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Post by onethreetwo on Dec 1, 2019 13:57:10 GMT
Keep in mind, okay movies aren't good movies. If they were good we'd call them good, not okay. So, in your opinion, are the majority of movies coming out today good or bad?
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Post by doctorstrange on Dec 1, 2019 14:03:26 GMT
Cinema has gotten a lot worse.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 1, 2019 14:18:23 GMT
Keep in mind, okay movies aren't good movies. If they were good we'd call them good, not okay. So, in your opinion, are the majority of movies coming out today good or bad? They aren't bad either. If they were bad we'd call them bad. The reason many people think there are more bad movies made today than a long time ago, is because people haven't seen or even heard of most of the bad movies from the past. I will say that I have seen 75 movies from the year 1970 and more of those are okay or bad than good. Do you know how many movies were released in 1970? IMDB lists 3,569. Only 500 of those have a rating of 7.0 and higher. I would guess there are more bad movies made today, but a large part of the reason is because there are way more movies made today. IMDB lists 11,000 movies in 2017. 1,800 of those have a 7.0 and higher. I hope that was helpful.
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Post by theravenking on Dec 1, 2019 14:25:41 GMT
I don't watch enough current films to be able to answer this question. But maybe the reason I don't watch that many contemporary films is that most of them already look bad from the trailer.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 1, 2019 14:58:10 GMT
It really goes without saying... naturally there are more Thumbs Down movies (i.e. bad movies) than Thumbs Up movies (i.e. good movies) straight up regardless of time period. that's just a hard fact. anyone who says otherwise is pretty blind to the obvious.
because anything average (which are usually okay enough for a viewing but a person has no desire to re-watch them) would ultimately be a Thumbs Down since they are pretty much forgettable. because a true test of a movie for a viewer in my book is whether they want to re-watch that movie from time-to-time as the years pass or not. that separates the movies that are Thumbs Up vs Thumbs Down and in that regard, at least speaking for myself, only about 1 out of every 5 movies (i.e. around 20%) I see over the long term get a Thumbs Up.
but... if you wanted me to look at things in terms of volume of good movies being made to judge things, I think the 1990's to date dominates pre-1990 since 81.7% (i.e. 125/153) of my favorite movies are made from the 1990's to date.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 1, 2019 15:07:04 GMT
More good than bad, including films people might consider okay. It’s one of the more absurd trends of late where people seem to dislike okay movies as bad as actual terrible films.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 1, 2019 15:13:14 GMT
More good than bad, including films people might consider okay. It’s one of the more absurd trends of late where people seem to dislike okay movies as bad as actual terrible films.
Are you honestly suggesting there are more good movies being made than bad movies? ; because look at it this way...
how many movies in total exist? ; roughly hundreds of thousands? ; if so, it's obvious the majority of those are closer to Thumbs Down than Thumbs Up. hence, there are more bad movies than good movies.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 1, 2019 15:14:50 GMT
More good than bad, including films people might consider okay. It’s one of the more absurd trends of late where people seem to dislike okay movies as bad as actual terrible films.
Are you honestly suggesting there are more good movies being made than bad movies? ; because look at it this way...
how many movies in total exist? ; roughly hundreds of thousands? ; if so, it's obvious the majority of those are closer to Thumbs Down than Thumbs Up. hence, there are more bad movies than good movies.
If I don’t find a film annoying or a chore to sit through, I don’t give them a proverbial thumbs down. |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 1, 2019 15:20:59 GMT
Unless you have seen every movie ever made in every year since the beginning its actually impossible to give a proper answer, you can really only say it based on a small number of movies you have seen from the years you have seen movies. And as i wrote in a previous thread According to IMDB since 1900 the average number of movies made world wide is 2577 which means that 306663 movies have been made world wide since 1900 and many of those movies from the silent era are lost. And if you have seen 5000 movies in your life than you have only seen 1.63% of the movies ever made world wide since 1900.
And lets say you watch i don`t know 100 movies made in 2019 out of the 2577 movies than you have only watched 2,5% of all the movies made in 2019 and if you do that every year you would only watch 2,5% of movies made. The point is that nobody really can say if movies are getting better or worse over all they can only say it based on their own personal opinion of the small amount of movies they see.
This is all i will say in this thread,
And yes there is a point to what i wrote, if you think about it you will understand the point i am trying to make.
