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Post by Lux on Jan 15, 2020 19:58:16 GMT
The Prometheus reboots really ruined the xenomorphs. Ridley Scott is both the best thing and the worst thing to have ever happened to the xenomorphs. Making them man made creations of a robot was the worst thing I've ever seen in the sci-fi genre.
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Post by Jason143 on Jan 15, 2020 20:01:13 GMT
Their armour skin is adapted to not be harmed by acid blood the same way venom doesn't poison a snake.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 15, 2020 20:16:37 GMT
The alien in the first film seemed tougher than the ones in Aliens. The alien gets blasted by the engines of the escape pod but looked intact (dramatic license but still--it wasn't blown apart or affected by the fire). A grappling hook spear did seem to mortally wound it (though the acid didn't dissolve it). I recall one theory is that the acid blood loses potency after the alien was mature (but that was inconsistently applied in the films).
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Post by wolf359 on Jan 16, 2020 7:05:12 GMT
The Prometheus reboots really ruined the xenomorphs. Ridley Scott is both the best thing and the worst thing to have ever happened to the xenomorphs. Making them man made creations of a robot was the worst thing I've ever seen in the sci-fi genre.
After James Cameron is finished with his "AVATAR" Movies, I really hope that the Studio gives the "ALIENS" Franchise back to him again.
I am convinced that he can makes things right with it.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 16, 2020 7:41:45 GMT
The Prometheus reboots really ruined the xenomorphs. Ridley Scott is both the best thing and the worst thing to have ever happened to the xenomorphs. Making them man made creations of a robot was the worst thing I've ever seen in the sci-fi genre. But they weren’t exactly man made. David only made modifications. And of course he isn’t a man. And Prometheus’ handling of the Engineers was fascinating IMO.
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Post by Lux on Jan 16, 2020 9:44:39 GMT
The Prometheus reboots really ruined the xenomorphs. Ridley Scott is both the best thing and the worst thing to have ever happened to the xenomorphs. Making them man made creations of a robot was the worst thing I've ever seen in the sci-fi genre. But they weren’t exactly man made. David only made modifications. And of course he isn’t a man. And Prometheus’ handling of the Engineers was fascinating IMO. David is a robot made by humans. The aliens worked well as mysterious deadly monsters from nowhere but Ridley had to shit on his creation.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 16, 2020 11:08:02 GMT
But they weren’t exactly man made. David only made modifications. And of course he isn’t a man. And Prometheus’ handling of the Engineers was fascinating IMO. David is a robot made by humans. The aliens worked well as mysterious deadly monsters from nowhere but Ridley had to shit on his creation. They’re still mysterious. David only tweaked what already existed. There were pictures of the xenomorphs already on the walls of the Engineers’ ship. In fact David might have simply copied a process which already existed based on knowledge he obtained on the Engineers’ ship. We still don’t know how he made them. Shaw being found eviscerated may indicate that he may have created another trilobite in order to spawn a Deacon. But what happened next? And was copulation involved in any creation of a trilobite and who was it? A surviving Engineer? See, there are still questions and mystery and it invites debate. I get that having a human made robot have a part in what was supposedly to be alien makes the universe created a little smaller. But synthetics were always a fascinating part of Alien. It also serves as Scott’s own sequel of Bladerunner, as many think the films could exist in the same universe. Also let’s not forget that it’s very possible that ‘the company’ (and Ash and Mother) already knew of the existence of xenomorphs and thus sent the Nostromo there to confirm. If you can get over David’s role in the development of this particular xenomorph species, you can start to actually appreciate David and his relationship to this species even more. Then there’s all the new questions that Prometheus raises about the Engineers and their relationship to humans. Personally I think the Engineers were created by another more intelligent species.
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 16, 2020 11:40:44 GMT
The alien in the first film seemed tougher than the ones in Aliens. The alien gets blasted by the engines of the escape pod but looked intact (dramatic license but still--it wasn't blown apart or affected by the fire). A grappling hook spear did seem to mortally wound it (though the acid didn't dissolve it). I recall one theory is that the acid blood loses potency after the alien was mature (but that was inconsistently applied in the films). To be fair, the Nostromo crew only had improvised flame throwers. But the colonial marines had independently targeting particle beam phalanx (you could fry half city that puppy) , tactical smart missiles, phased plasma pulse rifles, RPGs, sonic electronic ball breakers, nukes, knives, sharp sticks...
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Post by wolf359 on Jan 16, 2020 15:05:38 GMT
But they weren’t exactly man made. David only made modifications. And of course he isn’t a man. And Prometheus’ handling of the Engineers was fascinating IMO. David is a robot made by humans. The aliens worked well as mysterious deadly monsters from nowhere but Ridley had to shit on his creation.
To be fair, It is indeed his creation which means he does have the right to do whatever he wants with it even though almost everybody was disappointed by what he chose to do with it.
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Post by Lux on Jan 16, 2020 15:13:17 GMT
David is a robot made by humans. The aliens worked well as mysterious deadly monsters from nowhere but Ridley had to shit on his creation.
To be fair, It is indeed his creation which means he does have the right to do whatever he wants with it even though almost everybody was disappointed by what he chose to do with it.
Well if we go by what you've just said then a parent has the right to throw his or her child off a bridge, run them over, sell their children's internal organs on the black market, or sacrifice them to king Kong. If Ridley wants to bastardize what he created then fine but I also have a right to voice my opinion that I think he's going a bit senile too.
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Post by wolf359 on Jan 16, 2020 15:26:15 GMT
To be fair, It is indeed his creation which means he does have the right to do whatever he wants with it even though almost everybody was disappointed by what he chose to do with it.
Well if we go by what you've just said then a parent has the right to throw his or her child off a bridge, run them over, sell their children's internal organs on the black market, or sacrifice them to king Kong. If Ridley wants to bastardize what he created then fine but I also have a right to voice my opinion that I think he's going a bit senile too.
wow!
Yeah, That is a Good Point.
wow!
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Post by Lux on Jan 16, 2020 16:00:51 GMT
Well if we go by what you've just said then a parent has the right to throw his or her child off a bridge, run them over, sell their children's internal organs on the black market, or sacrifice them to king Kong. If Ridley wants to bastardize what he created then fine but I also have a right to voice my opinion that I think he's going a bit senile too.
wow!
Yeah, That is a Good Point.
wow!
I have my moments but of course I don't like to boast.
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Post by kevin on Jan 16, 2020 16:23:11 GMT
I think it's just that the different materials have different properties. The skin/outer shell & blood vessels of the xenomorph are specifically made to withstand the acid, most likely by some chemical substance or reaction (had it been a real creature). Metal doesn't have that property so it will dissolve, but that doesn't mean that the skin is stronger than metal in every aspect and that the shell can also withstand metal. The rule: if A can withstand B and C can't withstand B, then A is stronger than C isn't immediately true. It just means it's better against material or substance B in particular. It's similar to how our stomach can hold very strong acids, but materials most people would consider to be stronger (perhaps since they could pierce the stomach) will dissolve in stomach acid.
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Post by wolf359 on Jan 16, 2020 22:23:32 GMT
wow!
Yeah, That is a Good Point.
wow!
I have my moments but of course I don't like to boast.
LOL!
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