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Post by Harmless elf on Jan 21, 2020 19:28:53 GMT
30,000 signatures. Most of which didn't even see CM. there were millions of people that saw the movie. And I'm sure over half of that 30k are people like the Geeks & Gamers crowd, who are just anti Brie because she had the audacity to say that a movie like Wrinkle in Time was not intended for old white guys. Geeks and gamers and the Fandom Menace are the onision of geek culture YouTube. sacrifice your dignity and pride because it gets the views if you make a video that gets a lot of views repeat the video over and over again. A lot of the people in that movement are creepy old guys hating on women half their age.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 19:29:19 GMT
I did not like Brie Larson as Captain Marvel. I felt like they could have done much better. That said, she got the role fair and square and I wouldn't wish anyone to get kicked out of their job. What I would want, however, is that the MCU changes how they handle Captain Marvel in the future. This exactly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 19:43:24 GMT
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Post by sostie on Jan 21, 2020 19:46:36 GMT
Shame DC put the publishers out of business and many out of work over this one character
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 21, 2020 19:47:13 GMT
If there's a character they should recast, they really should just recast Sif and use her better. There wasn't even really a need to introduce Valkyrie had they simply recast Sif and made the best out of her character.
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Post by raiderjedi on Jan 21, 2020 21:09:01 GMT
DC Fan rises! How long will you be able to go without trolling is the real question. Posts like this are just light trolling.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jan 21, 2020 22:24:06 GMT
Her acting was bad and she was miscast in the role
With your pal DC-Fan gone it is wise to try to be more articulate and less troll-ish around here, so kindly explain why Ms. Larson's acting was bad and why she was miscast for the role. BecUZ sHe's NOt kAT DEnnInGs.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 21, 2020 22:28:42 GMT
Fake news.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 24, 2020 21:23:10 GMT
I don't think Brie Larson has the natural charisma and presence needed to bring Carol Danvers to life. But she wasn't the problem with her film. For what she was handed she did a fantastic job. The problem was a weak script. They dropped the ball on this character. She should've been included in the story ages ago, and when they finally got around to it, they made her story a prequel where she doesn't get to interact with other heroes; and the movie is released in the middle of the biggest crossover event in cinema history.
On top of all that, they gave her amnesia! Want to know how to alienate the audience and not let them care about the central character? Give the character amnesia, and thus no personality. The deck was stacked against Larson before she even signed on. Her portrayal of the character wasn't wooden; the damn character was written to be wooden. A lesser actress turns that movie into a shitshow whereas Brie Larson elevated the material into something at least enjoyable. Personally I don't view it as a top tier MCU flick but it's still fun. I don't think it's the same quality with a tv actress or some of the names I saw thrown out there to play CM.
All the whining people did was irrelevant. The vocal minority complaining about her comments regarding diversity in film critique were drowned out by cash registers as the movie made a billion dollars. The other complaints about her being overpowered were odd, considering nobody ever complained about Thor, Hulk or any other hero being overpowered, and they all showed similar if not more impressive feats in previous films.
As a fan of the character, I don't think Larson was the best choice to embody Carol Danvers, but I think she was solid with what she was given and I'm looking forward to seeing her in the next chapter.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 24, 2020 21:48:50 GMT
Too bad.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 24, 2020 22:57:02 GMT
I don't think Brie Larson has the natural charisma and presence needed to bring Carol Danvers to life. But she wasn't the problem with her film. For what she was handed she did a fantastic job. The problem was a weak script. They dropped the ball on this character. She should've been included in the story ages ago, and when they finally got around to it, they made her story a prequel where she doesn't get to interact with other heroes; and the movie is released in the middle of the biggest crossover event in cinema history. On top of all that, they gave her amnesia! Want to know how to alienate the audience and not let them care about the central character? Give the character amnesia, and thus no personality. The deck was stacked against Larson before she even signed on. Her portrayal of the character wasn't wooden; the damn character was written to be wooden. A lesser actress turns that movie into a shitshow whereas Brie Larson elevated the material into something at least enjoyable. Personally I don't view it as a top tier MCU flick but it's still fun. I don't think it's the same quality with a tv actress or some of the names I saw thrown out there to play CM. All the whining people did was irrelevant. The vocal minority complaining about her comments regarding diversity in film critique were drowned out by cash registers as the movie made a billion dollars. The other complaints about her being overpowered were odd, considering nobody ever complained about Thor, Hulk or any other hero being overpowered, and they all showed similar if not more impressive feats in previous films. As a fan of the character, I don't think Larson was the best choice to embody Carol Danvers, but I think she was solid with what she was given and I'm looking forward to seeing her in the next chapter. I've been saying for a while now that Brie has some good acting chops but lacks charisma. Similar to Natalie Portman or Robert Pattinson or Alicia Vikander. And while I do agree that the Captain Marvel movie had a lot of issues other than Brie, I disagree that she did a fantastic job with what she was given. I don't think she was horrible in her role but surely a more charismatic actress would have made her character more lively and likeable.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jan 25, 2020 15:43:52 GMT
I don't think Brie Larson has the natural charisma and presence needed to bring Carol Danvers to life. But she wasn't the problem with her film. For what she was handed she did a fantastic job. The problem was a weak script. They dropped the ball on this character. She should've been included in the story ages ago, and when they finally got around to it, they made her story a prequel where she doesn't get to interact with other heroes; and the movie is released in the middle of the biggest crossover event in cinema history. On top of all that, they gave her amnesia! Want to know how to alienate the audience and not let them care about the central character? Give the character amnesia, and thus no personality. The deck was stacked against Larson before she even signed on. Her portrayal of the character wasn't wooden; the damn character was written to be wooden. A lesser actress turns that movie into a shitshow whereas Brie Larson elevated the material into something at least enjoyable. Personally I don't view it as a top tier MCU flick but it's still fun. I don't think it's the same quality with a tv actress or some of the names I saw thrown out there to play CM. All the whining people did was irrelevant. The vocal minority complaining about her comments regarding diversity in film critique were drowned out by cash registers as the movie made a billion dollars. The other complaints about her being overpowered were odd, considering nobody ever complained about Thor, Hulk or any other hero being overpowered, and they all showed similar if not more impressive feats in previous films. As a fan of the character, I don't think Larson was the best choice to embody Carol Danvers, but I think she was solid with what she was given and I'm looking forward to seeing her in the next chapter. She had the same personality from before her amnesia. The Kree were trying to break her out of it.
