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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 20, 2019 23:14:40 GMT
All I'm saying is that what is being presented as the ISS is fake. I can't prove there isn't a real one, but the one shown to the public is definitely a fake. See? You wrote all that and I'm sure you're immensely proud of it, but it was for nothing. And all I'm saying is that, as usual, you got sold a bill of goods by a moron on youtube, and now you look like a gullible idiot. Once again. See? You posted another thread and I'm sure you think you tried to help people, but you just failed again. Oh well. The evidence speaks for itself, and there's more on YouTube. I could add a new video every day about how the production crew for the ISS dropped the ball, and I could do it for many days before running out of them. Do you really want me to put a work load on you like that? Don't you have enough responsibility on the Internet just trying to convince people that God doesn't exist?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 23:22:59 GMT
And all I'm saying is that, as usual, you got sold a bill of goods by a moron on youtube, and now you look like a gullible idiot. Once again. See? You posted another thread and I'm sure you think you tried to help people, but you just failed again. Oh well. The evidence speaks for itself, and there's more on YouTube. I could add a new video every day about how the production crew for the ISS dropped the ball, and I could do it for many days before running out of them. I'm sure you could. You could put a veritable river of bullshit out there if you wanted to. It's what you do, after all. Not trying to convince - I've proved it, remember? You just can't understand.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 20, 2019 23:47:00 GMT
The evidence speaks for itself, and there's more on YouTube. I could add a new video every day about how the production crew for the ISS dropped the ball, and I could do it for many days before running out of them. I'm sure you could. You could put a veritable river of bullshit out there if you wanted to. It's what you do, after all. Not trying to convince - I've proved it, remember? You just can't understand. Whatever you have to tell yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 23:50:04 GMT
I'm sure you could. You could put a veritable river of bullshit out there if you wanted to. It's what you do, after all. Not trying to convince - I've proved it, remember? You just can't understand. Whatever you have to tell yourself. Ditto.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 21, 2019 0:54:45 GMT
And all I'm saying is that, as usual, you got sold a bill of goods by a moron on youtube, and now you look like a gullible idiot. Once again. See? You posted another thread and I'm sure you think you tried to help people, but you just failed again. Oh well. The evidence speaks for itself... Not when you don't know the first thing about how digital media works, in which case that "evidence" can "speak for" any theory your imagination can conjure. For those who do understand, that video is nothing more than evidence that visual artifacts exist, which they do, and are quite common on live feeds, which they are. It's like people who see "orbs" in photography and thinks the "evidence" that they're ghosts "speaks for itself;" meanwhile, anyone with a lick of understanding of photography knows such things are backscatter. Of course, light reflecting off dust is much less interesting than ghosts, just like I guess a functional ISS is less interesting than a NASA conspiracy about it.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 21, 2019 1:10:56 GMT
The evidence speaks for itself... Not when you don't know the first thing about how digital media works, in which case that "evidence" can "speak for" any theory your imagination can conjure. For those who do understand, that video is nothing more than evidence that visual artifacts exist, which they do, and are quite common on live feeds, which they are. It's like people who see "orbs" in photography and thinks the "evidence" that they're ghosts "speaks for itself;" meanwhile, anyone with a lick of understanding of photography knows such things are backscatter. Of course, light reflecting off dust is much less interesting than ghosts, just like I guess a functional ISS is less interesting than a NASA conspiracy about it. Dude, I already addressed that on the Politics board thread. I think I put the link to it here somewhere. You'll have a better discussion with me if you avoid being condescending.
