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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 18:02:30 GMT
You people are amazing with your insider's knowledge of both BtVS and AtS!
Nile, your juicy anecdotes and scrumptious behind the scenes gossip reveals are fascinating. I had no clue there was so much discord on the show between the actors and show runners.
Do you have any info about what the more adult actors (mainly Anthony Head and Kristine Sutherland) thought about all of the egos, sniping, and cry baby antics?
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Post by NileQT87 on Feb 10, 2017 21:16:49 GMT
Those are pretty well-known anecdotes (there's lots more). And a lot of the stuff I mentioned isn't even disagreements, so much as the fact that everyone had ideas that affected the outcome of different storylines (like where Joss would step in and say he had a better idea than, say, killing Darla in Epiphany because he had come up with another arc). Writers/actors had different preferences or opinions on characters and arcs, who they were actually friends with (and not) and 'ships. SMG being the #1 Bangel, for example, much to the despair of Twitter, Facebook and Reddit users. And she's still a personal friend of David Boreanaz, Seth Green and Michelle Trachtenberg. SMG and DB tweet on birthdays, she lunched on the Bones set during The Crazy Ones, ended up on a pool vacation together with Freddie getting a Bones cameo and were in the tabloids at the time with rumors of them dating. SMG has been friends with Seth since they were small children. Already-a-BtVS-fangirl Michelle got the role of Dawn, who was meant to be around 10 years old (hence the whole weirdness with Dawn being babysat), because of her previous friendship with SMG.
A lot of ideas that were originally planned got changed, sometimes just because a better idea came along or a character was really popular/actor was liked.
As mentioned, characters who were supposed to die early, didn't (Darla, when she was an unnamed character and the original test dummy for the vamp-face makeup, being killed in The Harvest with holy water as in the unaired pilot, Spike with the church organ--hence the wheelchair, Faith was supposed to hang herself and Angel was supposed to stay in hell after being expanded from just a messenger), as well as ones who weren't supposed to return or become big characters, did. I mean, Spike was originally going to have black hair and a Cajun accent, but it was changed last minute. Because of this, Spike's British accent is pretty bizarre in School Hard, but Tony Head took him aside and became his accent coach. Spike and Dru were basically modeled on the Sex Pistols' Sid Vicious and his mentally-ill girlfriend Nancy Spungen (she was stabbed to death and he overdosed before the court trial). You'll note that Gary Oldman's cover of My Way from the film Sid and Nancy plays in Spike's car at the end of Lovers' Walk.
Another nugget concerning initial intentions for plots getting changed was the obvious fact that Doyle was supposed to be Whistler, but Max Perlich wasn't available. However, you can read the original script for City of... where Whistler was written in the part (contains an interesting scene where Angel and Whistler are the only ones to attend Tina's funeral). There was also a script for AtS 1x02 called Corrupt that never made it to air because it was too edgy and dark and was quickly replaced with Lonely Hearts very late. Kate was still a cop, but she was undercover as a druggie prostitute. Angel gets a come-on in one scene. The opening scene from Hero (Cordy videotaping her commercial) was originally in this episode. This was a second time the WB censored something from early AtS (the censored scene of Angel tasting Tina's blood is even briefly in the WB episode trailer!).
I have all the scripts on my computer, F.Y.I, if there's any interest.
There are good stories and bad stories, of course.
One of the saddest has to be the death of Andy Hallett (Lorne), who had a tooth infection around the time of AtS season 5, which went to his heart, weakening it, and he died of heart failure in 2009 at the age of 33. And of course, Glenn Quinn (overdosed on heroin on a friend's couch in 2002 at age 31, which is why Long Day's Journey has an In Loving Memory for him) and Robin Sachs (Ethan Rayne) (2011) are also dead. Glenn had played Becky's boyfriend Mark on Roseanne way back when, which is a show Joss wrote for. There were obvious personal problems there that caused the character to only last 9 episodes. There was some fibbing from the writers at the time that Doyle was always meant to be the Jesse of AtS (a character who is assumed to be a main, but is suddenly killed off), but it came out later that he was coming to set not knowing lines, not showing up and such.
