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Post by alfromni on Oct 6, 2017 2:48:24 GMT
Salzmank Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm out of ideas on it. Send a PM to those who would, and leave the puzzle open for those who wouldn't.
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Post by Salzmank on Oct 6, 2017 2:59:47 GMT
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 6, 2017 3:00:51 GMT
Would everyone like the solution to the house puzzle? Maybe the solution could be posted with one of those things that covers up the answer and if you wanna read it you can and if you don't wanna you don't have to... what's that thingy called again ? A Covery-uppy ? nah, that doesn't sound quite right. Anyway . Use that thingy. Maybe.
poor dear departed horse.
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Post by Salzmank on Oct 6, 2017 3:02:27 GMT
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Post by Salzmank on Oct 6, 2017 3:11:52 GMT
The solution (borrowed from a Hitchcock Presents episode, as stated):
The succinct phrasing would be this: he bought the house to find evidence that could have convicted him of a crime.
Let's flesh it out:
Many years earlier, the old man committed a crime--let's say murder--in that house. He hid the bloodstained knife, with his fingerprints on it, in a crevice and disposed of the body. Little known to him, someone is watching. This person tries to blackmail him, and he kills him too, but the police discover this crime and send him to prison. His bank account is frozen by the bank while he's in there, but he's still able to get at it when he gets out.
When he finally gets out of prison, the one thing he does not want to do is to go back. He prays that no one else found the knife, and he wants to make sure that no one ever does find it. He'd like to get rid of all possible traces--thus burning it down, and no one would know he'd asked about it because of lawyer/client confidentiality--but he'll make do with destroying the knife and then selling the house.
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Post by brimfin on Oct 6, 2017 11:49:06 GMT
House puzzle My last thought on the matter (I slept on it) is that the skinflint just found out he was dying and didn't want the money to go to his heirs. He could have changed his will, but perhaps one heir was a lawyer and he thought they would contest it. So he spent all his money on the property and then destroyed it to leave no value to his estate. Still, there would be easier ways to do that - buy an expensive work of art and donate it to a museum (or even burn it if he's that mean.) Or just burn his money.
Later, I will go and check the solution. I gove you my word I did not look at it before I posted this. |
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Post by alfromni on Oct 7, 2017 13:22:05 GMT
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 7, 2017 16:50:33 GMT
RE: "I'm tired of this bunch of cutthroats around here...". Only one other poster replied and the OP didn't bother coming back to the thread. I could not find it in August or now. Have seen this poster around and it's possibly just "a line from a movie" not all are "quotable". alfromni |
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Post by alfromni on Oct 7, 2017 16:56:47 GMT
BATouttaheckI've definitely heard the line in some movie or other. My mind says not a pirate movie.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 7, 2017 17:00:42 GMT
alfromni I suggest that you ask the OP of that old thread. It would be the quickest way . It's His quote and he MIGHT remember 
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Post by alfromni on Oct 7, 2017 17:05:40 GMT
BATouttaheck --- If he can't be bothered answering his own thread, he'll hardly answer me. I'm in no hurry
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Post by brimfin on Oct 7, 2017 18:40:40 GMT
The solution (borrowed from a Hitchcock Presents episode, as stated):
The succinct phrasing would be this: he bought the house to find evidence that could have convicted him of a crime.
Let's flesh it out:
Many years earlier, the old man committed a crime--let's say murder--in that house. He hid the bloodstained knife, with his fingerprints on it, in a crevice and disposed of the body. Little known to him, someone is watching. This person tries to blackmail him, and he kills him too, but the police discover this crime and send him to prison. His bank account is frozen by the bank while he's in there, but he's still able to get at it when he gets out.
When he finally gets out of prison, the one thing he does not want to do is to go back. He prays that no one else found the knife, and he wants to make sure that no one ever does find it. He'd like to get rid of all possible traces--thus burning it down, and no one would know he'd asked about it because of lawyer/client confidentiality--but he'll make do with destroying the knife and then selling the house.
Interesting. Well, it is a plausible solution. I'm feeling good about the first guess I made. There was something he didn't like about the house - incriminating evidence against him was hidden in it. My last part was also correct: "So he offers such an outrageous price he knows they'll have to accept it. Then he happily tears it down. He knows he'll never get the price he paid for it back, so he just sells it for as much as he can reasonably get." Not sure why he had to offer her such a huge price if the house was already for sale; I suppose that was to indicate that he was in panic mode. And one could argue that he had an emotional connection to the house - he was SCARED TO DEATH that someone would find that evidence in it.  Let us know what episode of AHP that was. I might try to catch it on ME-TV. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 7, 2017 19:58:08 GMT
BATouttaheck I've definitely heard the line in some movie or other. My mind says not a pirate movie. So far he says it is a western. |
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Post by alfromni on Oct 7, 2017 20:04:43 GMT
BATouttaheckSo he does. I missed that. Strange as I was thinking of the Old Muddy and Burl Ives in "The Big Country". But I don't have the movie to check it out.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 7, 2017 20:11:24 GMT
alfromni You didn't miss it .. he just now said it. The quote doesn't seem to be referenced anywhere. This probably belongs in I Need To Know in any case.
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Post by alfromni on Oct 7, 2017 23:17:20 GMT
BATouttaheck Not "The Big Country". I checked the online script of both it and "The Commancheros". Not "The Hallelujah Trail" either. Then thought it might have been "Invitation to a Gunfighter" as I recently watched it too. Still have it on computer, but no again. I could swear I've recently seen the movie which contains this quote, but it just won't come to mind. I don't watch Westerns too often, but I recently watched a spate of them. The quote was in one of them. But which? Aye there's the rub!
