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Post by bud47 on Nov 29, 2019 17:21:50 GMT
Yes, I love the animated series. I became a fan as a child because of that series. The Fox-Men movies never came close to realizing that same potential. The MCU has it's fair share of maturity. If you can't see even some of that, you're watching it with very biased and closed eyes.
I don't know how many times I have to say this to you, but not every comic book film needs to be like Logan or DOFP. Not every comic book I read was dark like that when I was growing up. I have a stack of Avengers comics from the 80s. Many were light and action packed. Watching the MCU films is like watching THOSE comic books come to life.
Constant darkness and serious maturity is for someone like you. In that case, go ahead and get comfy in your dark cellar and enjoy Joker. That's your cup of tea. But there is a wide variety of source material out there. The MCU just chooses to adapt one type over another. The type that appeals to a wider audience that also enables a greater level of success. If they had taken the Fox route, it would have led to an early grave.
And for the record, I never said I hated the X-Men films. I just thought they could have done so much more with the property. 20 years and they never seemed to move past the level of X2.
I honestly don't know why you came back here. Did you expect things to change? Strange how all of the trolls showed back up at once (summers8 and you at the same time, hmmm).
We are on a post about Endgame revisited and Endgame never reached the level of DOFP? How do you recon that? We have to watch Xavier from DOFP to remind ourselves fat thor is just a child's thing and it is not the way to handle depression. We have to watch Magneto'speech and deal with human politics in DOFP to remind ourselves not every superhero final acts of comic movies have to have big battle cgi that is more of an animation. X-Men movies never reached the depth of TAS but Endgame has never reached the depth of an awesome X-men movie. Besides, TAS is a TV series. This doesn't even deserve a response. It's just the same mindless gibberish from you.
However, it is nice to see you finally admit that the Fox-Men movies have never lived up to their full potential.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 29, 2019 23:30:22 GMT
hey bud, dont you like x-men TAS series? How can a kids show have more depth and nuance than an MCU movie like endgame? A lot of people who have been rewatching it on Disney+ didn't realize how well it stands up because unlike MCU, the show was made for kids but in a mature way
Yes, I love the animated series. I became a fan as a child because of that series. The Fox-Men movies never came close to realizing that same potential. The MCU has it's fair share of maturity. If you can't see even some of that, you're watching it with very biased and closed eyes.
I don't know how many times I have to say this to you, but not every comic book film needs to be like Logan or DOFP. Not every comic book I read was dark like that when I was growing up. I have a stack of Avengers comics from the 80s. Many were light and action packed. Watching the MCU films is like watching THOSE comic books come to life.
Constant darkness and serious maturity is for someone like you. In that case, go ahead and get comfy in your dark cellar and enjoy Joker. That's your cup of tea. But there is a wide variety of source material out there. The MCU just chooses to adapt one type over another. The type that appeals to a wider audience that also enables a greater level of success. If they had taken the Fox route, it would have led to an early grave.
And for the record, I never said I hated the X-Men films. I just thought they could have done so much more with the property. 20 years and they never seemed to move past the level of X2.
I honestly don't know why you came back here. Did you expect things to change? Strange how all of the trolls showed back up at once (summers8 and you at the same time, hmmm).
No.one is saying keep them all dark. We had origins, deadpool 1 and 2, Fantastic 4 part 1 and 2, all which where fun light hearted movies. It was a great variety mixed in with the serious stuff like The Wolverine. Not the same thing weve had for the last 10 years from marvel stud10s
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 29, 2019 23:33:47 GMT
Yes, I love the animated series. I became a fan as a child because of that series. The Fox-Men movies never came close to realizing that same potential. The MCU has it's fair share of maturity. If you can't see even some of that, you're watching it with very biased and closed eyes.
I don't know how many times I have to say this to you, but not every comic book film needs to be like Logan or DOFP. Not every comic book I read was dark like that when I was growing up. I have a stack of Avengers comics from the 80s. Many were light and action packed. Watching the MCU films is like watching THOSE comic books come to life.
Constant darkness and serious maturity is for someone like you. In that case, go ahead and get comfy in your dark cellar and enjoy Joker. That's your cup of tea. But there is a wide variety of source material out there. The MCU just chooses to adapt one type over another. The type that appeals to a wider audience that also enables a greater level of success. If they had taken the Fox route, it would have led to an early grave.