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Post by goz on Dec 21, 2019 1:29:03 GMT
Not when you don't know the first thing about how digital media works, in which case that "evidence" can "speak for" any theory your imagination can conjure. For those who do understand, that video is nothing more than evidence that visual artifacts exist, which they do, and are quite common on live feeds, which they are. It's like people who see "orbs" in photography and thinks the "evidence" that they're ghosts "speaks for itself;" meanwhile, anyone with a lick of understanding of photography knows such things are backscatter. Of course, light reflecting off dust is much less interesting than ghosts, just like I guess a functional ISS is less interesting than a NASA conspiracy about it. Dude, I already addressed that on the Politics board thread. I think I put the link to it here somewhere. You'll have a better discussion with me if you avoid being condescending. It is SO hard NOT to be condescending to a proven ill-educated redneck dipshit trailer trash hick whose whole education comes from the dodgy University of YouTube vids made by similar conspiracy theory infused morons.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 21, 2019 2:13:44 GMT
All I'm saying is that what is being presented as the ISS is fake. I can't prove there isn't a real one, but the one shown to the public is definitely a fake. See? You wrote all that and I'm sure you're immensely proud of it, but it was for nothing. How is it that The Government can spray “chemtrails” on us for five or six decades and we have never detected the chemicals or know were it’s made; where they stow the chemical at the airports; etc. Or, how The Government is monkeying with the Moon so its orbit is shifting and that’s what causing global warming. But, The Government cannot put a human being in orbit? I have worked at airports for years, have never seen one chemtrail, but I’ve copious documentation of the space program. You've probably seen them (chemtrails) and didn't know what they were. And I never said anything about the moon's orbit being monkeyed with by the government.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 21, 2019 2:14:52 GMT
Dude, I already addressed that on the Politics board thread. I think I put the link to it here somewhere. You'll have a better discussion with me if you avoid being condescending. It is SO hard NOT to be condescending to a proven ill-educated redneck dipshit trailer trash hick whose whole education comes from the dodgy University of YouTube vids made by similar conspiracy theory infused morons. If it offends you, you can always take yourself to another board.
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Post by goz on Dec 21, 2019 2:33:19 GMT
It is SO hard NOT to be condescending to a proven ill-educated redneck dipshit trailer trash hick whose whole education comes from the dodgy University of YouTube vids made by similar conspiracy theory infused morons. If it offends you, you can always take yourself to another board. Why would I? Your stupidity has amused ( not offended) me for over 15 years!
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 21, 2019 2:42:24 GMT
If it offends you, you can always take yourself to another board. Why would I? Your stupidity has amused ( not offended) me for over 15 years! That's some trick, considering that the first time you and I talked to each other was only about five or six years ago. I joined the IMDb in 2009 and made my first post on RFS in 2012.
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Post by goz on Dec 21, 2019 2:50:01 GMT
Why would I? Your stupidity has amused ( not offended) me for over 15 years! That's some trick, considering that the first time you and I talked to each other was only about five or six years ago. I joined the IMDb in 2009 and made my first post on RFS in 2012. OK, 10. It seems like longer. You are probably right as they didn't invent chemtrails until then.
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Post by Jonesy1 on Dec 21, 2019 11:20:46 GMT
No the context is clearly the gaps between the planets and other celestial bodies. Do you agree that there is no space? I'm still collating, but "clearly" the ISS is a fake. "Clearly?"
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Post by Jonesy1 on Dec 21, 2019 11:26:39 GMT
Who knows? I'm sure one of your YouTube scholars would find some way to explain it away. Would you actually be willing to go into space if it was offered for free? I personally don't have any interest in doing it, but I would think those who believe the whole space/ISS thing is a sham would be curious to see for themselves. I have to wonder why it hasn't been done already. Because it costs a lot of money.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 21, 2019 20:55:51 GMT
Not when you don't know the first thing about how digital media works, in which case that "evidence" can "speak for" any theory your imagination can conjure. For those who do understand, that video is nothing more than evidence that visual artifacts exist, which they do, and are quite common on live feeds, which they are. It's like people who see "orbs" in photography and thinks the "evidence" that they're ghosts "speaks for itself;" meanwhile, anyone with a lick of understanding of photography knows such things are backscatter. Of course, light reflecting off dust is much less interesting than ghosts, just like I guess a functional ISS is less interesting than a NASA conspiracy about it. Dude, I already addressed that on the Politics board thread. I think I put the link to it here somewhere. You'll have a better discussion with me if you avoid being condescending. OK, I read that thread, and you most certainly didn't address that. The last post you made responding to the guy telling you that video was "p-frame duplication errors caused by lossy compression" was to say "Calm yourself. Scroll up. Phludowin asked you a question." That's hardly "addressing" the point. In any case, my point wasn't directed specifically at you, but was a more general point about the nature of evidence. Evidence doesn't "speak for itself" without reason connecting it to whatever it's "speaking" for, and that reason can either be restrained or unrestrained by knowledge. If someone doesn't know anything about something (like how digital media works in this case), then the evidence doesn't/can't "speak for itself" but can speak to whatever they can imagine. It's generally not a good way to get at truth to only have evidence restrained by your imagination.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 21, 2019 20:59:35 GMT
Dude, I already addressed that on the Politics board thread. I think I put the link to it here somewhere. You'll have a better discussion with me if you avoid being condescending. OK, I read that thread, and you most certainly didn't address that. The last post you made responding to the guy telling you that video was "p-frame duplication errors caused by lossy compression" was to say "Calm yourself. Scroll up. Phludowin asked you a question." That's hardly "addressing" the point. In any case, my point wasn't directed specifically at you, but was a more general point about the nature of evidence. Evidence doesn't "speak for itself" without reason connecting it to whatever it's "speaking" for, and that reason can either be restrained or unrestrained by knowledge. If someone doesn't know anything about something (like how digital media works in this case), then the evidence doesn't/can't "speak for itself" but can speak to whatever they can imagine. It's generally not a good way to get at truth to only have evidence restrained by your imagination. I most certainly did address it. In the video he posted the background was lost from the outside of the picture inward. In the video I posted, that's not what happened.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 21, 2019 21:01:09 GMT
I'm still collating, but "clearly" the ISS is a fake. "Clearly?" Have you assigned yourself to me? Are you my shadow now?
