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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 13, 2020 14:28:37 GMT
I haven't seen Little Women yet, but I'm sure she wouldn't be able to handle a film like Ford vs Ferrari, but James Mangold, who is long overdue for directing Oscar recognition, could do her film in a breeze. He is a very versatile director I find and always delivers.
And I'm sure many thought she wouldn't able to handle a period piece after only directing indie dramedies, but she nailed it. Why do you bother saying all that before watching LITTLE WOMEN? Your comments are so specific that feel more like prejudice than assumptions. The difference is that you're coming off as someone who makes up his mind and watching the movie won't change it. I hope that's not the case. By the way, I felt FORD V FERRARI excelled in acting, editing and sound, but not so much in directing, writing or cinematography, so I also would've nominated Greta over James. Surely a best picture movie has to also be directed very well? Yes, and also well-written, but a movie may excel on one side more than the other. I don't doubt that Gerwig would have directed her film well and I like period films, but like another posted has already commented, it would be difficult to see her film being better directed than the others. She was also not that original in a timeworn tale that is the 4th remake. This would have likely been a deciding factor too and I am confident in my own insight and understanding.
I think FvF was so well directed, that it comes across as so fluid, skilled and immersed in the approach, that like like some acting performances, one can forget that they are acting.
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Post by kevin on Jan 13, 2020 14:30:27 GMT
Full list of nominees:
Best picture
“Ford v. Ferrari”
“The Irishman”
“Jojo Rabbit”
“Joker”
“Little Women”
“Marriage Story”
“1917”
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
“Parasite”
Achievement in directing
Martin Scorsese, “The Irishman”
Todd Phillips, “Joker”
Sam Mendes, “1917”
Quentin Tarantino, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Bong Joon Ho, “Parasite”
Performance by an actress in a leading role
Cynthia Erivo, “Harriet”
Scarlett Johansson, “Marriage Story”
Saoirse Ronan, “Little Women”
Charlize Theron, “Bombshell”
Renee Zellweger, “Judy”
Performance by an actor in a leading role
Antonio Banderas, “Pain and Glory”
Leonardo DiCaprio, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Adam Driver, “Marriage Story”
Joaquin Phoenix, “Joker”
Jonathan Pryce, “The Two Popes”
Best original screenplay
Rian Johnson, “Knives Out”
Noah Baumbach, “Marriage Story”
Sam Mendes and Krysty Wilson-Cairns, “1917”
Quentin Tarantino, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Bong Joon Ho, Han Jin Won, “Parasite”
Best adapted screenplay
Steven Zaillian, “The Irishman”
Taika Waititi, “Jojo Rabbit”
Todd Phillips and Scott Silver, “Joker”
Greta Gerwig, “Little Women”
Anthony McCarten, “The Two Popes”
Achievement in music written for motion pictures (original song)
Randy Newman, “I Can’t Let You Throw Yourself Away” from “Toy Story 4″
Elton John and Bernie Taupin, ”(I’m Gonna) Love Me Again” from “Rocketman”
Diane Warren, “I’m Standing With You” from “Breakthrough”
Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez, “Into the Unknown” from “Frozen II”
Joshuah Brian Campbell and Cynthia Erivo, “Stand Up” from “Harriet”
Best animated feature film
“How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World”
“I Lost My Body”
“Klaus”
“Missing Link”
“Toy Story 4”
Achievement in makeup and hairstyling
Kazu Hiro, Anne Morgan and Vivian Baker, “Bombshell”
Nicki Ledermann and Kay Georgiou, “Joker”
Jeremy Woodhead, “Judy”
Paul Gooch, Arjen Tuiten and David White, “Maleficent: Mistress of Evil”
Naomi Donne, Tristan Versluis and Rebecca Cole, “1917”
Achievement in visual effects
Dan DeLeeuw, Russell Earl, Matt Aitken and Dan Sudick, “Avengers: Endgame”
Pablo Helman, Leandro Estebecorena, Nelson Sepulveda-Fauser and Stephane Grabli, “The Irishman”
Robert Legato, Adam Valdez, Andrew R. Jones and Elliot Newman, “The Lion King”
Guillaume Rocheron, Greg Butler and Dominic Tuohy, “1917”
Robert Guyett, Neal Scanlan, Patrick Tubach and Dominic Tuohy, “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker”
Achievement in cinematography
Rodrigo Prieto, “The Irishman”
Lawrence Sher, “Joker”
Jarin Blaschke, “The Lighthouse”
Roger Deakins, “1917”
Robert Richardson, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Achievement in film editing
Michael McCusker and Andrew Buckland, “Ford v. Ferrari”
Thelma Schoonmaker, “The Irishman”
Tom Eagles, “Jojo Rabbit”
Jeff Groth, “Joker”
Yang Jinmo, “Parasite”
Achievement in production design
Bob Shaw and Regina Graves, “The Irishman”
Ra Vincent and Nora Sopkova, “Jojo Rabbit”
Dennis Gassner and Lee Sandales, “1917”
Barbara Ling and Nancy Haigh, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Lee Ha Jun and Cho Won-woo, “Parasite”
International feature film
Poland, “Corpus Christi”
North Macedonia, “Honeyland”
France, “Les Miserables”
Spain, “Pain and Glory”
