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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 10, 2020 18:27:03 GMT
And that reason is that I no longer presume that the experts are always right. No should presume the experts are always right. However, it's not unreasonable to assume people who not only know far more then I do or have spent 30 to 40 years professionally researching a subject would not know more than me or someone who has zero credentials or expertise. You do go to doctors with medical degrees and that practice the specialty you need don't you? You would not let your car mechanic treat you for heart disease or your doctor replace your fuel pump. And if 5 doctors say you need a heart bypass and 1 does not, who you gonna believe? Did you ever hear of something called Morgellons Disease? I know someone who has it, but the CDC in Atlanta says it doesn't exist.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 10, 2020 18:39:43 GMT
Did you ever hear of something called Morgellons Disease? I know someone who has it, but the CDC in Atlanta says it doesn't exist. From Wikipedia: Morgellons (/mɔːrˈɡɛlənz/) is the informal name of a self-diagnosed, scientifically unsubstantiated skin condition. Individuals claiming to have Morgellons typically exhibit sores, which they believe “contain” some sort of fibrous material.[1][2] Morgellons is poorly characterized, but the general medical consensus is that it is a form of delusional parasitosis. The sores are typically the result of compulsive scratching, and the fibers, when analysed, were consistently found to have originated from clothings and other textiles.
Mary Leitao,[3] a mother who rejected the medical diagnosis of her son's delusional parasitosis, named the supposed disease in 2002. She revived it from a letter written by a physician in the mid-17th century.[4] Leitao and others involved in her Morgellons Research Foundation successfully lobbied members of the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to investigate the condition in 2006.[5][6] CDC researchers issued the results of their multi-year study in January 2012, indicating that no disease organisms were present in people with so-called "Morgellons", that the fibers were likely cotton, and concluded that the condition was "similar to more commonly recognized conditions such as delusional infestation".[7][8] Sounds like a common rash to me. I would have been shocked out of my boots if you had said anything else. You're pro-establishment, and you're going with what the "experts" say, and the lies they tell.
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Post by Jonesy1 on Jan 11, 2020 8:53:48 GMT
Did you ever hear of something called Morgellons Disease? I know someone who has it, but the CDC in Atlanta says it doesn't exist. From Wikipedia: Morgellons (/mɔːrˈɡɛlənz/) is the informal name of a self-diagnosed, scientifically unsubstantiated skin condition. Individuals claiming to have Morgellons typically exhibit sores, which they believe “contain” some sort of fibrous material.[1][2] Morgellons is poorly characterized, but the general medical consensus is that it is a form of delusional parasitosis. The sores are typically the result of compulsive scratching, and the fibers, when analysed, were consistently found to have originated from clothings and other textiles.
Mary Leitao,[3] a mother who rejected the medical diagnosis of her son's delusional parasitosis, named the supposed disease in 2002. She revived it from a letter written by a physician in the mid-17th century.[4] Leitao and others involved in her Morgellons Research Foundation successfully lobbied members of the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to investigate the condition in 2006.[5][6] CDC researchers issued the results of their multi-year study in January 2012, indicating that no disease organisms were present in people with so-called "Morgellons", that the fibers were likely cotton, and concluded that the condition was "similar to more commonly recognized conditions such as delusional infestation".[7][8] Sounds like a common rash to me. Far be it for me to disagree with Wikipedia but the Mayo Clinic describe it as more then just a common rash. www.mayoclinic.org/morgellons-disease
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 11, 2020 19:34:32 GMT
Paul's laugh
Which medical school did you attend? You may have mentioned that on an earlier thread.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 11, 2020 19:36:44 GMT
From Wikipedia: Morgellons (/mɔːrˈɡɛlənz/) is the informal name of a self-diagnosed, scientifically unsubstantiated skin condition. Individuals claiming to have Morgellons typically exhibit sores, which they believe “contain” some sort of fibrous material.[1][2] Morgellons is poorly characterized, but the general medical consensus is that it is a form of delusional parasitosis. The sores are typically the result of compulsive scratching, and the fibers, when analysed, were consistently found to have originated from clothings and other textiles.
