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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Nov 16, 2019 5:41:33 GMT
Seeing Ryan Shazier on the sidelines after the scrum reminded me of something: the dude was making a football play and nearly lost the ability to walk because of it. And while pretty much everyone was saddened by it, no one was really deterred from watching football by it. And I can safely say that most of you probably don't think about it at all or find what happened makes watching this sport a little more difficult, knowing just what the players are putting on the line for your entertainment.
Basically you people are ok with the violence as long as it's a football play. If a safety collides with a wide receiver and inadvertently hits him square on the crown of the helmet and knocks him out or lands on him funny and fractures his leg, knocking him out for the rest of the season, you're fine with it since it's part of the game... even though you're ignoring the fact that it could've ended much worse.
This is like people who get upset when someone gets sucker punched in boxing or MMA. You're upset because it isn't sporting. Not because it's violent.
And now for you people who are saying criminal charges should be pressed against Garrett: if he had thrown the helmet down and just punched Rudolph in the face, would you have been saying the same shit? Not likely.
Case closed.
/discussion
*mic drop*
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Post by stickman38 on Nov 16, 2019 15:47:02 GMT
And your point is?
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 16, 2019 16:04:45 GMT
Yeah, not sure what the fuck that was supposed to be, what case you're closing, or why your 'mic-dropping.' I don't think I detect any point being made of any consequence in all of that.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 16, 2019 16:05:36 GMT
If you watch it, Garrett hits Rudolph with the back of the helmet. Where there's a lot of padding. What do you think would have happened if Garrett, all 6'4" and 272 lbs, had hit Rudolph with the hard shell of the helmet? Think he would have walker off the field on his own power? Myles Garret could have killed Mason Rudolph.
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Nov 16, 2019 16:49:11 GMT
I thought I made it pretty clear what my point was but I guess not. What I’m saying is you people treat the violence that occurs during football like it’s nothing. You’re not bothered by the fact that in this sport people are putting themselves at great risk by playing. But when there’s violence that isn’t “part of the game” you people take great issue with it. |
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Post by stickman38 on Nov 16, 2019 16:50:01 GMT
Yeah, not sure what the fuck that was supposed to be, what case you're closing, or why your 'mic-dropping.' I don't think I detect any point being made of any consequence in all of that.
I think what he's trying to say is that we should feel shame for not getting upset when it's a punch. But when it's a helmet, we get in a big mess over it.
Not sure though... Rocketman will need to write 2 or 3 more paragraphs to explain it.
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Post by stickman38 on Nov 16, 2019 16:57:51 GMT
I thought I made it pretty clear what my point was but I guess not. What I’m saying is you people treat the violence that occurs during football like it’s nothing. You’re not bothered by the fact that in this sport people are putting themselves at great risk by playing. But when there’s violence that isn’t “part of the game” you people take great issue with it.
Ohhhhh.... okay.
I see what you mean, well....
There is a risk to playing a contact sport. The NFL is taking steps to try to reduce serious injuries that happen in football and I do agree with it. But anytime you're playing a contact sport there is a chance you could get injured, however, the part of the game where one player loses it and attacks another player should never happen and that's probably why we get into a bigger fuss over it.
So, are you saying we should stop watching football or something? Not likely to happen....
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 16, 2019 17:11:36 GMT
I thought I made it pretty clear what my point was but I guess not. What I’m saying is you people treat the violence that occurs during football like it’s nothing. You’re not bothered by the fact that in this sport people are putting themselves at great risk by playing. But when there’s violence that isn’t “part of the game” you people take great issue with it. You don't think what Garrett did was above and beyond normal football violence? I've never seen it before. Like I said in my post, if he had hit Rudolph with any other pat of that helmet, he would be in a world of shit.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Nov 16, 2019 19:34:23 GMT
I thought I made it pretty clear what my point was but I guess not. What I’m saying is you people treat the violence that occurs during football like it’s nothing. You’re not bothered by the fact that in this sport people are putting themselves at great risk by playing. But when there’s violence that isn’t “part of the game” you people take great issue with it. It bothers me. Football is a guilty pleasure. The reason why we are more bothered by the Garret/Rudolph incident is because the helmet, the thing that is supposed to protect a player, should not be used as a weapon.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 16, 2019 21:32:04 GMT
I thought I made it pretty clear what my point was but I guess not. What I’m saying is you people treat the violence that occurs during football like it’s nothing. You’re not bothered by the fact that in this sport people are putting themselves at great risk by playing. But when there’s violence that isn’t “part of the game” you people take great issue with it. It's not like it's nothing. It's a violent sport and everyone knows that. Players know that they take a risk when they take the field and everyone assumes that risk. They don't assume the risk of getting smashed in the bare head with a blunt force object after a play is over. Just as boxers assume the risk that taking punches to the head and the body entail, but if a guy pulled out a machete and stabbed someone in the chest then that's a different story. We are saying the same thing here, but you 'dropped the mic' as if you made some point that everyone in the world didn't already know and made some great insight, and I just don't understand how you could be so pleased with yourself for saying absolutely nothing. |
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Nov 17, 2019 4:09:56 GMT
