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Post by mstreepsucks on Jan 4, 2020 18:07:50 GMT
Or a Gary Stu character in them? There's the obvious one, (well, 3 films) but I mean besides those.
not that I think it is necessarily a 'bad ' thing of course. I just cannot think of any other examples.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 20:06:29 GMT
A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Typically, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment. They can usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience, and usually are able through some means to upstage the protagonist of an established fictional setting, such as by saving the hero. Other traits of a Mary Sue include, bending the rules of the story (narrative, characterization and natural laws of the setting) and being an over centralizing figure.
- Twilight (Bella Swan)
- Resident Evil (Alice)
- The Hunger Games (Katniss Everdeen)
- James Bond
- Harry Potter
- Indiana Jones
- John Wick
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 4, 2020 20:10:09 GMT
Captain Marvel
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 4, 2020 21:20:34 GMT
A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Typically, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment. They can usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience, and usually are able through some means to upstage the protagonist of an established fictional setting, such as by saving the hero. Other traits of a Mary Sue include, bending the rules of the story (narrative, characterization and natural laws of the setting) and being an over centralizing figure.- Twilight (Bella Swan) - Resident Evil (Alice) - The Hunger Games (Katniss Everdeen)- James Bond - Harry Potter - Indiana Jones - John Wick It's insane to view her as a perfect character within the story. She was written and portrayed as extremely flawed. Maybe her sister Prim...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 21:50:27 GMT
A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Typically, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment. They can usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience, and usually are able through some means to upstage the protagonist of an established fictional setting, such as by saving the hero. Other traits of a Mary Sue include, bending the rules of the story (narrative, characterization and natural laws of the setting) and being an over centralizing figure.- Twilight (Bella Swan) - Resident Evil (Alice) - The Hunger Games (Katniss Everdeen)- James Bond - Harry Potter - Indiana Jones - John Wick It's insane to view her as a perfect character within the story. She was written and portrayed as extremely flawed. Maybe her sister Prim... Insane you say? A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Typically, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment. They can usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience, and usually are able through some means to upstage the protagonist of an established fictional setting, such as by saving the hero. Other traits of a Mary Sue include, bending the rules of the story (narrative, characterization and natural laws of the setting) and being an over centralizing figure.This also applies to Katniss. She's a Mary Sue all the way.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 4, 2020 22:01:18 GMT
a real fanfic character (or Mary Sue) is relatively seldom in professional writing. People often mistake the "plot armor" or "OP" or "chosen one" tropes with Mary Sue writing; eg the guys in Chronicles get OP (God-like) but not Mary Sues as they stumble over their flaws. Textbook MS characters are:
- Rey Skywalker-Palpatine (THE "Copycat Sue" mostly in TFA, but in TLJ and TROS too)
- Captain Marvel in the recent movie
- Wesley Crusher in several ST:TNG episodes
- Bela and her boyfriend in Twilight (these are so called "Anti-Sue" types)
- J Bond - but only in certain films, eg Moonraker where he suddenly is able to steer SpaceShuttles, to go on Astronaut trips through outer space, or fight in zero gravity.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 22:05:00 GMT
Sure, Katniss had flaws, but people were easy to overlook them and in the end everything revolved around her. That makes her a Mary Sue in my eyes. Maybe it's different in the books, but it sure counts for the movies.
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Post by shannondegroot on Jan 4, 2020 23:13:59 GMT
The girl in Tomorrowland (2015)
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