Mary Leitao,[3] a mother who rejected the medical diagnosis of her son's delusional parasitosis, named the supposed disease in 2002. She revived it from a letter written by a physician in the mid-17th century.[4] Leitao and others involved in her Morgellons Research Foundation successfully lobbied members of the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to investigate the condition in 2006.[5][6] CDC researchers issued the results of their multi-year study in January 2012, indicating that no disease organisms were present in people with so-called "Morgellons", that the fibers were likely cotton, and concluded that the condition was "similar to more commonly recognized conditions such as delusional infestation".[7][8] Sounds like a common rash to me. Far be it for me to disagree with Wikipedia but the Mayo Clinic describe it as more then just a common rash. www.mayoclinic.org/morgellons-disease I clicked on the link and it said page not found. Government censorship perhaps? EDIT -- It's okay. Maya got the link working.
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 11, 2020 19:41:47 GMT
Morgellon's Dx:
The condition is relatively uncommon and the cause isn't fully understood. Testing for infection by bacteria or parasites is usually negative. Symptoms generally include skin rashes, a sense of intense itching and crawling under the skin, and fatigue. There is no single established cure for Morgellons disease, but regular follow-up with a physician along with treatment of any associated conditions such as anxiety or depression may help.
www.mayoclinic.org/morgellons-disease/art-20044996
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 11, 2020 19:48:44 GMT
Remember there was a time when the Medical Establishment felt that "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" was a fantasy dx; that is until they isolated the causal agent, as a group of viruses with a patient who had a compromised immune system.
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Post by goz on Jan 11, 2020 20:24:12 GMT
I clicked on the link and it said page not found. Government censorship perhaps? EDIT -- It's okay. Maya got the link working. This post is absolutely hilarious! You can't get a link to work so your first response is ' Government censorship perhaps'? LOLOLOLOL Whilst Molar has dozens of degrees and professions, YOU are the absolute best conspiracy theorist!
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 11, 2020 20:28:24 GMT
I clicked on the link and it said page not found. Government censorship perhaps? EDIT -- It's okay. Maya got the link working. This post is absolutely hilarious! You can't get a link to work so your first response is ' Government censorship perhaps'? LOLOLOLOL Whilst Molar has dozens of degrees and professions, YOU are the absolute best conspiracy theorist! Keep it up, Goz, and next Christmas you're going to get more dirty coal that causes "global warming."
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 11, 2020 20:36:56 GMT
gozz
Reads like you have forgotten your promise to Admin to stop harassing me. I have nothing to do with your exchange with THE, yet you went out of your way to start all over again, by involving me.
You are a sadist and a trouble maker.
Also Boring.
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Post by goz on Jan 11, 2020 20:57:30 GMT
gozz
Reads like you have forgotten your promise to Admin to stop harassing me. I have nothing to do with your exchange with THE, yet you went out of your way to start all over again, by involving me.
You are a sadist and a trouble maker.
Also Boring.
Since I am merely replying to your posts, it can hardly be seen to be harrassment especially when I am complimenting you on having achieved so many degrees distinctions and careers in your life?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 11, 2020 21:07:56 GMT
gozz
Reads like you have forgotten your promise to Admin to stop harassing me. I have nothing to do with your exchange with THE, yet you went out of your way to start all over again, by involving me.
You are a sadist and a trouble maker.
Also Boring.
Since I am merely replying to your posts, it can hardly be seen to be harrassment especially when I am complimenting you on having achieved so many degrees distinctions and careers in your life? Goz, you're only digging yourself in deeper. Now piss off.
