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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 5:16:07 GMT
what would it take for you to trade the #1 pick in the draft (Joe Burrow)?
A first round picks for the next decade?
A life time certificate to Robert Kraft's favorite massage parlor?
What it be?
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 14, 2020 5:25:40 GMT
4 first round picks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 5:38:10 GMT
Any reason why 4 specifically? Joe Burrow could be the savior that the Bengals as a franchise need or obviously could fail because it's the Bengals.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 14, 2020 5:45:06 GMT
Any reason why 4 specifically? Joe Burrow could be the savior that the Bengals as a franchise need or obviously could fail because it's the Bengals. Surely no one would give up 5 firsts, & 3 seems low.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jan 14, 2020 6:10:32 GMT
Nothing other than a team trading a young star QB like Mahomes or Watson plus a few other good players and draft picks, and we all know that will never happen, so pretty much nothing. It would be epically stupid to trade away the Burrow pick, franchise QB’s are hard to find and Burrow should be a strong franchise QB for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 6:41:23 GMT
Nothing other than a team trading a young star QB like Mahomes or Watson plus a few other good players and draft picks, and we all know that will never happen, so pretty much nothing. It would be epically stupid to trade away the Burrow pick, franchise QB’s are hard to find and Burrow should be a strong franchise QB for a long time. Agreed. I'm no scout by any means but Burrow looks like the best QB I've seen coming out of college. Plus he's an Ohio kid so it would take a kinds ransom for me as the Bengals GM to trade that away.
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Post by millar70 on Jan 14, 2020 7:13:20 GMT
Nothing other than a team trading a young star QB like Mahomes or Watson plus a few other good players and draft picks, and we all know that will never happen, so pretty much nothing. It would be epically stupid to trade away the Burrow pick, franchise QB’s are hard to find and Burrow should be a strong franchise QB for a long time. Agreed. I'm no scout by any means but Burrow looks like the best QB I've seen coming out of college. Plus he's an Ohio kid so it would take a kinds ransom for me as the Bengals GM to trade that away. You have a kid from Ohio that has said he wants to turn around the Bengals, and that kid just had maybe the greatest season ever for a college quarterback. If the Bengals don't draft him, they should be eliminated from the NFL, at the very least for not giving Cincinnati fans the chance to see what might happen. They HAVE to draft Burrow.
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 14, 2020 7:31:02 GMT
Famously, Cincinnati teams (and that goes for the Reds too) LOVE their Ohio athletes. They are 100% taking Burrow and we’ll see if Zac Taylor can prove to be the right guy to develop him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 8:10:18 GMT
Agreed. I'm no scout by any means but Burrow looks like the best QB I've seen coming out of college. Plus he's an Ohio kid so it would take a kinds ransom for me as the Bengals GM to trade that away. You have a kid from Ohio that has said he wants to turn around the Bengals, and that kid just had maybe the greatest season ever for a college quarterback. If the Bengals don't draft him, they should be eliminated from the NFL, at the very least for not giving Cincinnati fans the chance to see what might happen. They HAVE to draft Burrow. I agree, but my question is what would it take for you as the GM to trade away the right to draft him? In my mind it's got to be at an all time high because of the things you said. For me? It starts at 5 first rounders or a superstar like Watson or Mahomes. (None of which is realistic but that's how strongly I feel about Burrow being a franchise QB)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 8:13:26 GMT
Famously, Cincinnati teams (and that goes for the Reds too) LOVE their Ohio athletes. They are 100% taking Burrow and we’ll see if Zac Taylor can prove to be the right guy to develop him. Since you brought up the Reds my Braves do the same shit. Constantly drafting kids from the Georgia area. That said, as I told Millar above, this isn't the question of IF they draft him. I want to know what YOU would have to take in order to trade that pick as their GM?
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Post by millar70 on Jan 14, 2020 8:49:06 GMT
You have a kid from Ohio that has said he wants to turn around the Bengals, and that kid just had maybe the greatest season ever for a college quarterback. If the Bengals don't draft him, they should be eliminated from the NFL, at the very least for not giving Cincinnati fans the chance to see what might happen. They HAVE to draft Burrow. I agree, but my question is what would it take for you as the GM to trade away the right to draft him? In my mind it's got to be at an all time high because of the things you said. For me? It starts at 5 first rounders or a superstar like Watson or Mahomes. (None of which is realistic but that's how strongly I feel about Burrow being a franchise QB) Because you'd be trading away a talent like this, and a local kid as well, I would have to take a proven NFL quarterback in return plus at least 2 first round picks. And I'm talking real proven. Take away the older guys like Brady, Brees and the like, that wouldn't do the trick. Obviously Mahomes would be someone I would seriously consider, maybe Lamar Jackson but who else? Aaron Rodgers? Russell Wilson?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 9:10:51 GMT
I agree, but my question is what would it take for you as the GM to trade away the right to draft him? In my mind it's got to be at an all time high because of the things you said. For me? It starts at 5 first rounders or a superstar like Watson or Mahomes. (None of which is realistic but that's how strongly I feel about Burrow being a franchise QB) Because you'd be trading away a talent like this, and a local kid as well, I would have to take a proven NFL quarterback in return plus at least 2 first round picks. And I'm talking real proven. Take away the older guys like Brady, Brees and the like, that wouldn't do the trick. Obviously Mahomes would be someone I would seriously consider, maybe Lamar Jackson but who else? Aaron Rodgers? Russell Wilson? Mahomes, Lamar, Watson would be my cut off and that would be plus another first round pick. Rodgers is my dude but he's on the back end where you'd be drafting a franchise future QB compared to an over priced QB. Price has to factor in. Burrow could be had for 5 years affordably before paying him. You gotta get a superstar on his rookie contract in return or like 8 first round picks imo.