South Korea, “Parasite”
Best documentary short subject
“In the Absence”
“Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)”
“Life Overtakes Me”
“St. Louis Superman”
“Walk Run Cha-Cha”
Best documentary feature
“American Factory”
“The Cave”
“The Edge of Democracy”
“For Sama”
“Honeyland”
Actor in a Supporting Role
Tom Hanks, “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood”
Anthony Hopkins, “The Two Popes”
Al Pacino, “The Irishman”
Joe Pesci, “The Irishman”
Brad Pitt, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Best live action short film
“Brotherhood”
“Nefta Football Club”
“The Neighbors’ Window”
“Saria”
“A Sister”
Best animated short film
“Dcera (Daughter)”
“Hair Love”
“Kitbull”
“Memorable”
“Sister”
Achievement in music written for motion pictures (original score)
Hildur Gudnadottir, “Joker”
Alexandre Desplat, “Little Women”
Randy Newman, “Marriage Story”
Thomas Newman, “1917”
John Williams, “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker”
Achievement in sound editing
Donald Sylvester, “Ford v. Ferrari”
Alan Robert Murray, “Joker”
Oliver Tarney and Rachael Tate, “1917”
Wylie Stateman, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Matthew Wood and David Acord, “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker”
Achievement in sound mixing
Gary Rydstrom, Tom Johnson and Mark Ulano, “Ad Astra”
Paul Massey, David Giammarco, and Steven A. Morrow, “Ford v. Ferrari”
Tom Ozanich, Dean Zupancic, and Tod Maitland, “Joker”
Mark Taylor and Stuart Wilson, “1917”
Michael Minkler, Christian P. Minkler and Mark Ulano, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Achievement in costume design
Sandy Powell and Christopher Peterson, “The Irishman”
Mayes C. Rubeo, “Jojo Rabbit”
Mark Bridges, “Joker”
Jacqueline Durran, “Little Women”
Arianne Phillips, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Actress in a Supporting Role
Kathy Bates, “Richard Jewell”
Laura Dern, “Marriage Story”
Scarlett Johansson, “Jojo Rabbit”
Florence Pugh, “Little Women”
Margot Robbie, “Bombshell”
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Post by kevin on Jan 13, 2020 14:39:08 GMT
Movies with multiple nominations:
11 - Joker
10 - 1917
10 - The Irishman
10 - Once Upon a Time In Hollywood
06 - Jojo Rabbit
06 - Little Women
06 - Parasite
04 - Ford v Ferrari
04 - Marriage Story
03 - Bombshell
03 - Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
03 - The Two Popes
02 - Harriet
02 - Honeyland
02 - Judy
02 - Pain and Glory
02 - Toy Story 4
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 13, 2020 14:39:56 GMT
Take out the 3 Netflix nominated films in supporting actor, and perhaps they may have found a slot from a "cinematic" film like Jamie Bell for Rocketman.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 13, 2020 14:41:18 GMT
Congratulations to Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix for Joker. It's an astonishing achievement for the comic-book movie genre.  |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 13, 2020 14:42:39 GMT
I do feel bad for Eddie Murphy a little bit. Glad to see Cynthia Erivo get some attention but I thought for sure that Lupita Nyong'o would be nominated instead.
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Post by onethreetwo on Jan 13, 2020 14:55:50 GMT
No Shia love, sadly. There was a lot of buzz surrounding him at one point.
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Post by onethreetwo on Jan 13, 2020 15:03:48 GMT
Florence Pugh ♥
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Post by kevin on Jan 13, 2020 15:06:55 GMT
I'm slightly disappointed with some of the Joker noms, but I'm also okay with it. I liked the movie quite a bit (a 7/10 or something like that), but I personally just don't really see the why there's so much hype (besides Phoenix's incredible performance). I especially think the screenplay just isn't that great, I never thought it would get a screenplay nom before awards season. And I was hoping for Baumbach for directing or otherwise Gerwig or maybe even The Safdie Brothers. Idk Phillips feels like the safe pick in a year where there were also so many other amazing possibilities for Director. But as I said, I'm happy most movies that I wanted to get nominated and that had a realistic chance to get nominated, got their nom. And I won't get in the way of other people's happiness, so if you're glad that Phillips got nominated, I'm totally fine with that and you should celebrate it because it's a unique achievement for a comic book movie. And with OUATIH missing Editing, it's at least still a semi-open race, even though OUATIH is definitely the frontrunner now. Followed by Parasite & 1917. Then followed by The Irishman and then followed by the Joker, Jojo Rabbit & Marriage Story.
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Post by spiderwort on Jan 13, 2020 15:08:17 GMT
Best Directing was also very competitive and the choices were also never going to satisfy everyone. I personally felt Greta Gerwig did a better job than Martin, Todd and Quentin, but they're not bad choices. And no, don't make this a sexism issue.Gerwig will though.
