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Post by moviemouth on Jan 14, 2020 0:01:06 GMT
1) Oh snap, the dude from Rocketman must be pissed because I read yesterday that he was campaigning hard. 2) I'm not sure I understand the production design nod for Parasite. Is it because of the bunker thing?  ? I wasn't really paying attention to anything other than the performances/storyline. Personally I find the whole Parasite love a bit over the top. It was a good movie but not THAT good. 3) Same goes for all the Joker love. I found Joker very boring and hard to sit through. Or is it that the Academy just wants to make itself appealing to the masses since Joker was a box office hit? 4) Interesting how there's no editing nom for Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, though the lack of acting nominations for 1917 and Parasite was pretty much expected. The interior of the whole house is a great design imo.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 14, 2020 0:05:47 GMT
Kind of surprised Leo got a nom for OUATIH. He’s good, but it wasn’t next-level stuff. Pitt was better in the movie.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 14, 2020 0:06:12 GMT
Pesci should win Best Supporting Actor. No contest from anyone else.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 14, 2020 0:15:04 GMT
Kind of surprised Leo got a nom for OUATIH. He’s good, but it wasn’t next-level stuff. Pitt was better in the movie. You must not have been paying attention to all the other awards shows. Leo was a lock for a nomination. Whether or not he deserves it is another matter. Ad Astra was robbed of a Visual Effects nomination. It also deserved a Best Cinematography nomination, but I knew that wasn't going to happen.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 14, 2020 0:28:55 GMT
Congratulations to Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix for Joker. It's an astonishing achievement for the comic-book movie genre.  11 Oscar nominations for Joker - most ever for a CBM. And the 1st CBM to receive a Best Picture Oscar nomination based solely on merit and not on the race card. Historic achievement for Joker, DC, and the CBM genre as a whole!
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Post by politicidal on Jan 14, 2020 0:34:18 GMT
Congratulations to Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix for Joker. It's an astonishing achievement for the comic-book movie genre. 11 Oscar nominations for Joker - most ever for a CBM. And the 1st CBM to receive a Best Picture Oscar nomination based solely on merit and not on the race card. Historic achievement for Joker, DC, and the CBM genre as a whole! Thanks to Coogler for opening the door.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jan 14, 2020 1:23:14 GMT
1917 will get 9 awards
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Post by rudeboy on Jan 14, 2020 1:34:24 GMT
Good choices, though I'm surprised to see Kathy Bates instead of Jennifer Lopez and Zhao Shuzhen. I don’t think Zhao was in the running, she hadn’t showed up anywhere significant. I for one am happy that The Farewell rolled snake eyes, although I’d take it over The Two Popes any day. JLO was the big shocker, definitely. |
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Post by rudeboy on Jan 14, 2020 1:35:50 GMT
I thought ATLANTICS was a lock for a nomination, even though I personally wasn't a big fan of it. Thank goodness it was left off. I found it a complete bore, with little to recommend it save for some nice (but repetitive) shots of the ocean. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 14, 2020 2:12:27 GMT
Not that I have much interest anymore, but I still think they should return to just 5 BP nominations. 8-10 is too unwieldy IMO.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2020 3:59:39 GMT
Gerwig will though.
I haven't seen Little Women yet, but I'm sure she wouldn't be able to handle a film like Ford vs Ferrari, but James Mangold, who is long overdue for directing Oscar recognition, could do her film in a breeze. He is a very versatile director I find and always delivers. Mangold couldn't compete with Gerwig in a breeze. That's absurd. And it's absurd for you to minimize Gerwig's directing when you haven't even seen the film. So please stop doing that.
Yeah whatever! Gerwig is talented but was undeservedly nominated for direction for the insipid and over-praised Lady Bird a couple of years ago. It was the "woke" pc agenda that instigated this and was a brazen and obvious as your own indignation. Mangold has been making films long before Gerwig, he is great with actors, has a nice fluid and easy going approach, so go and get your head out of the sand.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2020 4:06:14 GMT
So all those films that were made for Netfilx, have taken away nominations for films that were made for the cinema and were cinematic and therefore more worthy of an Oscar nod and will be more remembered. Adam Driver and Johnathan Pryce have taken nominations away from Taron Egerton in Rocketman and Christian Bale in Ford vs Ferrari. Go f<>k yourself AMPAS! The Irishman is more cinematic than most of the others. i don't know what you're talking about. Also i thought Pryce and Driver are way better than Bale and Egerton. They are NETFLIX FILMS, that is what the contention is.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2020 4:08:53 GMT
1) Oh snap, the dude from Rocketman must be pissed because I read yesterday that he was campaigning hard. 2) I'm not sure I understand the production design nod for Parasite. Is it because of the bunker thing? ? I wasn't really paying attention to anything other than the performances/storyline. Personally I find the whole Parasite love a bit over the top. It was a good movie but not THAT good. 3) Same goes for all the Joker love. I found Joker very boring and hard to sit through. Or is it that the Academy just wants to make itself appealing to the masses since Joker was a box office hit? 4) Interesting how there's no editing nom for Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, though the lack of acting nominations for 1917 and Parasite was pretty much expected. At the end of the day, it is all subjective and we can try and rationalize something that can never be absolute until the cows come home. It is just the bulls<>t politics behind it all and self-serving agendas that mar it all. Even those that make films and do the voting, doesn't mean they have superior, the best or most appropriate taste.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2020 4:13:10 GMT
Kind of surprised Leo got a nom for OUATIH. He’s good, but it wasn’t next-level stuff. Pitt was better in the movie. You must not have been paying attention to all the other awards shows. Leo was a lock for a nomination. Whether or not he deserves it is another matter.