Obviously, one thing comics can do that any attempt at bringing back the shows can't is that actors who are dead can still appear.
And of course, the happiest has to be that Alyson Hannigan and Alexis Denisof are married with two little girls. They married during AtS season 5, which is why Wesley was written out in Lineage and absent during Destiny. I know Tony Head was at their wedding.
One of the cutest bits of trivia was that baby Connor was played by a set of triplets (all can be seen together in the hospital room scene)... Jake, Connor and Trenton Tupen. And yes, that's how the character got his name. Funny thing, but they're now teenagers who have posted on YouTube (in case you didn't feel old).
The only thing I really know about Kristine Sutherland regarding her affecting the show was that her family (she has a daughter) had moved to Italy after season 3, which is why she was mostly absent in season 4 and killed off in season 5 at her request. Likewise, Tony Head was missing his two girls growing up and moved back to England during season 6. His house and horse appear in the scenes with Willow in early season 7. Tony's daughters were supposed to play Giles' immortal great-aunts (Lavinia and Sophronia) in Ripper. Dirty Girls was also intended as a chemistry test for Spike and Faith to be a couple in her spinoff, but Eliza Dushku turned it down to do Tru Calling.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 7:30:51 GMT
gonna be completely honest, i was a kid when the series came out & i had a huge crush on SMG, maybe the only reason i watched this show... but then it kinda grew on me.
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Post by Blue on Feb 12, 2017 5:14:21 GMT
Someone who was a friend of Andy told me it was a drug problem that led to his heart condition
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Post by NileQT87 on Feb 12, 2017 5:36:43 GMT
Are you sure you're not confusing Andy with Glenn? Glenn was definitely drugs (specifically heroin), and indeed, it was hidden for a while at the request of the family with the writers fibbing about Doyle's death until the real cause of death leaked out (it took a few years). On the other hand, the story about Andy has remained consistent over many years that he had a tooth infection around the time AtS ended, the infection had gone to his heart (through the blood) and ended up in the hospital getting surgery, but the damage was done. And how Andy died does indeed happen and rather a specific story.
Here are Christian Kane (who is also a Country singer--David Boreanaz and Christian were already friends prior to AtS) and Andy Hallett duetting on stage together:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 6:29:36 GMT
Great stuff, folks! That is some wonderful background information that you've shared.
Question: Besides David Boreanaz (who, as mentioned earlier, has had a very busy career), would you say has had the most successful acting career post-BtVS and post-AtS?
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Post by Dontrocktheboat on Feb 12, 2017 6:35:52 GMT
Probably Willow. How I met your mother was very popular
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Post by NileQT87 on Feb 12, 2017 7:09:08 GMT
Probably Seth Green, David Boreanaz, Alyson Hannigan and Tony Head in regards to those whose post-Buffy/Angel careers have been the most successful.
Alyson and SMG, however, have both had tabloid pieces on them recently proclaiming that Hollywood won't hire them anymore.
SMG seems content to play homemaker with Freddie and her two kids and is now in the cooking business. The whole thing with SMG and the late Robin Williams in The Crazy Ones as a return to television (she also seemed to hang with DB a lot around that time by going to the Bones set and The Crazy Ones contains several references to him--she also noted that their daughters are about the same age) for both was so, so sad and she was tweeting about him for a long time after he died (Lewy Body Dementia would have killed him even if he hadn't hanged himself, so even if that show had been successful, it couldn't have gone on for much longer). SMG's last pilot (Cruel Intentions) didn't get picked up.