I haven't seen Little Women yet, but I'm sure she wouldn't be able to handle a film like Ford vs Ferrari, but James Mangold, who is long overdue for directing Oscar recognition, could do her film in a breeze. He is a very versatile director I find and always delivers.
Mangold couldn't compete with Gerwig in a breeze. That's absurd. And it's absurd for you to minimize Gerwig's directing when you haven't even seen the film. So please stop doing that.
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Post by miike80 on Jan 13, 2020 15:09:32 GMT
So all those films that were made for Netfilx, have taken away nominations for films that were made for the cinema and were cinematic and therefore more worthy of an Oscar nod and will be more remembered. Adam Driver and Johnathan Pryce have taken nominations away from Taron Egerton in Rocketman and Christian Bale in Ford vs Ferrari. Go f<>k yourself AMPAS! The Irishman is more cinematic than most of the others. i don't know what you're talking about. Also i thought Pryce and Driver are way better than Bale and Egerton
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Post by onethreetwo on Jan 13, 2020 15:10:43 GMT
I think Phoenix and Tarantino are locks. I think BP is a two film race between OUATIH and 1917.
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Post by miike80 on Jan 13, 2020 15:22:28 GMT
Have not seen Little Women yet, but out of the nominees i would swap Ferrari/Ford for Uncut Gems or A Farewell
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Post by onethreetwo on Jan 13, 2020 15:24:35 GMT
Oh god I forgot about Uncut Gems. Wtf?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 13, 2020 15:30:48 GMT
I'm slightly disappointed with some of the Joker noms, but I'm also okay with it. I liked the movie quite a bit (a 7/10 or something like that), but I personally just don't really see the why there's so much hype (besides Phoenix's incredible performance). I especially think the screenplay just isn't that great, I never thought it would get a screenplay nom before awards season. And I was hoping for Baumbach for directing or otherwise Gerwig or maybe even The Safdie Brothers. Idk Phillips feels like the safe pick in a year where there were also so many other amazing possibilities for Director. But as I said, I'm happy most movies that I wanted to get nominated and that had a realistic chance to get nominated, got their nom. And I won't get in the way of other people's happiness, so if you're glad that Phillips got nominated, I'm totally fine with that and you should celebrate it because it's a unique achievement for a comic book movie. And with OUATIH missing Editing, it's at least still a semi-open race, even though OUATIH is definitely the frontrunner now. Followed by Parasite & 1917. Then followed by The Irishman and then followed by the Joker, Jojo Rabbit & Marriage Story. Yeah Joker is in my top ten for 2019 but I'm surprised by the amount of love it got from the academy. Is this an example of trying to appeal to a broader demo to improve Oscar ratings? Ultimately I'm not outraged; I liked the film, and while it makes for fun discussion I don't overly concern myself with Oscar love. A film doesn't need Oscar appreciation for me to think it's great.
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Post by kevin on Jan 13, 2020 15:35:47 GMT
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Post by kevin on Jan 13, 2020 15:46:19 GMT
I think Phoenix and Tarantino are locks. I think BP is a two film race between OUATIH and 1917. Phoenix is indeed a semi-lock (it would be a major upset if Driver wins and he's the only real competition). Tarantino is definitely not a lock imo (for Director I'm assuming). Tbh I think there's a big chance Picture and Director will be split, since I think it's currently a battle between Mendes and Joon-ho as was f.e. seen at the Critics Choice yesterday where they tied even though OUATIH won BP. And while it isn't the #1 frontrunner anymore, I think it's way too early to take Parasite out of the race for BP, especially with OUATIH missing Editing.
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Post by bd74 on Jan 13, 2020 19:11:49 GMT
1) Oh snap, the dude from Rocketman must be pissed because I read yesterday that he was campaigning hard. 2) I'm not sure I understand the production design nod for Parasite. Is it because of the bunker thing?  ? I wasn't really paying attention to anything other than the performances/storyline. Personally I find the whole Parasite love a bit over the top. It was a good movie but not THAT good. 3) Same goes for all the Joker love. I found Joker very boring and hard to sit through. Or is it that the Academy just wants to make itself appealing to the masses since Joker was a box office hit? 4) Interesting how there's no editing nom for Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, though the lack of acting nominations for 1917 and Parasite was pretty much expected. |
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Post by Vits on Jan 13, 2020 19:49:55 GMT
I'm not sure I understand the production design nod for Parasite. Is it because of the bunker thing? ? That house, man! That house! I wasn't really paying attention to anything other than the performances/storyline. Why not? Movies have a lot of elements. If you don't care about those, why pay attention to something like the Oscars? Or is it that the Academy just wants to make itself appealing to the masses since Joker was a box office hit? AVENGERS PART 4 and THE LION KING aren't nominated for Best Picture. Half of the nominees in that category have grossed under 100 million, one of them being a "Oh, no! Subtitles! I don't want to read! Waa-waa!" movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 19:56:29 GMT
Oscar is again too white. I'm boycotting.
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? I wasn't really paying attention to anything other than the performances/storyline. Personally I find the whole Parasite love a bit over the top. It was a good movie but not THAT good.
