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Post by darkpast on Jan 5, 2020 5:22:48 GMT
anyone interested? the theatrical cut is already pretty long
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 5, 2020 14:10:27 GMT
I'm willing to see what else there is. I certainly didn't feel like there was anything missing, but I liked the movie enough to watch a longer version.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Jan 5, 2020 15:40:21 GMT
Sure, I'd be up for that. I really like how the movie retained the feel of the novel, and how it was mostly faithful to it. The climax was quite different from that of the book, but I liked what they did with it, and hey, it was made a sequel to match with Kubrick's film anyway.
It's such a shame it didn't do well at the box office.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Jan 8, 2020 20:45:20 GMT
Possibly. I missed it in the theaters, and I'm waiting for streaming to have it. Then I might ante up.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 8, 2020 22:23:57 GMT
Sure, that was the problem with Doctor Sleep, it was too short.
They should pay some YouTuber to Deep Fake the original cast into it while they're at it.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 8, 2020 23:46:54 GMT
Sure, that was the problem with Doctor Sleep, it was too short. They should pay some YouTuber to Deep Fake the original cast into it while they're at it. Well, I think the consensus seems to have been that it didn't really have many problems. But thankfully they didn't digitally paste the old cast onto the new actors.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 9, 2020 0:11:47 GMT
anyone interested? the theatrical cut is already pretty long
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 9, 2020 0:44:39 GMT
Sure, that was the problem with Doctor Sleep, it was too short. They should pay some YouTuber to Deep Fake the original cast into it while they're at it. Well, I think the consensus seems to have been that it didn't really have many problems. But thankfully they didn't digitally paste the old cast onto the new actors. Oh, well that must make it an objective fact. Fuck me and my opinion. And it'd have been less distracting than having Elliot from ET cosplay as Jack Nicholson and some lady that looks nothing like her do a Shelly Duvall impression. Of course, the movie could have avoided having to make either choice by being its own thing and not connected to the Kubrick adaptation, but alas.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 9, 2020 1:13:11 GMT
Well, I think the consensus seems to have been that it didn't really have many problems. But thankfully they didn't digitally paste the old cast onto the new actors. Oh, well that must make it an objective fact. Fuck me and my opinion. And it'd have been less distracting than having Elliot from ET cosplay as Jack Nicholson and some lady that looks nothing like her do a Shelly Duvall impression. Of course, the movie could have avoided having to make either choice by being its own thing and not connected to the Kubrick adaptation, but alas. Jeez relax dude. I'm having trouble understanding why you stating your opinion is valid and me stating mine is such and egregious attack on you.. but I guess fuck me right in the god damn face for ever having the indecency to do so. I didn't especially like seeing Henry Thomas' face either, but trying I think trying to avoid the Kubrick iconography altogether would be a mistake too.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 9, 2020 1:52:47 GMT
Oh, well that must make it an objective fact. Fuck me and my opinion. And it'd have been less distracting than having Elliot from ET cosplay as Jack Nicholson and some lady that looks nothing like her do a Shelly Duvall impression. Of course, the movie could have avoided having to make either choice by being its own thing and not connected to the Kubrick adaptation, but alas. Jeez relax dude. I'm having trouble understanding why you stating your opinion is valid and me stating mine is such and egregious attack on you.. but I guess fuck me right in the god damn face for ever having the indecency to do so. I didn't especially like seeing Henry Thomas' face either, but trying I think trying to avoid the Kubrick iconography altogether would be a mistake too. Stating your opinion is fine, but bringing up what the majority or consensus thinks is usually to belittle the opposing viewpoint. If that's not what you meant to do, it's all good. I think they could have. The Shining book is so different from Kubrick's movie that they had to repurpose large parts of the Doctor Sleep adaptation just to keep things consistent (for starters, the fact that the Overlook is still standing at all). Aside from the return of a now grown Danny, it's a pretty loose sequel otherwise.
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Post by Zos on Jan 9, 2020 15:42:57 GMT
If they chop off the last half hour and do it to the book I'd be happy. The "please The Shining fans" ending ruined a very good film for me.
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Post by rogerthat on Jan 11, 2020 20:46:33 GMT
I still haven't seen this. From what I read it was good though some people didn't like the ending.
I read the book which I thought was ok. Not sure if I should first watch theatrical cut or this thread topic mentioned cut
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 12, 2020 0:59:51 GMT
Jeez relax dude. I'm having trouble understanding why you stating your opinion is valid and me stating mine is such and egregious attack on you.. but I guess fuck me right in the god damn face for ever having the indecency to do so. I didn't especially like seeing Henry Thomas' face either, but trying I think trying to avoid the Kubrick iconography altogether would be a mistake too. Stating your opinion is fine, but bringing up what the majority or consensus thinks is usually to belittle the opposing viewpoint. If that's not what you meant to do, it's all good. I think they could have. The Shining book is so different from Kubrick's movie that they had to repurpose large parts of the Doctor Sleep adaptation just to keep things consistent (for starters, the fact that the Overlook is still standing at all). Aside from the return of a now grown Danny, it's a pretty loose sequel otherwise. I'd say flippant sarcasm is more belittling, but if it wasn't meant that way then it's also all good. Anyway, I'm pretty surprised by the response on this thread where people are speaking as highly of the book. Generally, I haven't seen that response to the book to be how most felt. I liked the movie, I thought that Flanagan maybe dipped into the Kubrick well one or two too many times (not even so much the Henry Thomas McGregor conversation which I think I'd have liked better with his face obscured, but more that quick flash of him on the stairs doing his Jack Nicholson face imitation). But I think it would have been completely hollow and anticlimactic to build up to an empty camp ground and then (from my understanding) still have to cast an actor to play Jack Torrance. I haven't read the book.. yet. But I think what I liked best about the movie was how he reconciled the Kubrick with the King. I think he did it almost perfectly. It told it's own story but then also set sequences within the Kubrick film, hearkened back to the tone of that film, but also was able to depict its narrative with more compassion and emotion than a Kubrick movie would. I thought it bridged that gap really well. I also thought he tempered the worst of Stephen King. Some of the shit that I've heard is in that book, and some that has survived in the movie doesn't jive with a serious tone. Even just hearing the name of the bad guy cult started to get pretty silly... hearing the individuals names get very silly. My understanding is that those names are constantly repeated through the book. Also that sort of astral projection scene was really well visualized, and could have gone so wrong so easily. I was reminded of some shitty King movies, especially in the part where Rose is challenging the little girl inside her mind it was reminiscent of those awful scenes in Dreamcatcher. I'll probably check out the book soon, but it was hard to imagine a movie working as either a sequel to the film or as a sequel to the book, and the fact that he honored both guy's creations and made it his own film was impressive to me. I thought it was about as good as it could have been.
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Feb 8, 2020 21:15:23 GMT
I just watched the directors cut. I haven't seen the theatrical release, so I cant compare. Yes, its 3 hours long, but my mind never wandered. I enjoyed it very much.
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