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Post by moonchild on Dec 5, 2019 19:34:06 GMT
C’mon, fair’s fair.  Not yet
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 5, 2019 23:35:36 GMT
Okay, you snarky sonuvibitch. Yeah, Freud asked it. And that's why the heterosexists are so quick to destroy him. You're straight because of the Oedipus Complex. A boy child loves his mother foremost. He views his father as a stranger who wants to possess his mother. He's jealous of her attention. The good father moves in as a role model for his son. This lessens his angst against the father. The father is his leader as a male. The child accepts that. His strong bond for his mother, he came from her womb but he must disconnect himself, becomes a sexual attraction to females. This is how the species propagates itself. This is not rocket science. Prove me wrong. Freud was a genius! I don’t go for all that psychobabble but you are right that we are created this way to produce more humans. Evolution and all that and we can throw in God for those who believe in him. It’s more or less the same answer. But, as Toasty and mslo both stated in their own way, we are rarely asked this question because it’s “the norm”. And I wasn’t being “snarky”. I was just holding a mirror up to the other thread.
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Post by gameboy on Dec 6, 2019 0:21:48 GMT
Okay, you snarky sonuvibitch. Yeah, Freud asked it. And that's why the heterosexists are so quick to destroy him. You're straight because of the Oedipus Complex. A boy child loves his mother foremost. He views his father as a stranger who wants to possess his mother. He's jealous of her attention. The good father moves in as a role model for his son. This lessens his angst against the father. The father is his leader as a male. The child accepts that. His strong bond for his mother, he came from her womb but he must disconnect himself, becomes a sexual attraction to females. This is how the species propagates itself. This is not rocket science. Prove me wrong. Freud was a genius! I don’t go for all that psychobabble but you are right that we are created this way to produce more humans. Evolution and all that and we can throw in God for those who believe in him. It’s more or less the same answer. But, as Toasty and mslo both stated in their own way, we are rarely asked this question because it’s “the norm”. And I wasn’t being “snarky”. I was just holding a mirror up to the other thread. Freud'd theory is so simple, basic and logical. It just explains how sexual attraction develops. It's hardly psychobabble when it takes a short paragraph to explain it.
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Post by hi224 on Dec 6, 2019 0:22:38 GMT
C’mon, fair’s fair. yep.
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 6, 2019 0:29:57 GMT
I don’t go for all that psychobabble but you are right that we are created this way to produce more humans. Evolution and all that and we can throw in God for those who believe in him. It’s more or less the same answer. But, as Toasty and mslo both stated in their own way, we are rarely asked this question because it’s “the norm”. And I wasn’t being “snarky”. I was just holding a mirror up to the other thread. Freud'd theory is so simple, basic and logical. It just explains how sexual attraction develops. It's hardly psychobabble when it takes a short paragraph to explain it. A short burst of babble. 
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Post by gameboy on Dec 6, 2019 0:52:20 GMT
Freud'd theory is so simple, basic and logical. It just explains how sexual attraction develops. It's hardly psychobabble when it takes a short paragraph to explain it. A short burst of babble. Then it should be fairly easy for you to refute it. I'll wait. 
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 6, 2019 1:06:25 GMT
A short burst of babble. Then it should be fairly easy for you to refute it. I'll wait. You forget, GB, I have never won an argument. But I do love how all us straighties seem to have gone through the same set of circumstances. It’s like we’re all following some sort of script.
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Post by gameboy on Dec 6, 2019 1:22:53 GMT
Then it should be fairly easy for you to refute it. I'll wait. You forget, GB, I have never won an argument. But I do love how all us straighties seem to have gone through the same set of circumstances. It’s like we’re all following some sort of script. Well we all had mothers and fathers and most of us know both of them. So we're all scripted. Freud'd theory makes perfect sense to me. That's my point.
