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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 26, 2017 20:38:26 GMT
Salzmank , jervistetch , brimfin , Pete , et al. Re- Two sons ---- This isn't an answer but a query? Is it possible for a woman to be impregnated (e.g. at a gang rape) by two different guys one immediately after the other, and the issue born at the same time but having different biological fathers? I could I suppose research it, but I'm wondering if the brains on this thread know.
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 26, 2017 20:57:29 GMT
SalzmankHave you noticed how many artists must be unbelievers, because most of them painted Adam and Eve with navels. But Adam and Eve wouldn't have had belly buttons. They weren't born, they were created.
Still working on your second method of recognition.
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Post by Pete on Jun 26, 2017 20:58:20 GMT
A woman is the biological mother of two boys, born at the same hour/day/year, but they are not twins/triplets/etc. DNA analysis will show they are her sons, each one has half her chromosomal DNA. None of the previous solutions apply. How? She donated several of her egg cells. Later two of them were fertilized in a test tube by different fathers, implanted in different women and born at the same time. And I think that's enough of this particular riddle.
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 26, 2017 21:14:15 GMT
Salzmank Have you noticed how many artists must be unbelievers, because most of them painted Adam and Eve with navels. But Adam and Eve wouldn't have had belly buttons. They weren't born, they were created.
Still working on your second method of recognition. Right, that's the point I'm trying to forestall with the "God created them with navels" bit. The recognition by belly-button is the usual solution. I quite like the idea of alternate solutions to oft-told riddles; it is not my idea, to be honest, but I was inspired by one riddle website, which gave numerous solutions as long as they complied with all the terms in the set-up.
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 26, 2017 21:15:50 GMT
Salzmank , jervistetch , brimfin , Pete , et al. Re- Two sons ---- This isn't an answer but a query? Is it possible for a woman to be impregnated (e.g. at a gang rape) by two different guys one immediately after the other, and the issue born at the same time but having different biological fathers? I could I suppose research it, but I'm wondering if the brains on this thread know. I, for one, haven't the foggiest idea, but then my scientific knowledge is at about the level of a gnat. Sorry, Tarathian...
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 26, 2017 21:27:59 GMT
Salzmank --- Oh dear! And my old medical books are up in the attic!
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 27, 2017 0:27:15 GMT
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 27, 2017 0:53:59 GMT
SalzmankTo quote your own words "I, for one, haven't the foggiest idea". 
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 27, 2017 0:58:23 GMT
Salzmank To quote your own words "I, for one, haven't the foggiest idea". Ah! It may be somewhat specific, but I think it's a piece of Biblical information that most people know. (I did, and my Biblical knowledge is very limited.) Would it help if I told you that he recognized Adam only, and simply presumed that the woman with him was Eve?
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Post by Pete on Jun 27, 2017 1:35:51 GMT
I don't suppose he was able to count anyone's ribs. Cause that don't make sense. My guess is you're thinking Adam was created as an adult man, say aged 20. So when he was 21 years old he'd look 41. He'd be the only 41 year old in a world of 21 year olds.
But that's wrong, because Adam lived for over 900 years, according to Genesis.
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Post by jervistetch on Jun 27, 2017 1:38:40 GMT
Since they were all naked did the man recognize a glaring asymmetry in Adam's ribcage?
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 27, 2017 1:39:40 GMT
Since they were all naked did the man recognize a glaring asymmetry in Adam's ribcage? That's it, Jervis! Excellent thinking, and congrats!
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 27, 2017 1:41:51 GMT
I don't suppose
he was able to count anyone's ribs. Cause that don't make sense. I was thinking of it as Jervis phrased it above: they're all naked, as noted, and Adam is noticeably missing a rib.
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Post by jervistetch on Jun 27, 2017 1:42:51 GMT
Yes! But Pete may have beaten me by a few minutes.
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 27, 2017 1:55:07 GMT
A doctor goes fishing with his son. As they return to the dock, the doctor suffers a heart attack, and when his son tries to steady him he collapses and the son strikes his head on the dock. A man nearby sees this and calls an ambulance and they are both rushed to the hospital. As the son is wheeled into the operating room, the doctor looks at him and says, "I can't operate on this boy. He's my son!" The boy is not adopted. How is this scene possible? Now, we all know this one, as Brimfin posted it all the way back on the first page. The usual solution is the doctor is in fact a woman, the boy's mother. Befitting my "alternate solutions to oft-told riddles" bit, however, I've recently found another solution to this age-old puzzle. (And, to forestall an immediate alternate solution, let's say this story takes place 50 years ago.) Any ideas? 
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 27, 2017 5:54:01 GMT
SalzmankWhile the Puzzlers are off working on the latest, am just going to comment that sitting here and watching the proceedings reminds me of those scenes in the likes of Good Will Hunting where the physicists or mathematicians are frantically writing formulas on blackboards and the audience is mostly going "whut are they talkin' 'bout ? " 
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 27, 2017 6:15:44 GMT
Salzmank --- Re: Adam and Eve recognition. I'd thought about the rib count, but discarded it as it only works for Adam. If Adam is not around at the time how do you recognise Eve? You asked for recognitiion of both.
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Post by tarathian123 on Jun 27, 2017 12:54:36 GMT
a) Is it illegal for a doctor to treat members of family, or just considered as unethical? I can't seem to find anything in law (either UK or US) that prevents such family treatment. Salzmankb) How many doctors are there, one or two? Did the fishing doctor recover from his heart attack to operate on his son, or is the hospital doctor a different doctor?
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 27, 2017 13:09:49 GMT
Salzmank To quote your own words "I, for one, haven't the foggiest idea". Ah! It may be somewhat specific, but I think it's a piece of Biblical information that most people know. (I did, and my Biblical knowledge is very limited.) Would it help if I told you that he recognized Adam only, and simply presumed that the woman with him was Eve? Salzmank --- Re: Adam and Eve recognition. I'd thought about the rib count, but discarded it as it only works for Adam. If Adam is not around at the time how do you recognise Eve? You asked for recognitiion of both. Oh, I tried to clarify that with the post in which I say the man only recognizes Adam and simply assumes the woman next to him is Eve.
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 27, 2017 13:14:21 GMT
a) Is it illegal for a doctor to treat members of family, or just considered as unethical? I can't seem to find anything in law (either UK or US) that prevents such family treatment. Salzmankb) How many doctors are there, one or two? Did the fishing doctor recover from his heart attack to operate on his son, or is the hospital doctor a different doctor? I don't see and can't imagine anything illegal about it, especially in times of emergency like that in the setup. I was intending that the hospital doctor was a distinct person from the fishing doctor, though your idea is very clever and is similar to what I was thinking here, with various meanings of words—or, more accurately, of titles.
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