Aly and Alexis have recently sold their Hollywood mansion. The thing with Aly is that she kind of got typecast in cutesy comedy roles (like American Pie) that don't really fit a woman who is now in her 40s. And the career of Alexis Denisof has just been the most disappointing of all, given that he was one of the Jossverse's greatest acting talents. He did end up with Bell's Palsy, though, which affected work on AtS season 5, where they filmed him from only one side of his face because his other side was partly paralyzed, but got better. Joss has hired him for Dollhouse, Much Ado About Nothing and The Avengers (he's behind all those prosthetics as the Other).
Bones, of course, is winding down this season. It'll be interesting to see how fast DB ends up in something else, as he hasn't missed a year as a leading man for the last 20 years. I've heard he's already in talks with Fox.
Seth Green is arguably even better known for all of his comedy films (especially Scott Evil in Austin Powers) and comedy television like Robot Chicken. He's been around for so f-ing long that he was actually in the 1992 Buffy movie in a deleted scene. Alyson and Seth were even in My Stepmother is an Alien as children together. And as I mentioned, SMG and Seth have been friends since childhood. SMG used to be in Burger King commercials in the early '80s.
And Tony Head has been a well-known British character actor for decades now. He was already well-known before BtVS (he was known for Nescafé ads) and has since been in Doctor Who, Merlin, Sweeney Todd and many other things. His brother Murray Head was a hit song recording artist in the '70s and Tony has also done plenty of musical theater (the pictures of him as Rocky Horror's Dr. Frank-n-furter will never die). Indeed, that photo of "Ripper" as a rocker in the '70s is a real one of Tony Head. Sometimes the camera gets close enough to him in BtVS that you can see that he has an ear piercing.
Once Upon a Time (which has Jane Espenson on the writing staff) and Leverage (which had Christian Kane in the cast) both featured a ton of Jossverse actors. Charisma Carpenter's most notable part recently was Scream Queens. Julie Benz has been in a lot of things (Roswell had a ton of Jossverse people, including her), most notably a long-running role on Dexter. James Marsters and Charisma were on the same episode of Supernatural together (the show also has hired a ton of Jossverse people). Amy Acker has had a long, very successful television career, most notably roles on Alias, Once and playing Root on Person of Interest.
Julie Benz, Charisma Carpenter and Clare Kramer (Glory) are all best friends to this day. Charisma and Clare were even bridesmaids at Julie's wedding.
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Post by Blue on Feb 12, 2017 10:58:23 GMT
Are you sure you're not confusing Andy with Glenn? Glenn was definitely drugs (specifically heroin), and indeed, it was hidden for a while at the request of the family with the writers fibbing about Doyle's death until the real cause of death leaked out (it took a few years). On the other hand, the story about Andy has remained consistent over many years that he had a tooth infection around the time AtS ended, the infection had gone to his heart (through the blood) and ended up in the hospital getting surgery, but the damage was done. And how Andy died does indeed happen and rather a specific story. Definitely Andy. My friend (who is now deceased as well--unrelated issue) knew Andy in the later years of AtS and continued to hang out after the show at fan events. My friend told me that Andy had a major drug problem and that's what contributed to his heart failure. Most of them did drugs behind the scenes. Some were just better at hiding it/living functional lives while doing it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 11:16:41 GMT
Probably Willow. How I met your mother was very popular Oh yes, that's true. HIMYM had quite a long run.
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Post by NileQT87 on Feb 13, 2017 4:42:17 GMT
Some more fanvids...
And these are two of my five Jossverse vids that YouTube hasn't blocked (forgive me, these were made in the Windows Movie Maker days):
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Post by ag25 on Feb 14, 2017 7:20:12 GMT
Hello everyone! Long time lurker here.
Regarding what Nile mentioned on the first page about a Buffy/Angel movie/reboot/continuation, it has always been one of my secret fantasies that after David was finished with Bones, an Angel continuation could happen. Now would be a good time with shows like 24, The X-Files, and Gilmore Girls doing it, I see potential for one. I say Angel, because, really, Buffy had it's conclusion, but of course because of the cancelation, Angel, I feel, still doesn't really have closure. Yes, the comics do help with this, but can only do so much. Giving Angel the series closure would be something I would want to see on screen (not that there is anything wrong with the comics (and I am glad that they did write After the Fall to give fans more closure) but I think it would not only give the show closure but the cast and crew closure as well with characters and a story they all had to say goodbye too very quickly).