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 6, 2019 1:32:10 GMT
You forget, GB, I have never won an argument. But I do love how all us straighties seem to have gone through the same set of circumstances. It’s like we’re all following some sort of script. Well we all had mothers and fathers and most of us know both of them. So we're all scripted. Freud'd theory makes perfect sense to me. That's my point. I agree that it all makes perfect sense to you. After all, you analysed A Ghost Story and came to the logical conclusion that it was a story about a woman with an eating disorder who falls in love with a ghost.
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Post by gameboy on Dec 6, 2019 1:39:17 GMT
Well we all had mothers and fathers and most of us know both of them. So we're all scripted. Freud'd theory makes perfect sense to me. That's my point. I agree that it all makes perfect sense to you. After all, you analysed A Ghost Story and came to the logical conclusion that it was a story about a woman with an eating disorder who falls in love with a ghost. And you were able to rebut my analysis of A Ghost Story. So rebut Freud's theory about the Oedipus Complex.
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 6, 2019 1:50:53 GMT
I agree that it all makes perfect sense to you. After all, you analysed A Ghost Story and came to the logical conclusion that it was a story about a woman with an eating disorder who falls in love with a ghost. And you were able to rebut my analysis of A Ghost Story. So rebut Freud's theory about the Oedipus Complex. To be honest I probably won’t be able to. He was a lot more intelligent than me and put many years of work into the project. The problem with lowly thinkers like me is that we like to see something a bit more concrete than an interpretation of what was found in other people’s subconscious. That said, I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who’s experiences match the theory.
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Post by gameboy on Dec 6, 2019 2:00:49 GMT
And you were able to rebut my analysis of A Ghost Story. So rebut Freud's theory about the Oedipus Complex. To be honest I probably won’t be able to. He was a lot more intelligent than me and put many years of work into the project. The problem with lowly thinkers like me is that we like to see something a bit more concrete than an interpretation of what was found in other people’s subconscious. That said, I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who’s experiences match the theory. Neither of us are psychiatrists. My only point is that you dismissed Freud's Oedipus Complex as "psychobabble". To me it's a simple and genius theory of how heterosexual reproduction is imprinted in the psyche of our species. You weren't neutral on it. You rejected it. So I asked you why?
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 6, 2019 2:10:20 GMT
To be honest I probably won’t be able to. He was a lot more intelligent than me and put many years of work into the project. The problem with lowly thinkers like me is that we like to see something a bit more concrete than an interpretation of what was found in other people’s subconscious. That said, I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who’s experiences match the theory. Neither of us are psychiatrists. My only point is that you dismissed Freud's Oedipus Complex as "psychobabble". To me it's a simple and genius theory of how heterosexual reproduction is imprinted in the psyche of our species. You weren't neutral on it. You rejected it. So I asked you why? Because it struck me as psychobabble. I admit the term was used as a cheap throwaway insult but I have yet to see anything that supports it. Some critics have described psychoanalysis as a religion which is probably why the blanket explanation of heterosexuality doesn’t sit with me. I wonder if rabbits and mice go through the same thing.
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 6, 2019 2:24:38 GMT
To be honest I probably won’t be able to. He was a lot more intelligent than me and put many years of work into the project. The problem with lowly thinkers like me is that we like to see something a bit more concrete than an interpretation of what was found in other people’s subconscious. That said, I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who’s experiences match the theory. Neither of us are psychiatrists. My only point is that you dismissed Freud's Oedipus Complex as "psychobabble". To me it's a simple and genius theory of how heterosexual reproduction is imprinted in the psyche of our species. You weren't neutral on it. You rejected it. So I asked you why? Come to think of it father's in nature to to be distant from their offspring. Probably why we rarely see gay rabbits.
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Post by gameboy on Dec 6, 2019 2:24:44 GMT
Neither of us are psychiatrists. My only point is that you dismissed Freud's Oedipus Complex as "psychobabble". To me it's a simple and genius theory of how heterosexual reproduction is imprinted in the psyche of our species. You weren't neutral on it. You rejected it. So I asked you why? Because it struck me as psychobabble. I admit the term was used as a cheap throwaway insult but I have yet to see anything that supports it. Some critics have described psychoanalysis as a religion which is probably why the blanket explanation of heterosexuality doesn’t sit with me. I wonder if rabbits and mice go through the same thing. Rabbits and mice follow instinct. I'm also pretty sure the father plays no role with the young. Humans are more complex creatures. Common sense supports it. We all know infants are tied to the mother. We all know they're jealous of the mother's attention. There have been studies which support it. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/201802/searching-evidence-the-oedipus-complexI'm just saying as a layman it makes perfect sense to me and I told you why.
