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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 20, 2017 6:20:58 GMT
There are a couple of MCU actresses who are making delusional claims: www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212469978135664&set=gm.1529532480391549&type=3&theater1st, delusional Cate Blanchett said "Can you believe... it's 2017 and we're talking about the first female villain?" I think Michelle Pfeiffer would disagree with that. 2nd, delusional Brie Larson talks about her role as Captain Marvel "...to be playing the first female [superhero] in a solo movie." Wrong again. That ship already sailed a long time ago with Supergirl in 1984. And the DCEU will also have Wonder Woman coming in June. So Captain Marvel won't be the 1st or even 2nd female superhero in a solo movie.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 6:48:34 GMT
There are a couple of MCU actresses who are making delusional claims: www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212469978135664&set=gm.1529532480391549&type=3&theater1st, delusional Cate Blanchett said "Can you believe... it's 2017 and we're talking about the first female villain?" I think Michelle Pfeiffer would disagree with that. 2nd, delusional Brie Larson talks about her role as Captain Marvel "...to be playing the first female [superhero] in a solo movie." Wrong again. That ship already sailed a long time ago with Supergirl in 1984. And the DCEU will also have Wonder Woman coming in June. So Captain Marvel won't be the 1st or even 2nd female superhero in a solo movie. Maybe they were only talking about the MCU? Otherwise they were only wrong, not delusional.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 7:14:55 GMT
1. Catwoman wasn't exactly what I would call a villain in that movie. Just very unstable and troubled.
2. Not many people know about the 1984 Supergirl. An honest mistake to make.
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Post by miike80 on Apr 20, 2017 7:26:47 GMT
1. Catwoman wasn't exactly what I would call a villain in that movie. Just very unstable and troubled. 2. Not many people know about the 1984 Supergirl. An honest mistake to make. 2. Correct. But still Wonderwoman comes in like 2 months
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 20, 2017 7:30:41 GMT
1. Catwoman wasn't exactly what I would call a villain in that movie. Just very unstable and troubled. 2. Not many people know about the 1984 Supergirl. An honest mistake to make. 1. Even if you don't count Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman as a villain, there's also Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy and Marion Cotillard as Talia al Ghul.
2. Even if she forgot about Supergirl in 1984, the Wonder Woman movie is coming in June this year.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 20, 2017 13:35:57 GMT
There are a couple of MCU actresses who are making delusional claims: www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212469978135664&set=gm.1529532480391549&type=3&theater1st, delusional Cate Blanchett said "Can you believe... it's 2017 and we're talking about the first female villain?" I think Michelle Pfeiffer would disagree with that. 2nd, delusional Brie Larson talks about her role as Captain Marvel "...to be playing the first female [superhero] in a solo movie." Wrong again. That ship already sailed a long time ago with Supergirl in 1984. And the DCEU will also have Wonder Woman coming in June. So Captain Marvel won't be the 1st or even 2nd female superhero in a solo movie. Some additional context.Blanchett
You’re Thor’s first female villain. Was that part of the appeal? Can you believe it? Can you believe we’re having this conversation and it’s 2017 and we’re talking about the first female villain? It’s ridiculous. There’s so much untapped potential villainy in women. It’s really exciting. I think finally it’s beginning to be acknowledged that women and men want to see a diverse array of characters, and that’s race, gender across the sexual spectrum.
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“Aside from the fact that it’s iconic to be part of this, to be playing the first female [lead] in a solo [Marvel] movie, I think for me personally one of the things I’m excited about is the idea of female complexity.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 20, 2017 15:08:36 GMT
When it's in brackets, that means she never actually said that and it's only inferred or assumed by the reader. So my point still stands. They claim they're the 1st when they're not. They're delusional.
It's just a lame marketing strategy by MCU to try to claim they're the 1st because they don't want to admit that they were beaten to it by DC.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 20, 2017 15:26:43 GMT
The Brie Larson quote is something funny considering Wonder Woman comes out this summer though both seem more like mistakes than misdirection.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 20, 2017 15:48:23 GMT
When it's in brackets, that means she never actually said that and it's only inferred or assumed by the reader. So my point still stands. They claim they're the 1st when they're not. They're delusional. It's just a lame marketing strategy by MCU to try to claim they're the 1st because they don't want to admit that they were beaten to it by DC. I understand what the brackets mean, thank you. They also provide additional context for the interviewee's responses.
In the case of Blanchett, the interviewer asks her about the appeal of playing the first female villain in the Thor franchise.
Collider, sloppy as ever, never presents the question(s) they asked Larson however, THEY added the bracketed terms to help clarify the context of her responses.
You're blowing this situation out of proportion. Even if both actors made these statements in the context you infer, their answers would have been the result of ignorance and not any malicious intention to vex or offend the fandom.