And for the record, I never said I hated the X-Men films. I just thought they could have done so much more with the property. 20 years and they never seemed to move past the level of X2.
I honestly don't know why you came back here. Did you expect things to change? Strange how all of the trolls showed back up at once (summers8 and you at the same time, hmmm).
No.one is saying keep them all dark. We had origins, deadpool 1 and 2, Fantastic 4 part 1 and 2, all which where fun light hearted movies. It was a great variety mixed in with the serious stuff like The Wolverine. Not the same thing weve had for the last 10 years from marvel stud10s - X-Men Origins: Wolverine-Lighthearted
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Post by bud47 on Nov 30, 2019 0:29:02 GMT
Yes, I love the animated series. I became a fan as a child because of that series. The Fox-Men movies never came close to realizing that same potential. The MCU has it's fair share of maturity. If you can't see even some of that, you're watching it with very biased and closed eyes.
I don't know how many times I have to say this to you, but not every comic book film needs to be like Logan or DOFP. Not every comic book I read was dark like that when I was growing up. I have a stack of Avengers comics from the 80s. Many were light and action packed. Watching the MCU films is like watching THOSE comic books come to life.
Constant darkness and serious maturity is for someone like you. In that case, go ahead and get comfy in your dark cellar and enjoy Joker. That's your cup of tea. But there is a wide variety of source material out there. The MCU just chooses to adapt one type over another. The type that appeals to a wider audience that also enables a greater level of success. If they had taken the Fox route, it would have led to an early grave.
And for the record, I never said I hated the X-Men films. I just thought they could have done so much more with the property. 20 years and they never seemed to move past the level of X2.
I honestly don't know why you came back here. Did you expect things to change? Strange how all of the trolls showed back up at once (summers8 and you at the same time, hmmm).
No.one is saying keep them all dark. We had origins, deadpool 1 and 2, Fantastic 4 part 1 and 2, all which where fun light hearted movies. It was a great variety mixed in with the serious stuff like The Wolverine. Not the same thing weve had for the last 10 years from marvel stud10s As always, it seems like your problem is with the studio, not the films. Anyone that is ok with the Fantastic Four films or Origins Wolverine, which at best are below the worst MCU films, clearly isn't judging with an unbiased point of view. If you don't want to take my word for it, then take Fox's. They spent 6 films trying to erase Origins Wolverine from existence and the lackluster Fantastic Four films resulted in a reboot, which is considered one of the worst comic book films ever made. Both of these led to the eventual demise of your beloved Fox studio. I mean come on. You want to support these types of films instead of giving any credit to the MCU? That's your choice I guess...
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Post by thenolan on Nov 30, 2019 6:56:46 GMT
No.one is saying keep them all dark. We had origins, deadpool 1 and 2, Fantastic 4 part 1 and 2, all which where fun light hearted movies. It was a great variety mixed in with the serious stuff like The Wolverine. Not the same thing weve had for the last 10 years from marvel stud10s As always, it seems like your problem is with the studio, not the films. Anyone that is ok with the Fantastic Four films or Origins Wolverine, which at best are below the worst MCU films, clearly isn't judging with an unbiased point of view. If you don't want to take my word for it, then take Fox's. They spent 6 films trying to erase Origins Wolverine from existence and the lackluster Fantastic Four films resulted in a reboot, which is considered one of the worst comic book films ever made. Both of these led to the eventual demise of your beloved Fox studio. I mean come on. You want to support these types of films instead of giving any credit to the MCU? That's your choice I guess... Half of the fox movies don't make us want to puke at how the genre is getting mocked. 95% of MCU makes us want to puke. MCU never made a great grown up movie. Fox did on occasions.
