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Post by snsurone on Jan 18, 2020 22:30:21 GMT
Perhaps I'm the only one who notices this, but in most films and TV shows, dead bodies appear to be in a state of peaceful repose, with eyes and mouths shut, no matter how violent the death.
And the bodies of women are generally laid in graceful, S-shaped poses.
There are exceptions, of course.
The body of Abe Reles (played by Oscar nominee Peter Falk) is shown lying on a sidewalk with eyes wide open in MURDER, INC.
And I'll never forget the scene in LAW & ORDER, where a psychopathic killer is shot dead in front of the courthouse by the father of one of his victims.
The expression of shock was forever etched on his ugly face!
I wonder if the producers of films and TV shows were trying to shield the "emotionally fragile" public from the harsh realities of violent deaths.
Was this a good idea or not?
I'd appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
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Post by marshamae on Jan 18, 2020 23:13:10 GMT
I’m always amazed when the death is a fall or jump from a tall building, landing on a car or a canopy. In Lethal weapon the leap of the addicted daughter ends with her tastefully posed on the canopy ,white negligee falling slightly open, one knee slightly bent. It looks like it was posed by one of Vargas.
In fact, such a leap does incredible violence, way too much for most films.
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Post by snsurone on Jan 19, 2020 10:45:48 GMT
Not to mention the absence of blood in these death scenes.
One exception: ROSEMARY'S BABY, where the covered body of Terry, who jumped to her death, is shown in a pool of blood.
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Post by marshamae on Jan 19, 2020 13:53:41 GMT
Well ....Roman Polanski.... he lives to show death and injury in the most horrible way... like Mel Gidson’s attraction To gorrification
One of TGE most fascinating ( to me) screen deaths is Kevin Spacey in LA Confidential. That shot, the growing breathlessness , the death in mid chuckle and holding it for a long long shot, even as John Cromwell’s voice takes us into the next scene. I have no idea if this scene is realistic, but as a piece of film acting it’s a virtuoso display of control.
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Post by koskiewicz on Jan 20, 2020 4:19:30 GMT
Nothing like a good old "St. Vitus" dance.
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Post by fangirl1975 on Jan 20, 2020 19:38:00 GMT
The aftermath of the henchman getting hurled off the roof in The Untouchables was rather messy though not as messy as it would be in real life.
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Post by marshamae on Jan 21, 2020 1:58:23 GMT
Yeah, I just saw that today. They suggest the violence but, perhaps wisely, don’t show it.
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Post by london777 on Jan 21, 2020 19:20:52 GMT
Not to mention the absence of blood in these death scenes. ... or urine and/or excrement, accompanying most deaths, especially violent ones. One exception I can think of: The Killer Inside Me (2010) dir: Michael Winterbottom. 90% of deaths in war movies, westerns or gangster movies are more or less instant. 90% of deaths in real life are long-drawn-out, whether minutes or weeks. Movies kinda recognize this in that the baddie gets shot and dies (perhaps after a few scornful words). The hero get shot from the same range and eventually recovers. As mentioned, I have been watching a batch of Soviet war films lately. When the officers walk over the battlefield in the immediate aftermath of the battle it is thickly strewn with thousands of bodies (sadly, probably realistic enough on the Eastern Front). There is total silence while sad but stirring music plays. In reality half those bodies would still be writhing in agony and shrieking in pain. Even anti-war films bowdlerize things like this.
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 21, 2020 19:51:44 GMT
And then there is the famous Movie Star's Disease which is that lingering illness that, instead of ravishing a body, makes the movie female victim ever more beautiful and radiant. From Elizabeth Taylor in Jane Eyre (1943) to Ali McGraw in Love Story (1970) and beyond, beautiful women get even more beautiful as they die.
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Post by snsurone on Jan 21, 2020 22:47:46 GMT
As I mentioned, there are exceptions.
One is a scene in PATHS OF GLORY, where Kirk Douglas reacts with justified shock and disgust as he views a foxhole of dead American soldiers.
These bodies were depicted in a realistic manner, with rolled eyes and swollen tongues.
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Post by koskiewicz on Jan 22, 2020 16:09:16 GMT
The there was "Mr. Skratch"
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 22, 2020 16:29:15 GMT
As I mentioned, there are exceptions. One is a scene in PATHS OF GLORY, where Kirk Douglas reacts with justified shock and disgust as he views a foxhole of dead American soldiers. These bodies were depicted in a realistic manner, with rolled eyes and swollen tongues. Are you wanting more graphic violence in films ? Perhaps watching modern Horror movies and modern gangster films would serve ?
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