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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 10, 2020 22:29:15 GMT
Has anybody here seen in yet?
Don't see how it doesn't at least win best cinematography.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 10, 2020 22:39:07 GMT
Nah. Doesn’t really appeal to me tbh.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 10, 2020 22:40:06 GMT
Nah. Doesn’t really appeal to me tbh. Do you not like war movies as a whole? Actually, do you like any movie post 1955?
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 10, 2020 22:42:51 GMT
Nah. Doesn’t really appeal to me tbh. Do you not like war movies as a whole? Actually, do you like any movie post 1955?  War movies aren’t a favourite genre, I must admit. I liked Paths of Glory! That was 1957!
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 10, 2020 23:24:49 GMT
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Post by MrFurious on Jan 11, 2020 9:24:52 GMT
Funny how this has come out and taken all the Oscar buzz away from The Irishman/OUaTiHollywood. Scorsese is cool but I'd love to know how Tarantino feels. |
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Post by WullieFort on Jan 11, 2020 10:28:12 GMT
Some people think that the movies by Scorcese and Tarantino were "made to order" for the awards season
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jan 11, 2020 11:11:40 GMT
I saw it last night. Phenomenal piece of filmmaking. The definitive WWI movie. I haven't seen 'The Irishman' yet but I can't imagine that anyone other than Sam Mendes will win at the very least the Best Director Oscar.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 13, 2020 13:17:02 GMT
Outstanding film; edited in a way to make it feel like one long take, which adds to the palpable tension. I wouldn't call it the definitive WWI movie, but it's an excellent viewing experience.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 13, 2020 14:09:13 GMT
Outstanding film; edited in a way to make it feel like one long take, which adds to the palpable tension. I wouldn't call it the definitive WWI movie, but it's an excellent viewing experience. So what is the definitive WWI movie? It's an interesting discussion because all time great films like Paths of Glory or Grand Illusion can be definitive in their respective sub genres like 'war room drama' or POW drama, while Lawrence of Arabia can even be considered the definitive epic, all around. But none of those deals with what we think of as WWI combat, i.e. trench warfare in Europe. So what takes that mantle? A Farewell to Arms? The book is pribably more significant than the film. All Quiet on the Western Front, maybe? The Peter Jackson documentary (that was just robbed of an Oscar nomination) They Shall Not Grow Old is a pretty amazing piece of filmmaking. It's comprised of recovered, restored, and also remastered WWI footage with archived interviews from actual WWI soldiers used as voice over to narrate the day to day life of British soldiers as they live in Englad, then enlist, then get introduced into the army, then go through the monotony and boredom of a soldier's life, then ultimately face combat, and come home. The footage is colorized, and run through a program that takes the silent film footage and plays it back at the correct 24 fps speed (Jackson learned that 48fps isn't better, I guess) and fills in the gaps that the off-speed footage left. The result isn't completely perfect, but between that, the top notch added foley sound effects, and the fact that they hired lip readers to figure out what the soldiers were saying and hired actors speak that dialogue... it all brings that history to life pretty astoundingly. It's well worth a watch. As is the making-of documentary that accompanies it. I saw it in a theater and they played both together, but I'm not sure if the behind the scenes piece is readily available. Anyway... I haven't seen 1917 yet, but I'm certainly looking forward to it. |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 13, 2020 14:23:52 GMT
Funny how this has come out and taken all the Oscar buzz away from The Irishman/OUaTiHollywood. Scorsese is cool but I'd love to know how Tarantino feels. I watched OUATIH the other day. What is the fuss about? It was OK but nothing special. Last 20 minutes were cringeworthy.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 13, 2020 14:41:11 GMT
Outstanding film; edited in a way to make it feel like one long take, which adds to the palpable tension. I wouldn't call it the definitive WWI movie, but it's an excellent viewing experience. So what is the definitive WWI movie? It's an interesting discussion because all time great films like Paths of Glory or Grand Illusion can be definitive in their respective sub genres like 'war room drama' or POW drama, while Lawrence of Arabia can even be considered the definitive epic, all around. But none of those deals with what we think of as WWI combat, i.e. trench warfare in Europe. So what takes that mantle? A Farewell to Arms? The book is pribably more significant than the film. All Quiet on the Western Front, maybe? The Peter Jackson documentary (that was just robbed of an Oscar nomination) They Shall Not Grow Old is a pretty amazing piece of filmmaking. It's comprised of recovered, restored, and also remastered WWI footage with archived interviews from actual WWI soldiers used as voice over to narrate the day to day life of British soldiers as they live in Englad, then enlist, then get introduced into the army, then go through the monotony and boredom of a soldier's life, then ultimately face combat, and come home. The footage is colorized, and run through a program that takes the silent film footage and plays it back at the correct 24 fps speed (Jackson learned that 48fps isn't better, I guess) and fills in the gaps that the off-speed footage left. The result isn't completely perfect, but between that, the top notch added foley sound effects, and the fact that they hired lip readers to figure out what the soldiers were saying and hired actors speak that dialogue... it all brings that history to life pretty astoundingly. It's well worth a watch. As is the making-of documentary that accompanies it. I saw it in a theater and they played both together, but I'm not sure if the behind the scenes piece is readily available. Anyway... I haven't seen 1917 yet, but I'm certainly looking forward to it. There were points where my ears couldn't keep up with They Shall Not Grow Old (combination of certain accents and the battle sounds underneath the dialogue), but it otherwise was mesmerizing. It absolutely should be on the short list of definitive WWI films.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 13, 2020 14:43:24 GMT
