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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 8, 2020 3:43:03 GMT
Nothing about Endgame qualifies it for Best Picture imo. Would you say the same thing about Mad Max: Fury Road? No, but Mad Max was a better made and directed movie imo.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 8, 2020 3:46:50 GMT
Would you say the same thing about Mad Max: Fury Road? No, but Mad Max was a better made and directed movie imo. Okay, so you aren't just talking about the type of movie it is. I made the wrong assumption.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 8, 2020 3:58:36 GMT
Hope not! It was a terrible, bland and bombastic experience.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 8, 2020 4:22:16 GMT
No, but Mad Max was a better made and directed movie imo. Okay, so you aren't just talking about the type of movie it is. I made the wrong assumption. Not at all. I think the movie is a fantastic, and perhaps even perfected, version of the 20+ movies before it. Ironically, that also makes it derivative but in the best ways for fans. The callbacks and easter eggs were highlights that Academy voters would have no reason to even notice, much less acknowledge with an award.
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Post by Vits on Jan 8, 2020 10:14:22 GMT
DC-Fan BLACK PANTHER got nominated in several other ceremonies. That means different voters. Also, by your logic, wouldn't BLADE, SPAWN and METEOR MAN have been nominated as well? Actually, B.P. came out the same year CRAZY RICH ASIANS, which many said had the same kind of impact. How many nominations did it get again?
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 8, 2020 10:30:29 GMT
Infinity War was better IMO and it didn't get the best picture nomination.
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Post by dazz on Jan 8, 2020 10:33:15 GMT
the first major near all black production mega blockbuster
And you've just confirmed that Academy nominated Black Panther for a Best Picture Oscar because they were afraid of being labeled racist if they didn't nominated Black Panther. politicidal keeps trying to argue "Well, Green Book, BlacKKKlansman, and Roma were already nominated". But Green Book, BlacKKKlansman, and Roma weren't the "first major near all black production mega blockbuster" that you just cited Black Panther as. The Academy would've been labeled racist if they didn't nominate Black Panther regardless of the nominations for Green Book, BlacKKKlansman, and Roma because Black Panther was the high-profile movie, the "first major near all black production mega blockbuster" that you cited Black Panther as. That's why the Academy had to nominated Black Panther. Because the Academy knew they would be labeled racist if they didn't nominate Black Panther for a Best Picture Oscar. Heck, just look at what happened with the Iranian general who was just killed. Colin Kaepernick tweets his usual BS that the killing of the Iranian general was a racist attack by American imperialists against non-white people, Megyn Kelly calls out Kaepernick's tweet for the BS that it is, and then another black actress once again accuses Megyn Kelly of being racist. That's what the Academy was afraid of if they didn't nominate Black Panther and that's why the Academy has to nominate Black Panther. Black Panther's nomination was solely because of the race card and had nothing to do with merit. Nope I did no such thing, once again you prove yourself to be a retard, well done.
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Post by kevin on Jan 8, 2020 11:11:44 GMT
No, it's not even in the top 15 in terms of Oscar chances. Especially with Joker almost certainly getting a nom, I'd say that the chances of Endgame also getting a nom are nearly 0%. I'd even see a movie like Waves or Portrait of a Lady on Fire getting a nom before Endgame and even those movies have virtually no chance.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 8, 2020 12:15:16 GMT
Mad Max Appreciation  |
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jan 8, 2020 12:32:24 GMT
Black Panther got an Oscar nomination for Best Picture because the Academy was afraid of being labeled racist if they didn't nominate Black Panther. So if Joker receives an Oscar nomination for Best Picture, Joker will be the 1st CBM to receive an Oscar nomination for Best Picture based solely on merit and not on the use of any race card. Is that the same reason they nominated Green Book, BlacKKKlansman, and Roma for Best Picture too?  Shhh! You're disrupting the narrative! |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 8, 2020 15:48:10 GMT
DC-Fan BLACK PANTHER got nominated in several other ceremonies. That means different voters. You think it's just Academy voters who are afraid of being accused of being racist? All the voters in all the ceremonies (Oscars, Golden Globes, etc.) don't want to be accused of being racist. Heck, no one in any profession wants to be accused of being racist. The NBA forced out an owner because he made racist remarks. Racism is a stigma that no one wants to be associated with. The awards voters were all afraid of being accused of being racist and that's why they nominated Black Panther. Also, by your logic, wouldn't BLADE, SPAWN and METEOR MAN have been nominated as well? As dazz wrote above, Black Panther was the "first major near all black production mega blockbuster". Blade, Spawn, and Meteor Man weren't big-budget mega blockbuster movies so not too many people other than die-hard CBM fans had heard of those movies. But Black Panther was a big-budget mega blockbuster movie so the Academy had to nominate it or the Academy would've been accused of being racist. B.P. came out the same year CRAZY RICH ASIANS, which many said had the same kind of impact. How many nominations did it get again? Crazy Rich Asians wasn't the first all-Asian or mostly Asian mega production. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon was released in 2000 and that received several Oscar nominations, including Best Picture. So that territory had already been covered.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 8, 2020 15:52:16 GMT
Is that the same reason they nominated Green Book, BlacKKKlansman, and Roma for Best Picture too? Shhh! You're disrupting the narrative! No, he's not disrupting anything. As dazz wrote above, Black Panther was the "first major near all black production mega blockbuster". The Academy would've been labeled racist if they didn't nominate Black Panther regardless of the nominations for Green Book, BlacKKKlansman, and Roma because Black Panther was the high-profile movie, the "first major near all black production mega blockbuster". That's why the Academy had to nominated Black Panther. Because the Academy knew they would be labeled racist if they didn't nominate Black Panther for a Best Picture Oscar. Heck, just look at what happened with the Iranian general who was just killed. Colin Kaepernick tweets his usual BS that the killing of the Iranian general was a racist attack by American imperialists against non-white people, Megyn Kelly calls out Kaepernick's tweet for the BS that it is, and then another black actress once again accuses Megyn Kelly of being racist. Also, the night Trump won the election over Hillary, a CNN analyst claimed Trump won because the election was a whitelashing by whites to get back at blacks for voting in Obama in 2008. Once again, liberals used the race card. That's what the Academy was afraid of if they didn't nominate Black Panther and that's why the Academy has to nominate Black Panther. Black Panther's nomination was solely because of the race card and had nothing to do with merit.