Ad Astra was robbed of a Visual Effects nomination. It also deserved a Best Cinematography nomination, but I knew that wasn't going to happen. Agreed!
Ad Astra was visually impressive, it just lacked a strong emotional connection with me that it was striving for. The science and existentialism of it seemed a bit off too. I found it a disappointment, although when I recall it, the imagery is still potent enough to make it somewhat worthy.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2020 4:27:58 GMT
Yeah whatever! Gerwig is talented but was undeservedly nominated for direction for the insipid and over-praised Lady Bird a couple of years ago. It was the "woke" pc agenda that instigated this and was a brazen and obvious as your own indignation. Mangold has been making films long before Gerwig, he is great with actors, has a nice fluid and easy going approach, so go and get your head out of the sand. PC agenda has nothing to do with it. And you're the one who has his/her head in the sand, criticizing a film you haven't even seen. That's incredibly stupid. End of story.
I will be seeing it next weekend, but I am pretty much certain it won't change my mind about her exclusion. I think you have the blinkers on regarding Gerwig and want to have a phony sentimental pity party over her exclusion for direction. Considering all those films and actors and technicians that got snubbed, Gerwig did very well with nominations for her film, even nabbing her a screenplay nom. And please don't ever tell me something is the end of story. This is an open chat thread which is open to any comment. Talk about entitlement.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 14, 2020 4:31:02 GMT
You must not have been paying attention to all the other awards shows. Leo was a lock for a nomination. Whether or not he deserves it is another matter.
Ad Astra was robbed of a Visual Effects nomination. It also deserved a Best Cinematography nomination, but I knew that wasn't going to happen. Agreed!
Ad Astra was visually impressive, it just lacked a strong emotional connection with me that it was striving for. The science and existentialism of it seemed a bit off too. I found it a disappointment, although when I recall it, the imagery is still potent enough to make it somewhat worthy.
Basically we had the opposite reaction on the main aspect of emotional connection.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2020 4:34:23 GMT
Agreed!
Ad Astra was visually impressive, it just lacked a strong emotional connection with me that it was striving for. The science and existentialism of it seemed a bit off too. I found it a disappointment, although when I recall it, the imagery is still potent enough to make it somewhat worthy.
Basically we had the opposite reaction on the main aspect of emotional connection. It just left me cold like space. Each to his own, but I am also feeling that film could have done with a bit more exposition. It was a slow burn, but perhaps too rushed at the same time. There was not enough to work on with his relationship with his wife either.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 14, 2020 4:39:02 GMT
I loved it personally. the science is off, but the existentialism really connected with me as well as the core father son relationship. One of Pitt's best dramatic performances and Tommy Lee Jones is great in his one main scene, but the visuals of the film is where it really shines. Fantastic cinematography and visual effects. My only real problem with the movie is the very ending. It just didn't sit well with me.
Basically we had the opposite reaction on the main aspect of emotional connection. It just left me cold like space. Each to his own, but I am also feeling that film could have done with a bit more exposition. It was a slow burn, but perhaps too rushed at the same time. There was not enough to work on with his relationship with his wife either. I can see where you are coming from with that stuff, but it didn't bother me much. I didn't really care about the lack of focus on his relationship with his wife, so that didn't hurt the experience at all for me.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 14, 2020 5:52:02 GMT
Well, considering the films up for picture and there are only 5 director slots, she shouldn't, and didn't, get a nod here just for being a woman. That is one saving grace. The biggest snubs, and it makes it even worse for me because of Netflix favoring, is like I have already mentioned, Bale and Egerton for best actor. I also wonder why Best Director doesnt automatically get nominated if they also have Best Picture. Surely a best picture movie has to also be directed very well? Well considering they now nominate 8-10 films for Best Picture, a few of them a going to have to miss out unless they up the director category to 10 also.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 14, 2020 6:09:49 GMT
I also wonder why Best Director doesnt automatically get nominated if they also have Best Picture. Surely a best picture movie has to also be directed very well? Well considering they now nominate 8-10 films for Best Picture, a few of them a going to have to miss out unless they up the director category to 10 also. It happened even when there was only 5 of each too though. It can certainly be defended though. One great movie might be great more because of the writing and one more because of the directing. Gravity or 1917 for example. The writing is good, but it is the directing that makes those movies as good as they are. I mean you can have two actors in a room with a great screenplay, but why would you give a best director nomination to that movie over something that relies much more on feats of visionary filmmaking for example, even if the latter has a screenplay that isn't as good as the former.
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? I wasn't really paying attention to anything other than the performances/storyline. Personally I find the whole Parasite love a bit over the top. It was a good movie but not THAT good.