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Post by Salzmank on Oct 11, 2017 19:20:43 GMT
The solution (borrowed from a Hitchcock Presents episode, as stated):
The succinct phrasing would be this: he bought the house to find evidence that could have convicted him of a crime.
Let's flesh it out:
Many years earlier, the old man committed a crime--let's say murder--in that house. He hid the bloodstained knife, with his fingerprints on it, in a crevice and disposed of the body. Little known to him, someone is watching. This person tries to blackmail him, and he kills him too, but the police discover this crime and send him to prison. His bank account is frozen by the bank while he's in there, but he's still able to get at it when he gets out.
When he finally gets out of prison, the one thing he does not want to do is to go back. He prays that no one else found the knife, and he wants to make sure that no one ever does find it. He'd like to get rid of all possible traces--thus burning it down, and no one would know he'd asked about it because of lawyer/client confidentiality--but he'll make do with destroying the knife and then selling the house.
Interesting. Well, it is a plausible solution. I'm feeling good about the first guess I made. There was something he didn't like about the house - incriminating evidence against him was hidden in it. My last part was also correct: "So he offers such an outrageous price he knows they'll have to accept it. Then he happily tears it down. He knows he'll never get the price he paid for it back, so he just sells it for as much as he can reasonably get." Not sure why he had to offer her such a huge price if the house was already for sale; I suppose that was to indicate that he was in panic mode. And one could argue that he had an emotional connection to the house - he was SCARED TO DEATH that someone would find that evidence in it. Let us know what episode of AHP that was. I might try to catch it on ME-TV. Sorry for not replying sooner, Brimfin. I've been away for several days for a variety of reasons. The AHP episode was "The Right Kind of House" (Season 3, Episode 23).
As for "emotional connection"--well, yes, but as I wrote to Al, "no emotion--in fact, to the contrary, unless one counts 'self-interest' as emotion."
Don't know if that should be "spoilered," but better safe than sorry. |
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Post by Salzmank on Oct 11, 2017 19:23:35 GMT
alfromni wrote: --which, I think, is going to be our argot word for "unsolvable mystery" in the days to come... Hey, we are forming a secret society, complete with secret codes!
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Post by brimfin on Oct 12, 2017 9:14:22 GMT
Interesting. Well, it is a plausible solution. I'm feeling good about the first guess I made. There was something he didn't like about the house - incriminating evidence against him was hidden in it. My last part was also correct: "So he offers such an outrageous price he knows they'll have to accept it. Then he happily tears it down. He knows he'll never get the price he paid for it back, so he just sells it for as much as he can reasonably get." Not sure why he had to offer her such a huge price if the house was already for sale; I suppose that was to indicate that he was in panic mode. And one could argue that he had an emotional connection to the house - he was SCARED TO DEATH that someone would find that evidence in it. Let us know what episode of AHP that was. I might try to catch it on ME-TV. Sorry for not replying sooner, Brimfin. I've been away for several days for a variety of reasons. The AHP episode was "The Right Kind of House" (Season 3, Episode 23).
As for "emotional connection"--well, yes, but as I wrote to Al, "no emotion--in fact, to the contrary, unless one counts 'self-interest' as emotion."
Don't know if that should be "spoilered," but better safe than sorry. I was just making a joke - hence the laughing icons.
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Post by brimfin on Oct 12, 2017 9:39:44 GMT
Okay, I have a riddle for everyone:
In 1970, a woman named Shirley is assigned a business trip to Cassadaga, Florida – home of many psychics and mediums. Being there, she can’t resist the temptation and she goes to see a psychic named Madame Zolga. She’s skeptical, so she deliberately doesn’t give her any personal information about herself. But she pays her in advance and then asks her to look into the future 25 years and see what her life will be life.
Madame Zolga concentrates and then has a vision. She says to Shirley, “You are married, yes?” “Yes,” she replies. Zolga pauses. “Do you have three sons perhaps – Jimmy, Jason, and Jeremy?” Shirley is amazed! “Yes,” she declares. Zolga pauses and says sadly, “I’m very sorry to tell you this, but 25 years from now all three of your sons will be in prison.” Shirley is shocked by the revelation. She bursts into tears and runs out of the room and drives off. The next day she asks around about Madame Zolga, hoping to hear she’s some phony. But everyone she talks to says Madame Zolga is one of the best psychics in the business and she’s never wrong!
25 years passes, and in the year 1995 Shirley hears about another business trip to Cassadaga and eagerly volunteers. She goes to the same area and is happily surprised to see that Madame Zolga is still in business. She goes into her place of business and catches her between customers. “You probably don’t remember me,” she declares, “but 25 years ago I came here and you told me my three sons would end up in prison. Well, Jimmy is a priest, Jason is a teacher, and Jeremy is a policeman. All three of them are pillars of the community and they’ve never spent so much as one night in prison. So you were wrong!”
Madame Zolga stops and thinks carefully for several seconds and then snaps her fingers. “I remember you now,” she tells her sincerely. “No, my vision was true. I just misinterpreted it.” “What do you mean?” asks Shirley. “Well,” she explains. “I saw a picture of you sitting at a desk at home. A daily calendar read ‘October 5, 1995’. I saw a picture of you with what looked like you and your husband with three children and then a saw a paper and it read….”
Read what? What did Madame Zolga see that lead her to believe that Shirley’s three sons would end up in prison?
For the sake of this riddle: Madame Zolga is a genuine psychic who had a genuine glimpse into the future that she honestly misinterpreted. Let’s see if you can figure it out.
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