I don't think it should be a full on show, but just like a mini series with 10-12 episodes to tie everything up. A movie could work too, but they would have more time in a miniseries to develop story arcs and have nice character development. Also, I think it could only work if they were able to at least get the main cast back (David, Charisma, Alexis, J., Amy, and probably James too) and I think Joss would definitely need to be involved some how. Other writers would be good too (like David Fury, Tim Minear, etc.). Of course other Buffyverse characters would be welcome to be involved but I feel that it should focus mainly on Angel and his gang since they are the ones more in need of closure. (How many times can I say closure, lol) Regarding the shipping wars (mainly Buffy/Angel/Spike), I would hope that if a continuation like this were to ever come about it would be wise to leave it all open-ended so that it wouldn't be too contentious for anyone and all would, most likely, enjoy it.
Anyway, that's just my two cents. I know it will never happen, but, hey, I can dream, right? lol. Just wanted to post and contribute to the conversation (and hopefully help get a separate Buffyverse forum). Glad to see lots of familiar names/posters from the imdb boards I have lurked on for so long, lol!
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Post by NileQT87 on Feb 14, 2017 8:26:31 GMT
Welcome to the party! We can use all the chatter we can get.
I think there are some interesting ways you could explain the aging and have it work perfectly (Wolfram & Hart holding dimension + Shanshu or Fray's timeline + Shanshu). As much as I want an AtS revival (I just can't see the value in a BtVS revival without the vampires), I do think that wrapping up Buffy's story with the triangle, or possibly doing something that is pretty much the polar opposite of the comics like making her a mother just to change the whole direction of the way the franchise is going, would be revitalizing to the property and would probably get the project green lit. Buffy is heading for 40 and the revival would need to acknowledge that (well, Buffy is slightly younger than SMG). One thing is for certain, the franchise needs a desperate kick up its backside. Character assassinating Angel repeatedly (the real Angel of the series is self-sacrificial to a fault, always giving up his own happiness for others, and would NEVER be selfish or stupid enough for season 8) to service Spuffy is complete bullshit and that's what the comics did.
Having a writer on board like Tim Minear or David Greenwalt who actually likes Angel would be massively helpful to offset Joss Whedon's massive stick up his ass about attractive, straight, white male heroes, which he has pretty much explained as his problem with the character (sorry, but it's true and Joss has agenda problems that make him in charge of his franchise a big problem now in a way that was offset decades ago by other factors). Joss has also said some pretty demeaning crap to James Marsters about having it easy because of his looks, to the point where James thought Joss hated him (this is right out of an interview). And he did the same to David with not wanting to hire him and David's traditional-hero looks being part of what he criticizes Angel for, needing to constantly tear him down in order to understand him (which, done correctly, ironically makes him one of the best-written characters because he isn't given favoritism armor with endless free passes and pays for his mistakes tenfold). Joss also has a stick up his butt about being bullied by jocks in school (his issues with traditionally masculine heroes were on full display in Dr. Horrible), which, well... Have you seen David's sports-obsessed Twitter?
Joss seems to prefer Spuffy largely because Spike is easier for him to write. I fear that if he were to be put in charge of Angel, you'd either see him vilified or turned into dork!Angel who is the butt of all jokes. When he did write for AtS, it was usually for one of his pet favorites like Amy Acker or a gimmick. The one-sidedness with 'ship preference is not benefiting the franchise, though. Chosen and AtS season 5 were so careful to keep Spike and Angel on equal footing and have Buffy ending up with neither. I also can't see SMG wanting to come back for part of why she left and a direction she wasn't into (she began having disagreements with Joss in season 4 with Parker and really was unhappy about season 6 with the sexcapades and degradation--James was also very unhappy about being exploited and threatened to quit over the AR). SMG has always wanted Buffy to be a role model (which she believed was being ruined in the later seasons) and I think that's the only way she'd be happy about returning. And I'd be insulted if DB were brought back just to play out more of Joss' personal problems.