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Post by goz on Jan 11, 2020 21:16:07 GMT
Since I am merely replying to your posts, it can hardly be seen to be harrassment especially when I am complimenting you on having achieved so many degrees distinctions and careers in your life? Goz, you're only digging yourself in deeper. Now piss off. What on earth do you mean? Digging what deeper? Why are you answering for Molar, what does it have to do with you, and how can complimenting someone on their life's work possibly be harrassment? How can it be 'boring' and what does this even mean? I find it scintillatingly interesting to contemplate all of Molar's alleged achievements! What a brain, and how she applies all this academic knowledge to her posts is truly a lesson for us all. Apart from yourself, I have never known any other poster apply scientific and academic knowledge to ALL their posts so discerningly.
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Post by Jonesy1 on Jan 11, 2020 22:18:42 GMT
Remember there was a time when the Medical Establishment felt that "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" was a fantasy dx; that is until they isolated the causal agent, as a group of viruses with a patient who had a compromised immune system. As someone with chronic fatigue syndrome I find that very interesting.
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 11, 2020 23:41:35 GMT
gozz
Reads like you have forgotten your promise to Admin to stop harassing me. I have nothing to do with your exchange with THE, yet you went out of your way to start all over again, by involving me.
You are a sadist and a trouble maker.
Also Boring.
Since I am merely replying to your posts, it can hardly be seen to be harrassment especially when I am complimenting you on having achieved so many degrees distinctions and careers in your life? BORING
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 11, 2020 23:43:59 GMT
Paul's laugh
Which medical school did you attend? You may have mentioned that on an earlier thread. I don’t claim a medical degree, but I do know how analysis data. And where did you get your degree in English? I said “sounds like,” not it is. So are you saying red, itchy patches on the skin does not sound like a rash to you? If not, I hope your speciality is not dermatology. But seriously, as a physician, you know you must eliminate all simple explanations before any more serious ailment diagnosis is made. Therefore, I hope you would first test any red, itchy skin patches for a common allergy, skin disease, or parasite before jumping to a conclusion that your patient has lupus or worse and then prescribed an unnecessary, expense, ineffective treatment when a Benadryl and topical cream might have cured the issue. If a sore opened up via scratching by fingernails contains cotton fiber, where do you suspect the cotton came from? READS TO ME LIKE YOU ARE PRACTICING MEDICINE SANS LICENSE. THE COTTON? OUTTA YER BUM.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 11, 2020 23:44:18 GMT
Paul's laugh
Which medical school did you attend? You may have mentioned that on an earlier thread. I don’t claim a medical degree, but I do know how analysis data. And where did you get your degree in English? I said “sounds like,” not it is. So are you saying red, itchy patches on the skin does not sound like a rash to you? If not, I hope your speciality is not dermatology. But seriously, as a physician, you know you must eliminate all simple explanations before any more serious ailment diagnosis is made. Therefore, I hope you would first test any red, itchy skin patches for a common allergy, skin disease, or parasite before jumping to a conclusion that your patient has lupus or worse and then prescribed an unnecessary, expense, ineffective treatment when a Benadryl and topical cream might have cured the issue. If a sore opened up via scratching by fingernails contains cotton fiber, where do you suspect the cotton came from? Speaking of English, don't you mean you know how to analyze data? Analyze is the verb. Analysis is the noun.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 11, 2020 23:55:00 GMT
Speaking of English, don't you mean you know how to analyze data? Analyze is the verb. Analysis is the noun. Yes, you are correct, it’s analyze. Fortunately science can be done in almost any language, however it’s the verifiable quantities to be analyzed and not the particular spelling of a word that needs to happen. I know, you hate me because I niggardly lend credence to anecdotal evidence found on wonky websites. I don't hate you. There are a lot of people who aren't my friends, but they're not worthy of hate.
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 12, 2020 0:23:27 GMT
READS TO ME LIKE YOU ARE PRACTICING MEDICINE SANS LICENSE. THE COTTON? OUTTA YER BUM. Why thank you doctor for expert opinion. No problem. In which state do you reside?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 12, 2020 0:41:46 GMT
Really? The friend of mine with the Morgellons is in North Carolina. This may be a rotten thing to say, but I think it would be perfect justice if you came down with it too, and then be told that you have merely a psychosis that makes you claw at your skin until it's raw.
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