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Post by clusium on Apr 21, 2017 1:45:03 GMT
Well, Jehovah's Witnesses don't. Thanks. Guess that goes back to my earlier post on this thread, mentioning that they believe most people remain dead, with the noted exception of the chosen 144,000 JWs (see my Jehovah's Witness vs Druze post on this topic thread).
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Post by captainbryce on Apr 21, 2017 1:49:07 GMT
Some Christians don't believe in the soul either. I have to say (at the risk of committing the no true philosophy) that I would have thought belief in a soul was integral to Christianity. In Biblical Hebrew, the word soul simply meant "living being". It didn't imply some mystical, inner force that resides within a person. And Jesus was thought to have risen and ascended to heaven in bodily form, not just his "soul". The idea that humans "souls" went to heaven without their bodies didn't come from the bible. Those were all later additions.
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Post by captainbryce on Apr 21, 2017 1:51:43 GMT
Well, Jehovah's Witnesses don't. Thanks. Guess that goes back to my earlier post on this thread, mentioning that they believe most people remain dead, with the noted exception of the chosen 144,000 JWs (see my Jehovah's Witness vs Druze post on this topic thread). With respect, that's actually not what they believe. They believe that everyone is resurrected from death to face judgement. 144,000 applies to those who reign in heaven with Christ. The rest of the faithful Christians live in paradise on earth, according to them. The only people who remain dead after final judgment are those judged unrighteous.
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Post by gadreel on Apr 21, 2017 2:25:02 GMT
I have to say (at the risk of committing the no true philosophy) that I would have thought belief in a soul was integral to Christianity. In Biblical Hebrew, the word soul simply meant "living being". It didn't imply some mystical, inner force that resides within a person. And Jesus was thought to have risen and ascended to heaven in bodily form, not just his "soul". The idea that humans "souls" went to heaven without their bodies didn't come from the bible. Those were all later additions. Wow I just kind of assumed it always did, I stand corrected.
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Post by clusium on Apr 21, 2017 2:55:39 GMT
Thanks. Guess that goes back to my earlier post on this thread, mentioning that they believe most people remain dead, with the noted exception of the chosen 144,000 JWs (see my Jehovah's Witness vs Druze post on this topic thread). With respect, that's actually not what they believe. They believe that everyone is resurrected from death to face judgement. 144,000 applies to those who reign in heaven with Christ. The rest of the faithful Christians live in paradise on earth, according to them. The only people who remain dead after final judgment are those judged unrighteous. Okay, thanks for correcting me.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 21, 2017 11:22:58 GMT
Yeah, I heard that Buddhism doesn't believe in the soul either. Yet, they do believe in the afterlife, so what do they believe exists within the person (or creature), if not a soul? Some Christians don't believe in the soul either. Interesting. So are these mostly the Christians who identify as non-denominational or some Christians from any denomination may feel this way?
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Post by captainbryce on Apr 21, 2017 13:31:20 GMT
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 21, 2017 13:33:14 GMT
Buddhism and Hinduism are polar opposite in terms of main philosophy. Hinduism believes in one absolute unchanging self/soul. Buddhism believes that everything keeps changing and that there is no soul. But they are very alike in many cultural practices and both adhere to concept of cycle of rebirth. But in ultimate philosophy they are polar opposites. Hinduism juxtaposes many religions. It's one of the few that I know is polytheistic, where most are monotheistic (though I understand some argue Christianity is not really monotheistic). That is right. Hinduism is a basically a collection of many religions. Belief in cycle of rebirth and ultimately liberation from the cycle of rebirth is central tenet. Some forms of Hinduism are monotheistic, some polytheistic, most pantheistic but ultimately the religion is monist. *Monism is the philosophy of non-duality of soul/consciousness. Hinduism does not believe in one God but one Soul. Though when only one soul exists you can also call that God.
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 28, 2017 4:58:27 GMT
Kiera, I will put a post as I had promised in a short while. That is the post that will describe Jainism's objections to Buddhism. In the meanwhile, I will copy paste a post that you might like that will detail Nyaya school's objections to Buddhism. Unlike popular myth that Advaita school's arguments defeated Buddhism in India, the reality is that it was Nyaya school that had defeated Buddhist scholars in Indian subcontinent. Advaitins only made the final punch. OK, this post I am copy pasting but next one I will write myself (The post detailing Buddhism's refutation by Jainism). The following post was put by user wundermonk on HDF forum on 11th September 2011
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 28, 2017 11:21:17 GMT
Well, Jehovah's Witnesses don't. They believe in the soul. They just don;t think it's separate from the body. It's life. It's more accurate to say they don;t believe the soul is immortal
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Post by captainbryce on Jun 28, 2017 11:52:33 GMT
Well, Jehovah's Witnesses don't. They believe in the soul. They just don;t think it's separate from the body. It's life. It's more accurate to say they don;t believe the soul is immortal Fair enough. I just assume the common usage of the term and how it's defined by most people who believe in it implies that it is some immortal essence that exists apart from the body. That seems to be the common belief. JWs don't subscribe to that.
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Post by The Lost One on Jun 28, 2017 12:28:16 GMT
Kiera, I will put a post as I had promised in a short while. That is the post that will describe Jainism's objections to Buddhism. In the meanwhile, I will copy paste a post that you might like that will detail Nyaya school's objections to Buddhism. Unlike popular myth that Advaita school's arguments defeated Buddhism in India, the reality is that it was Nyaya school that had defeated Buddhist scholars in Indian subcontinent. Advaitins only made the final punch. OK, this post I am copy pasting but next one I will write myself (The post detailing Buddhism's refutation by Jainism). The following post was put by user wundermonk on HDF forum on 11th September 2011 Thanks AJ, fascinating stuff.
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Post by The Lost One on Jun 28, 2017 13:57:06 GMT
In Biblical Hebrew, the word soul simply meant "living being". It didn't imply some mystical, inner force that resides within a person. And Jesus was thought to have risen and ascended to heaven in bodily form, not just his "soul". The idea that humans "souls" went to heaven without their bodies didn't come from the bible. Those were all later additions. Wow I just kind of assumed it always did, I stand corrected. The idea of souls floating off to Heaven whilst the bodies rot owes more to Descartes than traditional Christianity.
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Post by maya55555 on Jun 29, 2017 21:33:18 GMT
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