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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 28, 2019 22:21:55 GMT
Lmao at the John Wick inclusion. Obviously a ploy to look like “one of the people.”
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 28, 2019 22:23:31 GMT
I said " Seems like they wanted a popular movie to make their list less pretentious". As for the implausible meticulousness, I've been on the internet longer than 5 minutes and I've seen and heard people throw movies onto their list to diversify it. I'd be asking the same question if someone had a list of 9 superhero blockbusters, followed by "Son of Saul" or something. Why do you think people to feel the need to diversify their list? Generally because they don't want their taste to seem too narrow or stereotypical. |
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 28, 2019 22:51:06 GMT
ck100 It's among my favorites this decade (it's within my Top 46 movies of the 2010-2019 time frame (which make up 30.1% of my entire favorite movies in general), which are among my favorite movies in general). but... not Top 10 worthy of the decade for sure. it's almost like Time Magazine threw John Wick in there in a attempt to kiss up to the masses, knowing the rest of their list is probably not even close to the masses choices. lol p.s. for the record... there is no difference between 'favorite' or 'best' for me as they are the same as to me it makes no sense to separate the two as 'favorite' is ones true opinion where as 'best' is false in the sense it tries to 'guess' what others might like etc (which pretty much ends up listing basically the same movies like those critics do with 'Top 100 movies of all-time' etc), it's not honest. Feologild Oakes I totally agree with you! only two on that list (Before Midnight/John Wick) are among my favorite movies in general (i.e. my Top 153 movies) but not Top 10 worthy of the 2010-2019 time frame. but at the same time... who can list ten movies in the 2010-2019 time frame to where most people would agree? ; I suspect that would be somewhat difficult as I would imagine there is a reasonable chance you would disagree with my Top 10-20 movies or so of the decade. but at the same time... I am confident my choices (for say Top 10-20 or so) would be more inline with the wide public than what the Time magazine choices are. like here are my Top 25-ish movies of the 2010's (basically everything I scored a 7-7.5/10 or higher)... 1.Skyfall (2012) - 9/10 -.The American (2010) 3.True Grit (2010) - 8-8.5/10 4.The Descendants (2011) - 8/10 -.Source Code (2011) -.Edge of Darkness (2010) 7.Django Unchained (2012) - 7.5-8/10 -.Young Adult (2011) -.The Book of Eli (2010) -.Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation (2015) -.Men, Women & Children (2014) -.Kill the Irishman (2011) -.Unthinkable (2010) -.London Boulevard (2010) -.Spectre (2015) -.Shot Caller (2017) -.Nebraska (2013) -.Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol (2011) -.Hostiles (2017-2018) -.El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie (2019) -.At Middleton (2013)
22.The Grey (2011-2012) - 7-7.5/10 -.Flight (2012) -.Robot & Frank (2012) -.The Artist and the Model (2012-2013) -.Ex Machina (2015) so while I would assume at least some will disagree etc, I think if one is going to judge someones 'Top movies of the decade' list, the best way to do it is by wide public opinion and the like. so based on that standard... I think it's pretty safe to say my taste in movies are more inline with the common person than what Time's are. hence, my opinion on movies is more valuable to the common person. NOTE: I would have liked Time Magazine to list a bit more than ten movies though as ten movies is a pretty short list as with a bit more you can start to get a better feel of their overall taste. but based strictly on those ten, I think they are pretty disconnected with the common person, and like I mentioned above, I think they just threw John Wick in there in a attempt to kiss up to the common person because pretty much the rest of their list I can't see too many people thinking all that highly of etc.
Exactly!
you spoted exactly what immediately noticed to as it's clearly out of place given the rest of the movies they listed.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Dec 28, 2019 22:52:50 GMT
Lmao at the John Wick inclusion. Obviously a ploy to look like “one of the people.” Or, God forbid, they actually like the movie.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 28, 2019 22:57:16 GMT
Popeye DoyleWhat you say is possible but it's easily plausible that what sdrew13163 and I think about it is true to. personally... I am leaning towards sdrew's line of thinking on this one given the rest of their list, John Wick seems clearly out of place. so it appears to be a attempt on their end to pretend they are "one of the people", like sdrew said.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 28, 2019 23:05:34 GMT
The Lost City of Z is a highly entertaining book... not sure how its film made top 10 of entire decade though, it was good not great.
Of the 10's I landed on my own top 50 all time:
#32 Avengers: Age of Ultron
#43 John Wick
#44 The Perks of Being a Wallflower
Those were after several re-watches & years to marinate. I don't think I'll revisit my 50 until 2030 or so, a la Sight & Sound.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 28, 2019 23:11:00 GMT
I'd much rather see a Worst Movies of the Decade list, those are much more interesting
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 28, 2019 23:14:33 GMT
twothousandonemark Correct me if I am wrong, but are you saying your not going to re-watch your Top 50 or so movies until around the year 2030? if so, there is no way I would wait that long to re-watch movies I think more highly of. because as a general rule for me... anything among my favorite movies (or thereabouts) of will see at least one re-watch every few years or so (I figure even if one slacks quite a bit, I would still want to see them at least once every 5 years or so (maybe 10 years on the extreme side of things)) which is currently 153 movies (might as well somewhat call it 186 movies if I count movies a bit shy of favorite movie status). that helps keep my interest in movies because if I rarely re-watched movies I would largely lose interest in them simply because I would likely go long stretches without seeing another movie of any real worth if I stuck to watching only movies I have not seen before (especially in the past) to the point I would largely only see some gems into the future like say 2019+ etc.