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Post by moonchild on Dec 6, 2019 2:30:35 GMT
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 6, 2019 7:02:58 GMT
Okay, you snarky sonuvibitch. Yeah, Freud asked it. And that's why the heterosexists are so quick to destroy him. You're straight because of the Oedipus Complex. A boy child loves his mother foremost. He views his father as a stranger who wants to possess his mother. He's jealous of her attention. The good father moves in as a role model for his son. This lessens his angst against the father. The father is his leader as a male. The child accepts that. His strong bond for his mother, he came from her womb but he must disconnect himself, becomes a sexual attraction to females. This is how the species propagates itself. This is not rocket science. Prove me wrong. Freud was a genius!
You cannot put an absolute on any of this, due to all the different variables within the family dynamic.
Yes, Freud was a genius, but he also had his slip days too. This was one of them.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 6, 2019 7:04:31 GMT
Okay, you snarky sonuvibitch. Yeah, Freud asked it. And that's why the heterosexists are so quick to destroy him. You're straight because of the Oedipus Complex. A boy child loves his mother foremost. He views his father as a stranger who wants to possess his mother. He's jealous of her attention. The good father moves in as a role model for his son. This lessens his angst against the father. The father is his leader as a male. The child accepts that. His strong bond for his mother, he came from her womb but he must disconnect himself, becomes a sexual attraction to females. This is how the species propagates itself. This is not rocket science. Prove me wrong. Freud was a genius! I don’t go for all that psychobabble but you are right that we are created this way to produce more humans. Evolution and all that and we can throw in God for those who believe in him. It’s more or less the same answer. But, as Toasty and mslo both stated in their own way, we are rarely asked this question because it’s “the norm”. And I wasn’t being “snarky”. I was just holding a mirror up to the other thread. It depends on whom is doing the producing and what they produce. I am not human, so I disagree.
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Post by gameboy on Dec 6, 2019 7:09:56 GMT
Okay, you snarky sonuvibitch. Yeah, Freud asked it. And that's why the heterosexists are so quick to destroy him. You're straight because of the Oedipus Complex. A boy child loves his mother foremost. He views his father as a stranger who wants to possess his mother. He's jealous of her attention. The good father moves in as a role model for his son. This lessens his angst against the father. The father is his leader as a male. The child accepts that. His strong bond for his mother, he came from her womb but he must disconnect himself, becomes a sexual attraction to females. This is how the species propagates itself. This is not rocket science. Prove me wrong. Freud was a genius!
You cannot put an absolute on any of this, due to all the different variables within the family dynamic.
Yes, Freud was a genius, but he also had his slip days too. This was one of them.
Toasty, I like you and I consider you a friend. But you've been brainwashed by LGBT hacks and we will never agree on this. But I know why I'm gay and it's in the Oedipus Complex. I have a gift of remembering when I was 2 or 3 three years old and I can look back and see how it worked itself out.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 6, 2019 7:15:08 GMT
You cannot put an absolute on any of this, due to all the different variables within the family dynamic.
Yes, Freud was a genius, but he also had his slip days too. This was one of them.
Toasty, I like you and I consider you a friend. But you've been brainwashed by LGBT hacks and we will never agree on this. But I know why I'm gay and it's in the Oedipus Complex. I have a gift of remembering when I was 2 or 3 three years old and I can look back and see how it worked itself out. How have I been brainwashed Gamey, I even deride the LGBTQI hacks for the most part? If you think you are gay because daddy wasn't there for you, and because of what an intellectual fop, who was very likely on the spectrum disorder chart claims, then it is head shrinking time.
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