Unfortunately, I see this as the reason why the show is unlikely to be brought back. Mutant Enemy would have to balance out the favoritism towards each of the various characters, and I think the AtS all-star writers like Tim Minear would be needed to write the AtS characters as they were in AtS and not just through the BtVS-only lens where 5 years of character development suddenly is forgotten. And I really am not into watching a revival that follows the comics where it's all about Buffy with her Potentials-turned-Slayers, Spike being insecure and Andrew as the lame sidekick vs. Harmony. I'd want an dramatic epic conclusion worthy of following Not Fade Away that deals with the more serious characters being treated respectfully in meaningful arcs, not lightweight cream puff stuff (it's not an episode of Friends) and silly big-budget gimmicks just because they can.
And sorry, I hope that rant doesn't scare anyone. I really do love this franchise, but see it needing a lot of help to get it back on track.
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Feb 14, 2017 9:13:38 GMT
The problem with vampires is that they don't age and the actors do. They got away with it in their original run, but they have aged a lot at this point. It would be very weird.
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Post by NileQT87 on Feb 14, 2017 10:38:22 GMT
Though I must say that I agree with AtS being the storyline that has the most hope of making a decent continuing plot. Not Fade Away is widely considered and often included on lists of the greatest series finales. Chosen is usually nowhere near such lists, despite being the more well-known show (season 7 usually ranks dead last in a near majority of fan season rankings--the Potentials killed the season dead after a decent start).
And the one Big Bad that has not been defeated is Wolfram & Hart. That foe is interesting enough (and then some) to use for a miniseries.
When everyone was hoping for what they most wanted to see if the shows returned or ideas for comics before they happened, everybody wanted to know about what came after Not Fade Away.
AtS season 5 happened to tell us things about the Scoobies that were not good signs.
The Slayer spell was already on morally dodgy ground after Buffy learned of the Slayer's origins in Get It Done where she basically accused the Shadow Men of being rapists for imbuing Sineya with a demon essence against her will. Buffy had struggled for 7 years with a calling she didn't ask for and didn't always want, knowing that it would most likely result in her early death just like all the other girls who never made it past 25 and endless heartbreak. Buffy and Willow did the same thing the Shadow Men did to thousands of girls. And given that Buffy and co. only survived their battle because Lilah Morgan (who writes off Buffy completely) handed over a shiny bauble to Angel to save the day (either Lindsey hoped to trap Spike, given that he's hinted to have dug up the bauble and mail it--Eve hints this, or the First Evil's apocalypse had a scheduling conflict with W&H's). Buffy's Slayer army accomplished nothing but getting Amanda and Anya killed when all you needed was Spike to wear a necklace. Buffy should have been writing thank you letters to Angel and W&H for saving her ass because she didn't have a plan other than make Slayers and have Angel set up the second front when she had no way to win inside the Hellmouth.
Damage showed that the Slayer calling spell was indiscriminate and turned mentally-unstable girls like Dana into super-powered monsters (this flaw was foreseeable if Buffy had ever bothered to look over her shoulder at Faith). And if there's anyone capable of handling a rogue Slayer, Angel would be the one who actually got through to and saved Faith when Buffy had long given up on her. Andrew pretty much betrayed Angel after using him to get Dana, then threw Buffy in his face. Then, we have Angel on the phone to Giles (and this can't be written off as Andrew telling stupid stories) trying to save Fred's life from Illyria, only to be rejected because of W&H (and nobody bothering to ask why he was there--it was to save Connor's life). Giles refused to help Fred, which is pretty damning. Don't you think that's worthy of coming up again? Then, of course, you have Andrew playing games with Spike and Angel in Rome. The implication at the time was that Buffy was dating the Immortal, who had previously slept with soulless Darla and Drusilla to play petty, immature games, and who was still playing games with the good versions of Angel and Spike a century later while not being someone you could call good or reformed, which reflected really poorly on Buffy. The comics wrote off this incident as having that Buffy be a decoy with Andrew telling lots of lies that Buffy had no idea of.
