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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 10, 2017 14:24:31 GMT
I know what you mean, but I don't know what you mean, if you know what I mean. Haven't got a clue! Well I have, but I haven't. But don't tell me. Someone else might get it if I don't.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jun 10, 2017 14:42:59 GMT
Ha! Of course, it's an unusual means of execution, but if the government-without-guns has been putting money into this particular kind of program, why not? Kill--er--two birds with one stone.
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 10, 2017 15:10:14 GMT
Nalkarj Hypnotise or brainwash a victim into jumping off a twenty-storey building, but I don't think that's possible, except in fiction and the movies.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jun 10, 2017 15:17:25 GMT
More like (here, I'll give it away for anyone who may want just to know it, so that this whole thing can be ended) the government was starting its space-exploration program, to shoot a rocket (and a criminal strapped on the side of it) into outer space!
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 10, 2017 15:35:24 GMT
Nalkarj I suppose it had to be some sort of James Bond like jaunt, I thnk I've mentioned just about every other sort of knocking someone off. I wouldn't rate it as being "shot to death"....sorry. Misdirection there I fear. Why not just put him in the exhaust chamber (or whatever it's called)?
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Post by Nalkarj on Jun 10, 2017 15:39:04 GMT
Nalkarj I suppose it had to be some sort of James Bond like jaunt, I thnk I've mentioned just about every other sort of knocking someone off. I wouldn't rate it as being "shot to death"....sorry. Misdirection there I fear. Why not just put him in the exhaust chamber (or whatever it's called.)? Ah, but he was shot along with the rocket--to his death. Thus the similarity to the cannon. Misdirection? Probably. But no more so, I feel, than the very first riddle on this thread.
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 10, 2017 15:54:46 GMT
True. I guess that's the name of the game. Nice idea though, but I think Human Rights might have something to say about it.
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 10, 2017 16:05:32 GMT
This isn't a riddle but a true story.
In times gone by many people paid for their electricity by putting coins in a meter slot. One of my neighbours came up with a ruse which baffled the company guy who came round to collect the cash from the meter. He found the meter had registered that electricity had been used at a regular rate, and coins had been put through the slot. But the cash container was empty. The seals were still intact.
How did my neighbour do it?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 10, 2017 16:30:02 GMT
tarathian123How did my neighbour do it? Your neighbor perhaps used a coin attached to a string ?
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 10, 2017 16:33:59 GMT
Nice idea Bat, but wrong. It would be impossible to pull the coin out again.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jun 10, 2017 16:52:24 GMT
True. I guess that's the name of the game. Nice idea though, but I think Human Rights might have something to say about it. Very probably! I was struck by ambiguity of the phrase "shot to death." What does it mean, to be shot? We usually use it as "to be harmed from a bullet," but the expression "so-and-so was shot" could have the meaning "shot out of a cannon," or "shot while strapped to a rocket" [ ], as well. Thus the concept for the puzzle--well, that and Chesterton's "The Fairy Tale of Father Brown," which begins with this premise--but, then, we quickly learn that only citizens don't have guns (security forces, military, police still do). It's still an entertaining tale, but of a different sort.
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 10, 2017 17:04:22 GMT
I've read a lot of Father Brown stories, but not that one.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jun 10, 2017 17:08:01 GMT
This isn't a riddle but a true story. In times gone by many people paid for their electricity by putting coins in a meter slot. One of my neighbours came up with a ruse which baffled the company guy who came round to collect the cash from the meter. He found the meter had registered that electricity had been used at a regular rate, and coins had been put through the slot. But the cash container was empty. The seals were still intact. How did my neighbour do it? My first thought was, naturally, that he had used slugs or real coins with a thin string attached, something people did (at least in movies) on soda machines before the soda companies got wise to the trick. Or ice in the shape of a coin? That's a trick I've seen once or twice.
I believe there was something similar in a detective story I've read--something rings a bell. Either a Carr tale or the '46 movie adaptation of Green for Danger... I can't remember. I'd have to find it and look it up. Someone came up with a trick to make someone else think he was in the room longer than he actually was because the lights were on, or something...
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 10, 2017 17:10:49 GMT
Nice idea Bat, but wrong. [ Quelle surprise ! Gonna go sit in the shade, eat my , and watch the others try this one.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 10, 2017 17:12:45 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Jun 10, 2017 17:16:24 GMT
Bat, I like it the idea too, but I don't know if (practically) it would work. Anyhoo, hope both of you enjoyed (somewhat) the "man shot to death" puzzle.
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 10, 2017 17:16:35 GMT
Nalkarj The ice coin is correct. He made a mould of the coin(s), then simply made ice coins in the freezer. How it was discovered was that when the coins thawed in the box a small stain was left. My neighbour was fined, had to pay his bill, but a prison stretch was waived. The company installed a weighing gadget into all the meters to combat the ruse being used again.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 10, 2017 17:23:09 GMT
Nalkarjtarathian123I still think that the coin on a string thing might work if it was a straight shot to the coin box and the coin could be extracted rather like getting a coin back out of a piggy bank. As said, it did work that way in beverage machines. Not that anyone I know ever did it !
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Post by Nalkarj on Jun 10, 2017 17:26:18 GMT
Nalkarj The ice coin is correct. He made a mould of the coin(s), then simply made ice coins in the freezer. How it was discovered was that when the coins thawed in the box a small stain was left. My neighbour was fined, had to pay his bill, but a prison stretch was waived. The company installed a weighing gadget into all the meters to combat the ruse being used again. Wow! Can't take the credit for the solution, though--I read about those meters years ago while trying to plot a story, and someone on a forum mentioned that trick.
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 10, 2017 17:26:28 GMT
BATouttaheckHow would you get the thickness of both the coin and the string through the slot
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