Hell, now that you mention that... I would be curious to see what's some of Time's worst movies of the decade as I would not be surprised if they listed their Top 25 and Bottom 25, that some in the bottom would be better than a good portion of their top list etc. I think it could further prove how disconnected some people are from the common person.
because like I was saying... we all have our preferences and obviously no one will perfectly agree on every choice, but I think the key is, as long as ones taste in movies is not TOO far off the radar of the common person. because once someone goes that far, their opinions on movies are largely worthless to the average movie goer.
but at the end of the day... when someone makes a Top movies of a decade list for example, all I ask is they are honest in what they personally like watching the most. because any other thing besides that is a lie basically as it's not their true opinion. I would have liked to see how Time Magazine came up with their list... like the opinion of the owner, or a handful of the top guys working there etc. or maybe they just had all employee's list some of their favorites and the ones listed the most among the employee's were selected as the top 10 choices etc(?).
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 28, 2019 23:15:00 GMT
Popeye DoyleWhat you say is possible but it's easily plausible that what sdrew13163 and I think about it is true to. personally... I am leaning towards sdrew's line of thinking on this one given the rest of their list, John Wick seems clearly out of place. so it appears to be a attempt on their end to pretend they are "one of the people", like sdrew said. I'm glad you reinforced over and over that it is you and sdrew specifically that feel this way. We don't want to confuse people that someone else might feel this way. Just you and sdrew. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 29, 2019 0:00:07 GMT
Lmao at the John Wick inclusion. Obviously a ploy to look like “one of the people.” Or, God forbid, they actually like the movie. I’m sure they do. I just find it hard to believe they’d pick that over some other movie that fits the rest of their theme. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 29, 2019 0:08:11 GMT
twothousandonemark Correct me if I am wrong, but are you saying your not going to re-watch your Top 50 or so movies until around the year 2030?
No re-listing. I've learned to appreciate the once in 10yrs or so angle.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 29, 2019 0:30:15 GMT
twothousandonemark Re-listing?
do you mean as far as changing your favorite movies list? I guess if you can still find plenty of movies you have not seen before to be fairly enjoyable I could see how it would be easier to re-watch your favorites only once every 10 year thing. but for me that's way to long as if I only watched my favorites once a decade I would only be seeing them maybe another 4-5 times or so and I would be dead. with that said... I guess if someone is really busy with little free time, that's going to force them to not re-watch many movies on that alone. still, any movies one likes to a higher degree I would think even they would like to re-watch some of their very top movies (say maybe something around their Top 10-20 movies or something like that) at least once every 5 years or so.
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Post by Vits on Dec 29, 2019 1:04:05 GMT
John Wick seems clearly out of place. Because it's an action movie? You could say the same thing about MELANCHOLIA (a sci-fi movie) and CAVE OF FORGOTTEN DREAMS (a documentary). The rest are dramas, but they vary in tone and themes. In fact, BEFORE MIDNIGHT is a dramedy that many would argue leans more towards comedy and THE LOST CITY OF Z has elements of the adventure genre.
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Post by biker1 on Dec 29, 2019 2:11:46 GMT
I'd rather read the list than some of these user observations on this thread..most of which don't ring true at all.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 29, 2019 2:23:56 GMT
Vits But you can surely see why I said what I said as John Wick is easily the stand out of those least like the others on that list overall and it's more mainstream unlike the others etc. it's basically why I and sdrew said what we said. this seems pretty obvious to us.
I would disagree. Before Midnight is clearly more drama than comedy as it's more of a serious movie than a laughing movie overall at it core like the rest of the series is (sure, they might have some funny stuff here and there but it's just a bonus to the core of the movies which is more serious than comedy). I think that's pretty obvious.
because while some movies have a roughly equal balance of the drama/comedy, I think Before Midnight is more of a serious movie at it's core like the previous two movies of the series are.
like if you have me classify Before Midnight as one of the following...
A)Serious movie B)Roughly a equal balance of drama/comedy (or the like) C)Comedy movie
I would definitely lean towards option A as I think option B is a bit of a stretch, but Option C is definitely out of the question. because when one thinks of 'comedy movie', they typically think 'straight comedies' (and the like) and Before Midnight is not even close to that standard. hence, definitely not a comedy.
hell, IMDb even list it as 'Drama | Romance' which is pretty much correct in my book as that's what I see at it's core for the series as while it might have a funny thing said here and there, it's pretty obvious to me, it's not a comedy at all as it's like taking a random serious movie and having a little comedy in it here and there does not change that it's a serious movie overall.
p.s. a example of Option B for me would be something like... Thank You For Smoking (2005).
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Post by petrolino on Jan 1, 2020 5:45:31 GMT
Say hollo to the big dog. Woof! Woof!
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