I thought I made it pretty clear what my point was but I guess not. What I’m saying is you people treat the violence that occurs during football like it’s nothing. You’re not bothered by the fact that in this sport people are putting themselves at great risk by playing. But when there’s violence that isn’t “part of the game” you people take great issue with it. It's not like it's nothing. It's a violent sport and everyone knows that. Players know that they take a risk when they take the field and everyone assumes that risk. They don't assume the risk of getting smashed in the bare head with a blunt force object after a play is over. Just as boxers assume the risk that taking punches to the head and the body entail, but if a guy pulled out a machete and stabbed someone in the chest then that's a different story. We are saying the same thing here, but you 'dropped the mic' as if you made some point that everyone in the world didn't already know and made some great insight, and I just don't understand how you could be so pleased with yourself for saying absolutely nothing. Gonna be honest with you, I wrote my OP while drunk. |
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Nov 17, 2019 4:14:32 GMT
I thought I made it pretty clear what my point was but I guess not. What I’m saying is you people treat the violence that occurs during football like it’s nothing. You’re not bothered by the fact that in this sport people are putting themselves at great risk by playing. But when there’s violence that isn’t “part of the game” you people take great issue with it. It's not like it's nothing. It's a violent sport and everyone knows that. Players know that they take a risk when they take the field and everyone assumes that risk. They don't assume the risk of getting smashed in the bare head with a blunt force object after a play is over. Just as boxers assume the risk that taking punches to the head and the body entail, but if a guy pulled out a machete and stabbed someone in the chest then that's a different story. We are saying the same thing here, but you 'dropped the mic' as if you made some point that everyone in the world didn't already know and made some great insight, and I just don't understand how you could be so pleased with yourself for saying absolutely nothing. Also, for what it’s worth, my OP was an attempt to remind the soft little cunts on here who are calling for Myles Garrett’s head that they watch a sport where far more violent thing occur during the game. That was the point. And you missed it, chum. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 17, 2019 4:28:19 GMT
It's not like it's nothing. It's a violent sport and everyone knows that. Players know that they take a risk when they take the field and everyone assumes that risk. They don't assume the risk of getting smashed in the bare head with a blunt force object after a play is over. Just as boxers assume the risk that taking punches to the head and the body entail, but if a guy pulled out a machete and stabbed someone in the chest then that's a different story. We are saying the same thing here, but you 'dropped the mic' as if you made some point that everyone in the world didn't already know and made some great insight, and I just don't understand how you could be so pleased with yourself for saying absolutely nothing. Also, for what it’s worth, my OP was an attempt to remind the soft little cunts on here who are calling for Myles Garrett’s head that they watch a sport where far more violent thing occur during the game. That was the point. And you missed it, chum. If the point was that the game is already violent normally, it's a point that doesn't need to be made. If the point is, as you say here, that the game is more violent than what happened with Myles Garret, then the point is wrong. |
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Nov 17, 2019 4:48:19 GMT
Also, for what it’s worth, my OP was an attempt to remind the soft little cunts on here who are calling for Myles Garrett’s head that they watch a sport where far more violent thing occur during the game. That was the point. And you missed it, chum. If the point was that the game is already violent normally, it's a point that doesn't need to be made. If the point is, as you say here, that the game is more violent than what happened with Myles Garret, then the point is wrong.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 17, 2019 4:50:17 GMT
If the point was that the game is already violent normally, it's a point that doesn't need to be made. If the point is, as you say here, that the game is more violent than what happened with Myles Garret, then the point is wrong. Cool man. See every post above this one for a response to this point. |
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Nov 17, 2019 4:50:31 GMT
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Nov 17, 2019 4:52:33 GMT
Cool man. See every post above this one for a response to this point. All they point out is the fact that *if* Myles Garrett hit him with a different spot of the helmet, then Rudolph would've been killed. And that's true. But it doesn't make what happened anymore violent than just playing the game. The issue isn't with the violence of the situation but the fact that it happened when it wasn't supposed to.
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 17, 2019 5:14:22 GMT
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 17, 2019 6:46:59 GMT
Cool man. See every post above this one for a response to this point. All they point out is the fact that *if* Myles Garrett hit him with a different spot of the helmet, then Rudolph would've been killed. And that's true. But it doesn't make what happened anymore violent than just playing the game. The issue isn't with the violence of the situation but the fact that it happened when it wasn't supposed to. Ironic that you're making posts deriding the violence of football and your signature is what Tex Watson said when he entered the the Tate house to butcher everyone
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Post by WarrenPeace on Nov 17, 2019 7:32:22 GMT
All they point out is the fact that *if* Myles Garrett hit him with a different spot of the helmet, then Rudolph would've been killed. And that's true. But it doesn't make what happened anymore violent than just playing the game. The issue isn't with the violence of the situation but the fact that it happened when it wasn't supposed to. Ironic that you're making posts deriding the violence of football and your signature is what Tex Watson said when he entered the the Tate house to butcher everyone
Someone has some splaining to do.
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