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Post by marsexplorer on Apr 22, 2017 19:14:47 GMT
Interesting that Bill's fans are that supportive of Norwood. Losing a big game by missed kick is as devastating as winning one is elating. If it had been a chip shot, things might have been different. 47 yard FG in a situation like that isn't a gimme. Norwood was a good kicker, nearly automatic from short range but not a guy who could hit long ones. I didn't realize before, but Scottie was possibly the last kicker to sport the single bar facemask. Yeah, you're right. Even by today's standards 47 yds in an open air stadium isn't a guaranteed 3 pts. Nice pic. I wonder why they even bothered wearing a facemask at all.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 22, 2017 19:22:38 GMT
If it had been a chip shot, things might have been different. 47 yard FG in a situation like that isn't a gimme. Norwood was a good kicker, nearly automatic from short range but not a guy who could hit long ones. I didn't realize before, but Scottie was possibly the last kicker to sport the single bar facemask. Yeah, you're right. Even by today's standards 47 yds in an open air stadium isn't a guaranteed 3 pts. Nice pic. I wonder why they even bothered wearing a facemask at all. You mentioning Fred Cox is what got me on this. One of the few football cards I have. Topps couldn't get logo rights of Freddie got his horns taken away.
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Post by hairybuttcheeks on Apr 22, 2017 19:28:46 GMT
good pic, TGM. those old face masks were dumb. you can go all the way back to leatherheads if you want.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Apr 22, 2017 19:44:34 GMT
Fred Cox, there's a blast from the past. From the days of the portly kicker with the single bar facemask. Jan Stenerud, Garo Yepremian, Roy Gerela... October 1, 1972, the periphery of my Vikings' fandom, Fred Cox misses a 17 yd FG that would of prevented Miami's perfect season. The beginning of a history of Vikings' kickers missing big kicks. Interesting that Bill's fans are that supportive of Norwood. Losing a big game by missed kick is as devastating as winning one is elating. winning a game on a sac bunt in baseball is probably the best.
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Post by hairybuttcheeks on Apr 22, 2017 19:50:46 GMT
good post, nuts. and very true
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Apr 22, 2017 20:16:00 GMT
Interesting that Bill's fans are that supportive of Norwood. Losing a big game by missed kick is as devastating as winning one is elating. Yes, I've been on both sides of that situation. As previously stated, the blocked PAT and runback that lost the game to the Broncos last year and Garrett Hartley's 40 yd make in overtime against the Vikings to send the Saints to the SB in the 2009 season.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 22, 2017 21:00:20 GMT
Fred Cox, there's a blast from the past. From the days of the portly kicker with the single bar facemask. Jan Stenerud, Garo Yepremian, Roy Gerela... October 1, 1972, the periphery of my Vikings' fandom, Fred Cox misses a 17 yd FG that would of prevented Miami's perfect season. How far was that FG attempt?
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Post by NJtoTX on Apr 22, 2017 22:19:22 GMT
Losing close where you obviously blow a gimme is different from when the other team takes it. Ray Allen hitting that shot vs the Spurs was more about Ray, though Duncan should have been out there.
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 22, 2017 22:35:17 GMT
A close loss usually means we at least put up a fight and were a match for our opponents. No shame in a close defeat. A blowout is embarrassing. I call BS on this reasoning. There's no such thing as a moral victory in professional sports. You lose by one or a hundred it still means you lost. I'm not saying it's a "moral victory" I'm saying it hurts less for me.
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 22, 2017 22:39:21 GMT
Who the hell would rather their team lose in a blowout?! What kind of fans are you? At least if you play a close game you know you were good enough win and have to make fewer moves in the offseason, as opposed to looking like a crappy team that needs to be torn down and rebuilt. Exactly. It still gives you reason to be optimistic for the future.
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Post by marco26 on Apr 22, 2017 23:28:18 GMT
Question can't be answered.
Giants blow out loss against Ravens in Super Bowl hurt just the same as Islander's OT goal to knock my Rangers out of playoffs. Close or blowout, a loss in a big game creates the same feeling.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Apr 23, 2017 2:52:59 GMT
First, Im surprised it's close in this poll, interesting thoughts on all accounts.
First Norwood..and the poor Bills. It was a bad situation they put him in. Anyone ever watch the ESPN show,"5 reasons you cant blame...." they did an episode on Scott (I think). He wasnt automatic from that range, and that field type. Actually I think from that range he was BAD. (And on that type of field). I forgot exactly, but it was a bad percent.
As for NE and 18-0, Giants were a good team. They had 3 beast pass rushers, one gets tired, one enters. They stayed fresh.
I think I see your point in a way in the "big" game the super bowl....but think how Atlanta fans feel atm. I mean I know, back when Biggio FINALLY got his world series, we went down in a sweep. Youd think we got blown out, no game 4 we lost 1-0...fn 1-0. I almost felt Id rather us get blown off the field. I guess I see both cases, but man a close lose hurts....a blow out loss, you can say,"this wasnt our day." A close loss, youre thinking,"what if ___ happened or what if _____ happened?" You look at every moment, every shot and man for me it just hurts.
Love all the replies folks!
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