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Post by Groovy Rachel on Nov 30, 2019 15:27:05 GMT
As always, it seems like your problem is with the studio, not the films. Anyone that is ok with the Fantastic Four films or Origins Wolverine, which at best are below the worst MCU films, clearly isn't judging with an unbiased point of view. If you don't want to take my word for it, then take Fox's. They spent 6 films trying to erase Origins Wolverine from existence and the lackluster Fantastic Four films resulted in a reboot, which is considered one of the worst comic book films ever made. Both of these led to the eventual demise of your beloved Fox studio. I mean come on. You want to support these types of films instead of giving any credit to the MCU? That's your choice I guess... Half of the fox movies don't make us want to puke at how the genre is getting mocked. 95% of MCU makes us want to puke. MCU never made a great grown up movie. Fox did on occasions. Yeah in between a bunch of garbage maybe.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 2, 2019 5:04:40 GMT
I think Hawkeye's hair pretty much sums up how I feel about this film. I want to like it. I really do, but the more I think about it, the more I'm like "oh Jesus, man what the hell?" It's another film that's probably better than I give it credit for.
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Post by thenolan on Dec 2, 2019 7:40:36 GMT
why is the shit movie not on Netflix for rewatching?
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Post by hobowar on Dec 2, 2019 8:32:24 GMT
why is the shit movie not on Netflix for rewatching? You're upset that you can't rewatch it? You're a greater fan than me, old chap.
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Post by bud47 on Dec 2, 2019 16:09:14 GMT
why is the shit movie not on Netflix for rewatching? It's on Disney+. Did you forget your password?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 16:44:10 GMT
Naturally, such a recent release isn't truly a revisit, though my first home viewing was merely weeks ago (I listened to the blu commentary first thing instead of the movie proper upon release). Most of all for me was how pleasantly surprised how much of a true bookend, genuine landing of the MCU/Infinity Saga EG actually was. I was quite lukewarm about it being another bridging Avengers film, leading to the future which I'm not really jazzed about yet. Alas, just like a film like Harry Potter Deathly Hallows 2 or The Dark Knight Rises, there's no more tension to create - it's all about payoffs & emotional exhalations. Which is why it's not at the top of my list either - those chapters in any book or film simply cannot compete dramatically for my pleasure &/or imagination. Best of all for EG was its performances... it could've been a walk in the park for everyone, & yet they still deliver fine performances to keep me engaged. Really loved Scott Lang & Steve Rogers here... with the post-vanishing societal stuff & seeing about making things 'right' again. While no one else really stood out for me, I'm glad there weren't any letdowns either... even bro Thor works because, well, he failed to save half the f'ing universe. I do prefer IW's greater characterizations, even Thanos in this movie isn't given a whole lot to do. Thanos-CA-IM-Thor on the battlefield is a tremendous MCU payoff in of itself, never mind the fight action or who wins/loses. The Avengers assembling couldn't have been better - they wrote it not as a surprise, rather as a tidal wave of how far we've come. So yeah... still fresh for the masses, a couple years I'll go through my favs monthly re-watches again... see how they've aged & which angles which turn out. My MCU favs: 1. Avengers: Age of Ultron 2. Avengers: Infinity War 3. Captain America: Civil War 4. Avengers: Endgame 5. Captain America: The First Avenger 6. The Avengers 7. Thor: Ragnarok 8. Guardians of the Galaxy 9. Ant-Man 10.Iron Man Winter Solider & Black Panther while very good, simply don't land in my MCU Infinity lane. It's funny, just like comic books, they made it simple to follow along without inhaling every last volume. 10 films makes a nice ideal round number for my MCU enjoyment. Shoutout theandrewkwan.tumblr.com/post/186796882234/my-final-minimalist-poster-series-the-mcu for the poster images. Endgame is really bad for adults to sit through. Really childish movie. You've really become a broken record.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 16:45:18 GMT
why is the shit movie not on Netflix for rewatching? I don't know what's "The shit" movie. Sounds interesting mind providing an IMDb page for it?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Dec 3, 2019 23:08:16 GMT
As always, it seems like your problem is with the studio, not the films. Anyone that is ok with the Fantastic Four films or Origins Wolverine, which at best are below the worst MCU films, clearly isn't judging with an unbiased point of view. If you don't want to take my word for it, then take Fox's. They spent 6 films trying to erase Origins Wolverine from existence and the lackluster Fantastic Four films resulted in a reboot, which is considered one of the worst comic book films ever made. Both of these led to the eventual demise of your beloved Fox studio. I mean come on. You want to support these types of films instead of giving any credit to the MCU? That's your choice I guess... Half of the fox movies don't make us want to puke at how the genre is getting mocked. 95% of MCU makes us want to puke. MCU never made a great grown up movie. Fox did on occasions. Stop lying.
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