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 14, 2020 11:55:14 GMT
I hope this guy Trevor Lawrence (who as I understand will almost certainly go first overall next year) winds up in the NFC. We already have a bunch of young stars in the AFC who'll likely be big things for the next decade plus: Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, very likely Joe Burrow. NFC has... well, Russell Wilson. Who do they have as far as young up and comers? Dak, Wentz, Garoppolo, Goff, none of whom are exactly superstars. The rest are all either getting up there in years or aren't all that good.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 14, 2020 13:55:34 GMT
what would it take for you to trade the #1 pick in the draft (Joe Burrow)? A first round picks for the next decade? A life time certificate to Robert Kraft's favorite massage parlor? What it be? Trade him to the Pats for McDaniels, Brady, the pick the Pats will lose due to Spygate 2 and Kraft's masseuse.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 14, 2020 18:41:30 GMT
Nothing could do it. If some team offered 6 1st and 6 2nd, the Bengals couldn't touch it. Bungles fans have been drooling over Burrow since Week 5. They Trade out and Burrow becomes the next Montana and the front office becomes unemployable. Especially with the Ohio angle.
It would be an interesting scenario. Saying Dwayne Haskins had a very good rookie year. Reskins package Haskins (more proven that Burrow and an ex-Buckeye), the 2nd overall (Buckeye Chase Young who some say is a more sure prospect than Burrow) and two #1 and #2 for the #1. Would you do it? The Bungles have more holes to fill than QB.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 14, 2020 19:04:44 GMT
I hope this guy Trevor Lawrence (who as I understand will almost certainly go first overall next year) winds up in the NFC. We already have a bunch of young stars in the AFC who'll likely be big things for the next decade plus: Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, very likely Joe Burrow. NFC has... well, Russell Wilson. Who do they have as far as young up and comers? Dak, Wentz, Garoppolo, Goff, none of whom are exactly superstars. The rest are all either getting up there in years or aren't all that good. There is a great chance that Cincy gets Burrow, Miami gets Tua, and the Chargers get Herbert. If that happens, only New England, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Indianapolis, and Oakland wouldn't have a quarterback who looks to be the franchise one, and every one of them would be four years in the league or fewer. And all of them but Drew Lock would be first rounders. Now, some of those guys will end up being Marcus Mariota, but the AFC will be packed with young QBs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 20:59:10 GMT
I hope this guy Trevor Lawrence (who as I understand will almost certainly go first overall next year) winds up in the NFC. We already have a bunch of young stars in the AFC who'll likely be big things for the next decade plus: Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, very likely Joe Burrow. NFC has... well, Russell Wilson. Who do they have as far as young up and comers? Dak, Wentz, Garoppolo, Goff, none of whom are exactly superstars. The rest are all either getting up there in years or aren't all that good. The NFC has Jameis so I think it evens out
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 14, 2020 21:29:12 GMT
I hope this guy Trevor Lawrence (who as I understand will almost certainly go first overall next year) winds up in the NFC. We already have a bunch of young stars in the AFC who'll likely be big things for the next decade plus: Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, very likely Joe Burrow. NFC has... well, Russell Wilson. Who do they have as far as young up and comers? Dak, Wentz, Garoppolo, Goff, none of whom are exactly superstars. The rest are all either getting up there in years or aren't all that good. The NFC has Jameis so I think it evens out Dwayne Haskins, Kirk Cousins, Trubisky....it’s like Marino, Montana and Elway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 23:52:22 GMT
Agreed. I'm no scout by any means but Burrow looks like the best QB I've seen coming out of college. Plus he's an Ohio kid so it would take a kinds ransom for me as the Bengals GM to trade that away. You have a kid from Ohio that has said he wants to turn around the Bengals, and that kid just had maybe the greatest season ever for a college quarterback. If the Bengals don't draft him, they should be eliminated from the NFL, at the very least for not giving Cincinnati fans the chance to see what might happen. They HAVE to draft Burrow. I thought he was from Iowa.
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Post by millar70 on Jan 15, 2020 0:33:54 GMT
You have a kid from Ohio that has said he wants to turn around the Bengals, and that kid just had maybe the greatest season ever for a college quarterback. If the Bengals don't draft him, they should be eliminated from the NFL, at the very least for not giving Cincinnati fans the chance to see what might happen. They HAVE to draft Burrow. I thought he was from Iowa. He was born in Iowa, his dad was a college coach so they moved a few times. When Joe was 8, his father was hired by Ohio University. Joe went to high school in Ohio, and also spent two years at Ohio State as JT Barrett's backup.
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