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 21, 2019 21:14:40 GMT
OK, I read that thread, and you most certainly didn't address that. The last post you made responding to the guy telling you that video was "p-frame duplication errors caused by lossy compression" was to say "Calm yourself. Scroll up. Phludowin asked you a question." That's hardly "addressing" the point. In any case, my point wasn't directed specifically at you, but was a more general point about the nature of evidence. Evidence doesn't "speak for itself" without reason connecting it to whatever it's "speaking" for, and that reason can either be restrained or unrestrained by knowledge. If someone doesn't know anything about something (like how digital media works in this case), then the evidence doesn't/can't "speak for itself" but can speak to whatever they can imagine. It's generally not a good way to get at truth to only have evidence restrained by your imagination. I most certainly did address it. In the video he posted the background was lost from the outside of the picture inward. In the video I posted, that's not what happened. Yes, then he addressed that saying there were different types of duplication errors. One has backgrounds blurred with moving objects fine (i-frame duplication error) and another has moving objects blurred with backgrounds fine (p-frame duplication error). He then linked you to videos showing p-frame duplication errors that looked like your video: imdb2.freeforums.net/post/3519281/thread He actually taught me something with the p-frame/i-frame error distinction. Your video looked like normal video artifacts to me, but I didn't know they had names for different kinds. I did a quick Google search myself and found this interesting page that explains the differences and actually has a tutorial on how to create interesting effects (intentionally) using these types of errors: forum.glitchet.com/t/tutorial-make-video-glitch-art-how-to-datamosh-in-plain-english/36
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 21, 2019 21:22:17 GMT
I most certainly did address it. In the video he posted the background was lost from the outside of the picture inward. In the video I posted, that's not what happened. Yes, then he addressed that saying there were different types of duplication errors. One has backgrounds blurred with moving objects fine (i-frame duplication error) and another has moving objects blurred with backgrounds fine (p-frame duplication error). He then linked you to videos showing p-frame duplication errors that looked like your video: IMDB2.freeforums.net/post/3519281/thread He actually taught me something with the p-frame/i-frame error distinction. Your video looked like normal video artifacts to me, but I didn't know they had names for different kinds. I did a quick Google search myself and found this interesting page that explains the differences and actually has a tutorial on how to create interesting effects (intentionally) using these types of errors: forum.glitchet.com/t/tutorial-make-video-glitch-art-how-to-datamosh-in-plain-english/36 Yeah, he did, and I didn't buy it. If you want to buy it, go ahead.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 21, 2019 21:28:44 GMT
Yes, then he addressed that saying there were different types of duplication errors. One has backgrounds blurred with moving objects fine (i-frame duplication error) and another has moving objects blurred with backgrounds fine (p-frame duplication error). He then linked you to videos showing p-frame duplication errors that looked like your video: IMDB2.freeforums.net/post/3519281/thread He actually taught me something with the p-frame/i-frame error distinction. Your video looked like normal video artifacts to me, but I didn't know they had names for different kinds. I did a quick Google search myself and found this interesting page that explains the differences and actually has a tutorial on how to create interesting effects (intentionally) using these types of errors: forum.glitchet.com/t/tutorial-make-video-glitch-art-how-to-datamosh-in-plain-english/36Yeah, he did, and I didn't buy it. If you want to buy it, go ahead. What don't you buy? Again, much like viewing the ISS with a telescope, this is something you can do yourself with a video-editing program and a video file. There's nothing to "buy." Plus, he posted examples showing precisely what he described. Did NASA fake that Monster's Inc. video too?
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