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Post by dazz on Jan 8, 2020 16:24:28 GMT
DC-Fan if you ever needlessly tag me in your bullshit again I will rip that miniscule and pathetic excuse you call your genitalia off of your body and proceed to beat you to fucking death with the wet end, you understand me? Good!  No but seriously never tag me in this bullshit again for no reason ok. Also IF BP only got the votes due to fear of racism backlash then WHY THE FUCK DIDNT IT WIN?!?!?!?! It is a fucking blind ballot you cock schlepping numpty, just how did BP only get votes to be nominated but not to win, surely not awarding it with the Oscar would also have elicited backlash right? you shit gobbling troll.
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Post by sostie on Jan 8, 2020 16:47:50 GMT
It's odd that Black Panther's nomination rankles DC-Fan so much, yet not so much when his favourite films are voted.
Black Panther gets a Best picture nod. A choice voted for ANONYMOUSLY by over 7000 people from every area in the business, from an initial choice of every film released that year. Of course that is the result of some sort corruption, influence and a race card.
However, Joker winning the Golden Lion in Venice is a major achievement, despite it being from a choice of about 20 films put forward by studios to appear at the festival and it being voted by a named jury of seven people!
Joker wins a Golden Globe and it is celebrated...an award with a reputation of being influenced from the outside..and voted by only about 90 critics.
Now even someone with a modicum of understanding can see which of those three awards would be the most difficult to influence a vote for. And which would be easiest to influence. But of course that doesn't matter...it's whatever film he does or doesn't like that decides what is worthy of an award or nom. If he likes the film it's on merit. If he doesn't like the film or franchise it's corruption or a race card. What a child.
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Post by James Bond on Jan 8, 2020 23:44:30 GMT
god, I hope not.
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Post by poes on Jan 14, 2020 18:22:05 GMT
yes!!!!!!! One nomination lol.
And it can forget about visual effects since no movie since Death becomes her has one in that category with only ONE nomination.
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Post by poes on Jan 14, 2020 18:37:14 GMT
Lol ONEnomination for the HIGHEST GROSSING MOVIE OF ALL TIME.
lets see; Previous highest grossing movie of all time (avatar) 9 noms
Before that Titanic 14 Noms
Before that Jurassic park ( 3 noms)
Way to go Academy! Any one of these 3 movies are way better than any marvel shit show!
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Post by nostromo on Jan 15, 2020 13:21:41 GMT
Lol ONEnomination for the HIGHEST GROSSING MOVIE OF ALL TIME. That just means loads of people went to see it. Not that it was any good. Justin Bieber sells loads of records. Doesn't mean he makes the best music.
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Post by dazz on Jan 15, 2020 14:10:46 GMT
Lol ONEnomination for the HIGHEST GROSSING MOVIE OF ALL TIME. That just means loads of people went to see it. Not that it was any good. Justin Bieber sells loads of records. Doesn't mean he makes the best music. And it's also the Academy Awards who are constantly criticised due to their ignorant and limited perspective on what is an award worthy movie, whilst Endgame did win numerous awards across many respected awarding bodies, as well as a ton of other noms.
One funny thing is the Oscars are just so odd in how they do things, they don't even use the 10 most voted on films for BP, you not only have to be one of the top 10 but meet a % to qualify, something people even in the industry don't seem to get hence the annual why didn't they use all 10 slots? as if it's a single person or committee conversing to choose the picks, but this means all of 7 films can be nominated for meeting the threshold buy only barely whilst 8 more films all get snubbed because they are 1-20 nominations outside of the arbitrary number.
Awards don't mean they are the best either, it's just a thing of subjective taste, in this case the taste of 6000 Hollywood types...or their assistance in some cases when they are too lazy to do it themselves...who voted on a bunch of movies, 6000 people who still average as being retiree aged white men, so take their merit with a grain of salt.
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Post by nostromo on Jan 15, 2020 14:41:59 GMT
Do you remember the year Melissa Leo took out her own adverts in Hollywood magazines pleading for academy voters to vote for her. It worked though.
Murky, diabolical stuff.
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