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Post by vegalyra on Dec 31, 2019 14:44:54 GMT
There was not a year "zero" so every decade begins with a "1" at the end of it. No reign of a monarch or other leader ever started from Year Zero. It's always Year One. Do you count from 0 to 9 or from 1 to 10? Just something to think about with all of these best of the decade posts. They are a year too early.  |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Dec 31, 2019 15:03:21 GMT
No. 2020 needs to be grouped with 2021 and 2022, not with 2018 and 2019.
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Post by NewtJorden on Dec 31, 2019 15:17:46 GMT
There was not a year "zero" so every decade begins with a "1" at the end of it. No reign of a monarch or other leader ever started from Year Zero. It's always Year One. Do you count from 0 to 9 or from 1 to 10? Just something to think about with all of these best of the decade posts. They are a year too early. Decade is from 0 to 9. Century is the one that start with a 1.
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Post by ellynmacg on Dec 31, 2019 15:42:48 GMT
There was not a year "zero" so every decade begins with a "1" at the end of it. No reign of a monarch or other leader ever started from Year Zero. It's always Year One. Do you count from 0 to 9 or from 1 to 10? Just something to think about with all of these best of the decade posts. They are a year too early. Decade is from 0 to 9. Century is the one that start with a 1. Not just centuries--also millennia. The Third Millennium started not in 2000, but in 2001. (Cue "Also Sprach Zarathustra")
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Post by kevin on Dec 31, 2019 15:43:40 GMT
I always categorize decades from 0 to 9. I get the technicalities, but in that case I just think it's stupid that there was never a year zero. I once again get why there's not a 0 AD since AD is just its own calender and it's weird to start counting from 0 (even though to me it feels natural to start with 0 anyways due to the computer science stuff I've done the last few years), but that's just the fault of a flawed calender system. It's just because zero wasn't considered to be a real 'number' or value in Western countries until quite a long time after the calender was set up. It complicates calculations where we think of calenders as being continuous and not 2 separate ones connected by 1 BC and 1 AD.
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Post by koskiewicz on Dec 31, 2019 15:47:01 GMT
I agree with the OP.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 17:53:38 GMT
Every decade this discussion happens, and I guess it has merit...
But as soon as the champagne is drunk and we wake up the next day, it will be the start of the twenties, and twenty twenty will be lumped with all the other twenties when all is done.
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Post by koskiewicz on Dec 31, 2019 17:56:30 GMT
This thread reminds me of the Y2K fiasco...  |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 31, 2019 18:03:13 GMT
Personally i only follow the Geologic time scale which last about 3 million years and we are only 11.500 years into the current epoch of the Holocene
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Post by rogerthat on Dec 31, 2019 19:32:08 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 31, 2019 19:44:43 GMT
You are technically correct, but pretty much everyone else considers 2020 to be the start of the next decade, in the same way that 2000 was considered the start of a new millennium. It’s less confusing and more convenient that way.
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 31, 2019 20:42:49 GMT
I went over and over this online and with friends and co-workers at the turn of the century. It is like trying to stop the tide with a broom. I know that you are perfectly correct but I finally just got worn out and gave up the ghost on this question. It seems that for most people, mentally and psychologically, the zero year belongs as the first year of the decade/century/millennia - no matter how many times they are told it is wrong.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Dec 31, 2019 20:45:26 GMT
There are TWO types of decades!!! 2010-9 THEN 2020-9 and ALSO 2011-20 THEN 2021-30!!! One CORRESPONDS with the 2000s (2000-2999) OR (2000-99). The OTHER to either and BOTH the 21st century (2001-2100) and the 3rd millennium (2001-3000)!!!!
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Post by marianne48 on Jan 1, 2020 0:09:50 GMT
A 2-month-old baby is 0 years old; you can buy it clothes and diapers for "age 0 to 6 months" because it's in its first year. When it reaches its first birthday, it begins its second year. So there is a "year zero," and HAPPY NEW DECADE!!
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 1, 2020 7:57:05 GMT
regardless of what's technically correct etc etc, It's easier for people to list things like... 2010-2019, 2020-2029 and so on.
Look at it this way...
2010-2019 for example is actually ten years but doing some basic math it appears like 9 years since if you take 2019 and subtract 2010 it comes out to 9 years. but since you do count 2010 as the first year of the decade, it's actually a full ten.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jan 1, 2020 8:06:44 GMT
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Post by Cooper, the Golden Retriever on Jan 1, 2020 8:15:48 GMT
All of those saying new decade=year ending in 1 are absolutely correct:
NO year knwon as "0" existed, there fore, this, 2020, is NOT the start of the 2020's but just the last year of the 2010s (all due respect to those thinkinhg otherwise.) Happy new year, though not decade, and we are alreayd IN a new millenium since 1/1/2001.(ALSO SPRACH Z..)
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 1, 2020 8:34:05 GMT
I've always found these decade concepts to be interpreted strangely...
While it is true, that most people talk about the 00s, the 10s, the 20s...
They also talk about such decades as being something very rigid & finite, such as the music or clothes belonging to a particular decade...
So, what are you wearing today, or listening to today... that you didn't yesterday? LOL!
Just because it is now 2020, that doesn't mean that the 2010s are suddenly GONE, and we are in a new "Decade"!
Time continues to steadily flow like a river, and there will be a transition period for a while, before we will enter what will eventually be considered to be the 2020s.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jan 1, 2020 8:46:25 GMT
All of those saying new decade=year ending in 1 are absolutely correct: NO year knwon as "0" existed, there fore, this, 2020, is NOT the start of the 2020's but just the last year of the 2010s (all due respect to those thinkinhg otherwise.) Happy new year, though not decade, and we are alreayd IN a new millenium since 1/1/2001.(ALSO SPRACH Z..)
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Post by kls on Jan 1, 2020 11:18:11 GMT
A 2-month-old baby is 0 years old; you can buy it clothes and diapers for "age 0 to 6 months" because it's in its first year. When it reaches its first birthday, it begins its second year. So there is a "year zero," and HAPPY NEW DECADE!! True, but that baby isn't 10 until the end of his or her 10th year. That has nothing to do with the calendar never having a year zero.
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