However, for several years, it was an honest belief in the fandom that something was really wrong at Scooby Central with these events and Angel ultimately proved he was still on a noble path to take on W&H, despite his self-doubt being preyed upon and the cost of many of his friends. The fact that Connor was at the root of his reason to be at W&H was a key piece of missing information, but it doesn't make any sense for Buffy to suddenly assume Angel is evil without asking him, visiting him or knowing anything about what he was doing. Some of the Scoobies might jump to that conclusion, but not Buffy. And she had just seen him. And what does season 8 do? It acts like everyone already knew about Connor without ever being told on screen. You'd think that would be a revelation that could be mined for drama, seeing as one of the major reasons Angel left was because he couldn't have kids.
One of the things that Cordy fans are still upset about regarding season 8 is the line where Buffy is reassuring Willow that one day Cordy will be dead, given that Buffy had no idea of Cordy's growth. That's just one of many moments in those comics that are quite a case of WTF?
But yeah, in a continuation, go back to what everyone was expecting... What happened after W&H unleashed its demonic hordes? Where were the Scoobies? Start there, rather than ignoring the aftermath of Not Fade Away. Yes, you need to time-jump the vampires way forward to explain a 47-year-old David Boreanaz and a 54-year-old James Marsters. But you have the greatest gift in them having been at the mercy of W&H when they were last seen. Illyria can still be Illyria (if anyone hasn't aged, it's Amy). Gunn doesn't have to be in it, given that he was half-dead already (depending on how far you want to whittle down the cast). Wesley could still very easily act as an undead liaison under the perpetuity clause for W&H and it would be a perfect way of using Alexis.
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Post by ag25 on Feb 15, 2017 1:09:33 GMT
I agree with most of what you have said Nile. I understand your concerns and I agree for the most part, but I liked that Chosen and Angel S5 left the love triangle open for the fans. I love the idea of Buffy being a mother! I think it would be awesome and show character growth and be relatable to the present. Yet I still think it would cause problems as to who the father would be, so how to keep that neutral I have no idea, but having Buffy as a mother and still being a Slayer would put her back as a role model and expand upon her taking care of Dawn and build upon the brief Nikki and Robin mother-son relationship we saw.
Yes, I understand your concerns with Joss in an Angel revival, and Tim Minear and/or David Greenwalt (can't believe I forgot to include him in my last post; he is one of my favorite writers, as well as Tim!) would be essential to it as well. Although, I still think Joss should be involved to some degree because after all he is the creator of both shows and does have some good ideas (and, even though I hate to bring it up, he is a more well-known director/writer now to the general audience since The Avengers, and I can't help but think that that would help an Angel/Buffy revival with promotion/publicity).
While Buffy S7 definitely had problems, it still did end on a good note with quite a few possibilities for the future (I admit I am one of those people who never wants anyone to die and have it all end happily ever after, lol, but when it comes to Buffy and Angel, I am flexible), while Angel S5 also had it's problems and good points, and yes I understand why people love it as a series finale (I even agree with some points), it still just ultimately bothers me as a series finale because they basically got rid of most of or half of their cast and did not give any closure (or very little) in my opinion. It just never sat right with me that the series ended with the Wolfram & Hart storyline. I feel if it at least had one more season to circle back to the beginning then it would have felt more complete. I agree that the one big bad that has not been defeated is Wolfram & Hart and that would need to be addressed. And they would need to find a way to reconcile the Fang Gang and the Scoobies since Angel S5 was hard on them. I still think the Angel cast should be front and center but definitely the Buffy cast as strong secondary characters, and get them back to working as a team (kind of like in Buffy S3 except better).
