT
B&W vs Color
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 17, 2019 22:10:18 GMT
I was thinking about stuff that is not obvious
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Post by mslo79 on Nov 19, 2019 9:08:52 GMT
mortsahlfanRead what? ; because if your referring to the OP's original topic it specifically says... "what would you say is the biggest difference between lets say movies from the 1930s and movies made in this decade?" ; which means what's the biggest difference between movies made from 1930's vs 2010's.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 19, 2019 9:22:34 GMT
mortsahlfan Read what? ; because if your referring to the OP's original topic it specifically says... "what would you say is the biggest difference between lets say movies from the 1930s and movies made in this decade?" ; which means what's the biggest difference between movies made from 1930's vs 2010's. Yes that is what i meant.
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Post by mslo79 on Nov 19, 2019 9:35:51 GMT
Feologild OakesSo now that you further confirmed what I said... I am still waiting for what mortsahlfan meant by "Because it seems you didn't read it." ? because unless I missed something I still don't get why he replied to me with his 1930's through the 1970's comment.
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