In the very worst case scenario, all that can be said is that both actors are simply not very well informed when it comes to the history of CBMs. This is understandable to a degree given that neither actor has any prior experience in the genre or affinity for comic book films and literature. SaveSaveSaveSaveSaveSaveSaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 16:21:01 GMT
When it's in brackets, that means she never actually said that and it's only inferred or assumed by the reader. So my point still stands. They claim they're the 1st when they're not. They're delusional. It's just a lame marketing strategy by MCU to try to claim they're the 1st because they don't want to admit that they were beaten to it by DC. Congratulations. DC also won some Oscars before Marvel. Happy now? I hope you can sleep better at night.
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Post by misstique on Apr 20, 2017 16:36:24 GMT
It's just a lame marketing strategy by MCU to try to claim they're the 1st because they don't want to admit that they were beaten to it by DC. Yes, that truly is what Marvel spend time, money and man-power for! P.S: You might wanna look up the meaning of the word "delusional" on Google.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 18:03:27 GMT
1. Catwoman wasn't exactly what I would call a villain in that movie. Just very unstable and troubled. 2. Not many people know about the 1984 Supergirl. An honest mistake to make. 1. Even if you don't count Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman as a villain, there's also Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy and Marion Cotillard as Talia al Ghul.
2. Even if she forgot about Supergirl in 1984, the Wonder Woman movie is coming in June this year.
1.. Female villains so forgettable I forgot about them! 2. Okay, so Captain Marvel will be the first good superheroine movie, then.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 20, 2017 18:21:07 GMT
When it's in brackets, that means she never actually said that and it's only inferred or assumed by the reader. So my point still stands. They claim they're the 1st when they're not. They're delusional. It's just a lame marketing strategy by MCU to try to claim they're the 1st because they don't want to admit that they were beaten to it by DC. Actually, no. It could also mean it's something she said in a previous sentence that was moved around to provide a better understanding. And the writer didn't feel like transcribing the previous sentence. Ex. "I've never liked celery. I think it just tastes nasty." Becomes: "I think [celery] just tastes nasty. Or it could also mean it's something that was in the question, but the responder didn't actually say it. So the writer put it in to clarify what they were talking about. Ex. Interviewer: "Do you like celery?" Responder: "I think it just tastes nasty." In the article, once again becomes: "I think [celery] just tastes nasty. So, in conclusion, none of what you've posted means they're delusional. That's not what that word means.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 20, 2017 18:31:59 GMT
When it's in brackets, that means she never actually said that and it's only inferred or assumed by the reader. So my point still stands. They claim they're the 1st when they're not. They're delusional. It's just a lame marketing strategy by MCU to try to claim they're the 1st because they don't want to admit that they were beaten to it by DC. Actually, no. It could also mean it's something she said in a previous sentence that was moved around to provide a better understanding. And the writer didn't feel like transcribing the previous sentence. Ex. "I've never liked celery. I think it just tastes nasty." Becomes: "I think [celery] just tastes nasty. Or it could also mean it's something that was in the question, but the responder didn't actually say it. So the writer put it in to clarify what they were talking about. Ex. Interviewer: "Do you like celery?" Responder: "I think it just tastes nasty." In the article, once again becomes: "I think [celery] just tastes nasty. So, in conclusion, none of what you've posted means they're delusional. That's not what that word means. Another dumb excuse by a dumb MCU fan. Nobody says "I think just tastes nasty." They would say either "I think celery just tastes nasty" or "I think it just tastes nasty". In either case, it can be transcribed word-for-word and the reader would know that they were referring to celery (or to something mentioned in a previous question)"
When they say first female villain or first female superhero in a solo movie without qualifying it as within Marvel, then the brackets are only the transcriber's best guess or assumption as to what they said but isn't actually what they said. They didn't qualify it as within Marvel. So they were either delusional or intentionally trying to mislead people.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 20, 2017 18:33:11 GMT
1. Even if you don't count Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman as a villain, there's also Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy and Marion Cotillard as Talia al Ghul.
2. Even if she forgot about Supergirl in 1984, the Wonder Woman movie is coming in June this year.
1.. Female villains so forgettable I forgot about them! 2. Okay, so Captain Marvel will be the first good superheroine movie, then. MCU hasn't made a good movie yet. All of MCU's movies are crappy movies so Captain Marvel will probably be crappy as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 18:34:43 GMT
Actually, no. It could also mean it's something she said in a previous sentence that was moved around to provide a better understanding. And the writer didn't feel like transcribing the previous sentence. Ex. "I've never liked celery. I think it just tastes nasty." Becomes: "I think [celery] just tastes nasty. Or it could also mean it's something that was in the question, but the responder didn't actually say it. So the writer put it in to clarify what they were talking about. Ex. Interviewer: "Do you like celery?" Responder: "I think it just tastes nasty." In the article, once again becomes: "I think [celery] just tastes nasty. So, in conclusion, none of what you've posted means they're delusional. That's not what that word means. Another dumb excuse by a dumb MCU fan. Nobody says "I think just tastes nasty." They would say either "I think celery just tastes nasty" or "I think it just tastes nasty". In either case, it can be transcribed word-for-word and the reader would know that they were referring to celery (or to something mentioned in a previous question)"
When they say first female villain or first female superhero in a solo movie without qualifying it as within Marvel, then the brackets are only the transcriber's best guess or assumption as to what they said but isn't actually what they said. They didn't qualify it as within Marvel. So they were either delusional or intentionally trying to mislead people.