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Post by ck100 on Dec 1, 2019 15:35:27 GMT
I'd say it more as there are more uninspired movies than inspired movies being made today.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 1, 2019 15:39:41 GMT
politicidal That's why you seem to think there are more good movies than bad, but I can assure you in the big picture there are more Thumbs Down level movies than Thumbs Up for most people. because even if you have 100,000+ movies in existence, there is no way the majority are a Thumbs Up in the big picture. because by your standard it would be pretty easy for a movie to avoid Thumbs Down status in which case it would be much easier to make a argument that there is a possibility the majority of movies being made could be a Thumbs Up. but then again even in this case... I suspect if one could watch ALL movies, there are going to be A LOT (likely the majority) that are forgettable. hence, Thumbs Down. hell, even on a personal level... if I based things by your standard (i.e. the movie is not a chore to sit through (which these types are roughly in my below average or lower range movies) standard) then a high percentage (as in at least 8 out of every 10 movies I have seen(i.e. 80%+)) of what I have seen would be a Thumbs Up. but to play a bit more inline with what Feologild Oakes is basically getting at, looking at all movies ever made we have only seen a really small percentage which makes it easier for things to play into Thumbs Up status and even then I would say there are more Thumbs Down movies than Thumbs Up. but factoring in ALL movies ever made, it's pretty safe to say there are more bad than good when you cut through the BS (because there are A LOT of generic movies and there is no way in hell most of those are getting a Thumbs Up in my mind) and give a simple answer. Feologild Oakes I see your point but one can reason out there is more bad than good movies as a whole. because most people don't watch the complete no name stuff is all as if you count that, which you would have to if you look at ALL movies, it's pretty obvious there are more Thumbs Down movies than Thumbs Up. I can't really see this being disputed. I know the OP asked 'are there more bad or good movies being made today?' but I don't really think it matters because totaling up ALL movies ever made it's really one of those things that goes without saying that there are more bad than good. because people tend to largely forget movies that don't stick with them as years pass and I would definitely tend to lump those more forgettable/average-ish types of movies more towards the 'bad movie' category than 'good movie'. hence, most movies are more towards bad than good if you got to split things into a Thumbs Down vs Thumbs Up type of thing.
but I guess if one wanted to... they might attempt to split things into two categories, say 'modern movies' and 'old days', and see which has a higher volume of movies that are pretty much Thumbs Down. but I suspect the time periods where a higher volume of movies get made, playing the odds, the more crap that will get made. but on the slip side, due to sheer volume of movies getting made, you might possibly get a little more gems being released. besides... when look at movies as a whole, no one really cares about the volume of average/forgettable (or worse) movies being made as people tend to judge years or decades etc by the volume of good movies being made, not the bad.
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Post by Vits on Dec 1, 2019 15:49:18 GMT
Movies are art, but they're also mass products. That means that the majority will always be less than great. Since more and more movies are produced each year, more and more not-so-great movies are released. However, this is not a bad thing. It means that whenever we see a great movie, it feels more special.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 1, 2019 15:51:53 GMT
Are you honestly suggesting there are more good movies being made than bad movies? ; because look at it this way...
how many movies in total exist? ; roughly hundreds of thousands? ; if so, it's obvious the majority of those are closer to Thumbs Down than Thumbs Up. hence, there are more bad movies than good movies.
If I don’t find a film annoying or a chore to sit through, I don’t give them a proverbial thumbs down. Only good movies get thumbs up from me. An okay movie isn't a good movie, it is just that, an okay movie. The word good is referring to the level of satisfaction. If a movie is just okay, then overall it wasn't a satisfying movie. Just because a movie isn't a chore to sit through, that doesn't make it a satisfying experience for me. It makes it an experience I am indifferent to and indifference is not a good thing when it comes to art and entertainment.
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Post by sjg on Dec 1, 2019 16:03:29 GMT
It's all a matter of taste but i would imagine that there are as many good movies as bad ones being made today. On a scale of 1 to 10 anything around a 6 and above should be considered good in my opinion.
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Post by Marv on Dec 1, 2019 16:17:22 GMT
There has always been more bad movies being made than good. Always
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 17:12:49 GMT
I'd say bad but in a way I appreciate that because it allows me to watch a lot more of the classics.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 1, 2019 17:22:10 GMT
It's all a matter of taste but i would imagine that there are as many good movies as bad ones being made today. On a scale of 1 to 10 anything around a 6 and above should be considered good in my opinion. Exactly how I see it.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Dec 1, 2019 17:32:28 GMT
Probably no more than before. Old Hollywood made a lot of bad movies, we just don’t see them anymore.
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Post by gljbradley on Dec 2, 2019 17:17:39 GMT
Unfortunately, it has gotten really bad.
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Post by amyghost on Dec 2, 2019 17:25:16 GMT
I assume this topic has gotta have a large subjective side, but for what it's worth it's been a long time since there's been much of anything I've been anxious to pay 15 bucks, sit in an uncomfortable seat, and be subjected to sociopaths gabbing and texting throughout the film playing down at the local cineplex.
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