Outstanding film; edited in a way to make it feel like one long take, which adds to the palpable tension. I wouldn't call it the definitive WWI movie, but it's an excellent viewing experience. So what is the definitive WWI movie? It's an interesting discussion because all time great films like Paths of Glory or Grand Illusion can be definitive in their respective sub genres like 'war room drama' or POW drama, while Lawrence of Arabia can even be considered the definitive epic, all around. But none of those deals with what we think of as WWI combat, i.e. trench warfare in Europe. So what takes that mantle? A Farewell to Arms? The book is pribably more significant than the film. All Quiet on the Western Front, maybe? The Peter Jackson documentary (that was just robbed of an Oscar nomination) They Shall Not Grow Old is a pretty amazing piece of filmmaking. It's comprised of recovered, restored, and also remastered WWI footage with archived interviews from actual WWI soldiers used as voice over to narrate the day to day life of British soldiers as they live in Englad, then enlist, then get introduced into the army, then go through the monotony and boredom of a soldier's life, then ultimately face combat, and come home. The footage is colorized, and run through a program that takes the silent film footage and plays it back at the correct 24 fps speed (Jackson learned that 48fps isn't better, I guess) and fills in the gaps that the off-speed footage left. The result isn't completely perfect, but between that, the top notch added foley sound effects, and the fact that they hired lip readers to figure out what the soldiers were saying and hired actors speak that dialogue... it all brings that history to life pretty astoundingly. It's well worth a watch. As is the making-of documentary that accompanies it. I saw it in a theater and they played both together, but I'm not sure if the behind the scenes piece is readily available. Anyway... I haven't seen 1917 yet, but I'm certainly looking forward to it. They Shall Not Grow Old was fantastic. It's a doc but it may be the definitive piece because it really gives you a window to so many aspects of the war. Saw it in the theater and everyone in the audience stuck around to watch the making of; it's the kind of film where anyone who bothers watching it in the theater is going to want to see the special features as it were. I didn't mean to open the 'definitive' can of worms, I just saw the poster before me call it the definitive WWI flick and I disagreed. 1917 is hyper focused on one particular story which gives you a sense of the horror, but doesn't give a broader context of the experience. (I could say a lot more here, but I'll wait for you to see it and we can discuss further.)
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 13, 2020 15:01:23 GMT
So what is the definitive WWI movie? It's an interesting discussion because all time great films like Paths of Glory or Grand Illusion can be definitive in their respective sub genres like 'war room drama' or POW drama, while Lawrence of Arabia can even be considered the definitive epic, all around. But none of those deals with what we think of as WWI combat, i.e. trench warfare in Europe. So what takes that mantle? A Farewell to Arms? The book is pribably more significant than the film. All Quiet on the Western Front, maybe? The Peter Jackson documentary (that was just robbed of an Oscar nomination) They Shall Not Grow Old is a pretty amazing piece of filmmaking. It's comprised of recovered, restored, and also remastered WWI footage with archived interviews from actual WWI soldiers used as voice over to narrate the day to day life of British soldiers as they live in Englad, then enlist, then get introduced into the army, then go through the monotony and boredom of a soldier's life, then ultimately face combat, and come home. The footage is colorized, and run through a program that takes the silent film footage and plays it back at the correct 24 fps speed (Jackson learned that 48fps isn't better, I guess) and fills in the gaps that the off-speed footage left. The result isn't completely perfect, but between that, the top notch added foley sound effects, and the fact that they hired lip readers to figure out what the soldiers were saying and hired actors speak that dialogue... it all brings that history to life pretty astoundingly. It's well worth a watch. As is the making-of documentary that accompanies it. I saw it in a theater and they played both together, but I'm not sure if the behind the scenes piece is readily available. Anyway... I haven't seen 1917 yet, but I'm certainly looking forward to it. They Shall Not Grow Old was fantastic. It's a doc but it may be the definitive piece because it really gives you a window to so many aspects of the war. Saw it in the theater and everyone in the audience stuck around to watch the making of; it's the kind of film where anyone who bothers watching it in the theater is going to want to see the special features as it were. I didn't mean to open the 'definitive' can of worms, I just saw the poster before me call it the definitive WWI flick and I disagreed. 1917 is hyper focused on one particular story which gives you a sense of the horror, but doesn't give a broader context of the experience. (I could say a lot more here, but I'll wait for you to see it and we can discuss further.) I wasn't calling you out on the definitive WWI movie thing, I just thought that was an interesting topic also. There seem to be so many WWII movies, but WWI doesn't have as many great ones and the great movies set around the war don't deal directly with the combat, so it complicates it a bit. But I think I'll take your advice and wait to see the movie before I broach the subject again. That should be in the next few days. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 13, 2020 15:09:28 GMT
They Shall Not Grow Old was fantastic. It's a doc but it may be the definitive piece because it really gives you a window to so many aspects of the war. Saw it in the theater and everyone in the audience stuck around to watch the making of; it's the kind of film where anyone who bothers watching it in the theater is going to want to see the special features as it were. I didn't mean to open the 'definitive' can of worms, I just saw the poster before me call it the definitive WWI flick and I disagreed. 1917 is hyper focused on one particular story which gives you a sense of the horror, but doesn't give a broader context of the experience. (I could say a lot more here, but I'll wait for you to see it and we can discuss further.) I wasn't calling you out on the definitive WWI movie thing, I just thought that was an interesting topic also. There seem to be so many WWII movies, but WWI doesn't have as many great ones and the great movies set around the war don't deal directly with the combat, so it complicates it a bit. But I think I'll take your advice and wait to see the movie before I broach the subject again. That should be in the next few days. There's a made for tv movie, The Lost Battalion, which is surprisingly good considering the production value. Based on a true story of American forces who were surrounded by the Germans in the Argonne. I wouldn't want to oversell it, it is a tv movie after all. But for what it is, it's better than average.
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