Guess what, Thor: Ragnarok, Guardians Vol. 2, and Spider-Man Homecoming are still going to outgross Wonder Woman and Justice League. Oh, and Captain Marvel will be better than Wonder Woman. You are a flea on a mountain, shouting into the abyss. Nothing you say or do matters.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 20, 2017 18:40:11 GMT
Another dumb excuse by a dumb MCU fan. Nobody says "I think just tastes nasty." They would say either "I think celery just tastes nasty" or "I think it just tastes nasty". In either case, it can be transcribed word-for-word and the reader would know that they were referring to celery (or to something mentioned in a previous question)"
When they say first female villain or first female superhero in a solo movie without qualifying it as within Marvel, then the brackets are only the transcriber's best guess or assumption as to what they said but isn't actually what they said. They didn't qualify it as within Marvel. So they were either delusional or intentionally trying to mislead people.
Guess what, Thor: Ragnarok, Guardians Vol. 2, and Spider-Man Homecoming are still going to outgross Wonder Woman and Justice League. Oh, and Captain Marvel will be better than Wonder Woman. You are a flea on a mountain, shouting into the abyss. Nothing you say or do matters. Nope. Given that both Thor movies so far have been flops, Thor: Ragnarok is also going to be a flop. And Wonder Woman will be much better than Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel will be another MCU flop.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 20, 2017 18:43:04 GMT
Actually, no. It could also mean it's something she said in a previous sentence that was moved around to provide a better understanding. And the writer didn't feel like transcribing the previous sentence. Ex. "I've never liked celery. I think it just tastes nasty." Becomes: "I think [celery] just tastes nasty. Or it could also mean it's something that was in the question, but the responder didn't actually say it. So the writer put it in to clarify what they were talking about. Ex. Interviewer: "Do you like celery?" Responder: "I think it just tastes nasty." In the article, once again becomes: "I think [celery] just tastes nasty. So, in conclusion, none of what you've posted means they're delusional. That's not what that word means. Another dumb excuse by a dumb MCU fan. Nobody says "I think just tastes nasty." They would say either "I think celery just tastes nasty" or "I think it just tastes nasty". In either case, it can be transcribed word-for-word and the reader would know that they were referring to celery (or to something mentioned in a previous question)"
When they say first female villain or first female superhero in a solo movie without qualifying it as within Marvel, then the brackets are only the transcriber's best guess or assumption as to what they said but isn't actually what they said. They didn't qualify it as within Marvel. So they were either delusional or intentionally trying to mislead people.
Lol. You didn't actually read what I wrote, did you? No wonder you're confused. Please look up and read all the words I type. And re-read the quotes with all the context. Thor is specifically mentioned. So yes, it is qualified.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 18:45:14 GMT
Guess what, Thor: Ragnarok, Guardians Vol. 2, and Spider-Man Homecoming are still going to outgross Wonder Woman and Justice League. Oh, and Captain Marvel will be better than Wonder Woman. You are a flea on a mountain, shouting into the abyss. Nothing you say or do matters. Nope. Given that both Thor movies so far have been flops, Thor: Ragnarok is also going to be a flop. And Wonder Woman will be much better than Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel will be another MCU flop. ...Well, you've just proven you don't know how to do math. None of the MCU films have flopped, first of all. Secondly, Thor: The Dark World, wouldn't have been made if Thor 1 did flop. The closest they've ever had to a flop is The Incredible Hulk, but even that one broke even. So, QueenFanUSA, you can take YOUR delusional rantings and leave.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 20, 2017 18:47:02 GMT
Guess what, Thor: Ragnarok, Guardians Vol. 2, and Spider-Man Homecoming are still going to outgross Wonder Woman and Justice League. Oh, and Captain Marvel will be better than Wonder Woman. You are a flea on a mountain, shouting into the abyss. Nothing you say or do matters. Nope. Given that both Thor movies so far have been flops, Thor: Ragnarok is also going to be a flop. And Wonder Woman will be much better than Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel will be another MCU flop. Incorrect: Thor, Budget: $150 Million. Box Office: $449 Million. Thor Dark World, Budget: $170 Million. Box Office: $644 Million. A 15 second google search was all it took. So now the question becomes: Are you a liar or delusional? Hmm, me thinks DC Fan doth protest too much.
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