"Unfortunately, I see this as the reason why the show is unlikely to be brought back. Mutant Enemy would have to balance out the favoritism towards each of the various characters, and I think the AtS all-star writers like Tim Minear would be needed to write the AtS characters as they were in AtS and not just through the BtVS-only lens where 5 years of character development suddenly is forgotten. And I really am not into watching a revival that follows the comics where it's all about Buffy with her Potentials-turned-Slayers, Spike being insecure and Andrew as the lame sidekick vs. Harmony. I'd want an dramatic epic conclusion worthy of following Not Fade Away that deals with the more serious characters being treated respectfully in meaningful arcs, not lightweight cream puff stuff (it's not an episode of Friends) and silly big-budget gimmicks just because they can."
"But yeah, in a continuation, go back to what everyone was expecting... What happened after W&H unleashed its demonic hordes? Where were the Scoobies? Start there, rather than ignoring the aftermath of Not Fade Away. Yes, you need to time-jump the vampires way forward to explain a 47-year-old David Boreanaz and a 54-year-old James Marsters."
I couldn't agree more with this^ Nile. I feel like they would have to do this as well as some other things to make it believable and great.
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Post by NileQT87 on Feb 15, 2017 5:59:02 GMT
Glad we're pretty much on the same page! And yep, I pretty much agree with everything there.
The whole continuation needs a big, fat redo. In that sense, I'm actually hoping for a revival just to cancel out the nonsense we've been left with. But it would have to include massive changes of the type I pointed out to actually make the whole thing worthwhile and make it feel like a natural continuation of the same shows we all know and love.
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Post by mmexis on Feb 15, 2017 17:28:12 GMT
I don't know that we can even HAVE a viable revival/reboot/continuation while people are still so invested in the original show. There will be constant comparisons and people will be disappointed. I always find it interesting how little the movie is talked about. It's cheesy, yes, but it's meant to be. The TV show seems to exist in its own bubble. The other problem that I see is that the actors were quite young when the show was on the air, and so we all have this desire to see the actors revisit their original roles. As was pointed out, vampires don't age which makes DB and JM reprising their roles quite difficult. Of course, with all the CGI and other computer effects now available, it doesn't quite make it impossible....
IIRC, there seem to be some issues with the Kazuis as well. I can't remember where I read this recently.
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Feb 15, 2017 18:06:26 GMT
I really liked the movie when I saw it(I still like it), before there was a tv show called Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It was cheesy, but I like cheese. I always wanted a visit from Pike on the show. I always thought the menstrual cramps alert was a bit stupid though. I mean, who can fight when you are cramping up so much?
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Post by ag25 on Feb 15, 2017 23:24:04 GMT
I don't know that we can even HAVE a viable revival/reboot/continuation while people are still so invested in the original show. There will be constant comparisons and people will be disappointed. I always find it interesting how little the movie is talked about. It's cheesy, yes, but it's meant to be. The TV show seems to exist in its own bubble. The other problem that I see is that the actors were quite young when the show was on the air, and so we all have this desire to see the actors revisit their original roles. As was pointed out, vampires don't age which makes DB and JM reprising their roles quite difficult. Of course, with all the CGI and other computer effects now available, it doesn't quite make it impossible.... IIRC, there seem to be some issues with the Kazuis as well. I can't remember where I read this recently. Yeah, I know and agree it would be hard for it to work and be successful. But then I look at the 24, The X-Files, and Gilmore Girls revivals, and they give me hope, lol. And an Angel/Buffy would have its own challenges that the others do not. I know it will probably never happen, and I am content to re-watch, enjoy, and discuss the 2 wonderful shows we already have!
@nile, I agree.
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