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Post by Wakanda on Jan 25, 2020 16:27:22 GMT
I don't think Brie Larson has the natural charisma and presence needed to bring Carol Danvers to life. But she wasn't the problem with her film. For what she was handed she did a fantastic job. The problem was a weak script. They dropped the ball on this character. She should've been included in the story ages ago, and when they finally got around to it, they made her story a prequel where she doesn't get to interact with other heroes; and the movie is released in the middle of the biggest crossover event in cinema history. On top of all that, they gave her amnesia! Want to know how to alienate the audience and not let them care about the central character? Give the character amnesia, and thus no personality. The deck was stacked against Larson before she even signed on. Her portrayal of the character wasn't wooden; the damn character was written to be wooden. A lesser actress turns that movie into a shitshow whereas Brie Larson elevated the material into something at least enjoyable. Personally I don't view it as a top tier MCU flick but it's still fun. I don't think it's the same quality with a tv actress or some of the names I saw thrown out there to play CM. All the whining people did was irrelevant. The vocal minority complaining about her comments regarding diversity in film critique were drowned out by cash registers as the movie made a billion dollars. The other complaints about her being overpowered were odd, considering nobody ever complained about Thor, Hulk or any other hero being overpowered, and they all showed similar if not more impressive feats in previous films. As a fan of the character, I don't think Larson was the best choice to embody Carol Danvers, but I think she was solid with what she was given and I'm looking forward to seeing her in the next chapter. I've been saying for a while now that Brie has some good acting chops but lacks charisma. Similar to Natalie Portman or Robert Pattinson or Alicia Vikander. And while I do agree that the Captain Marvel movie had a lot of issues other than Brie, I disagree that she did a fantastic job with what she was given. I don't think she was horrible in her role but surely a more charismatic actress would have made her character more lively and likeable. Isnt the point in Captain Marvel she is for the most part trying to surpress her emotions because she is being told to do so all the time? So isnt the point she wasnt supposed to be lively and likeable? That changed after her memories getting back. And in the end? What can you do with an origin story but tell an origin. At least Marvel tried to do it differently with her. I agree she was introduced too late into the Marvel Universe if you look at where they were at this point. However if you look at the movie as a stand alone superhero movie it is a pretty solid origin movie. Not much wrong with it.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 25, 2020 16:53:27 GMT
I've been saying for a while now that Brie has some good acting chops but lacks charisma. Similar to Natalie Portman or Robert Pattinson or Alicia Vikander. And while I do agree that the Captain Marvel movie had a lot of issues other than Brie, I disagree that she did a fantastic job with what she was given. I don't think she was horrible in her role but surely a more charismatic actress would have made her character more lively and likeable. Isnt the point in Captain Marvel she is for the most part trying to surpress her emotions because she is being told to do so all the time? So isnt the point she wasnt supposed to be lively and likeable? That changed after her memories getting back. And in the end? What can you do with an origin story but tell an origin. At least Marvel tried to do it differently with her. I agree she was introduced too late into the Marvel Universe if you look at where they were at this point. However if you look at the movie as a stand alone superhero movie it is a pretty solid origin movie. Not much wrong with it. Being stoic is not the same thing as being wooden. T'Challa is stoic, yet he's able to fill that stoicism with a gravity and vibrance that's lacking from Brie's Carol Danvers. Same for Odin or Nebula or even the Winter Soldier. Just because you're not an emotional character doesn't mean you have to be a bland character. As for the movie itself, I'm perfectly fine with its placement or how they didn't want it to be an origin movie. My issues were more about pacing, color and lighting, fight scenes and general execution. It's a decent superhero movie, don't get me wrong, but it seemed below par for MCU movies at that point in phase 3.
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Post by Wakanda on Jan 25, 2020 16:58:18 GMT
Isnt the point in Captain Marvel she is for the most part trying to surpress her emotions because she is being told to do so all the time? So isnt the point she wasnt supposed to be lively and likeable? That changed after her memories getting back. And in the end? What can you do with an origin story but tell an origin. At least Marvel tried to do it differently with her. I agree she was introduced too late into the Marvel Universe if you look at where they were at this point. However if you look at the movie as a stand alone superhero movie it is a pretty solid origin movie. Not much wrong with it. Being stoic is not the same thing as being wooden. T'Challa is stoic, yet he's able to fill that stoicism with a gravity and vibrance that's lacking from Brie's Carol Danvers. Same for Odin or Nebula or even the Winter Soldier. Just because you're not an emotional character doesn't mean you have to be a bland character. As for the movie itself, I'm perfectly fine with its placement or how they didn't want it to be an origin movie. My issues were more about pacing, color and lighting, a few weird scenes, fight scenes and general execution. It's a decent superhero movie, don't get me wrong, but it seemed below par for MCU movies at that point in phase 3. I would say it was the weakest movie of Phase 3. The weakest since Ant-man and lower mid tier of the entire MCU. It did feel like a good phase 1 movie though.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 25, 2020 17:01:35 GMT
Being stoic is not the same thing as being wooden. T'Challa is stoic, yet he's able to fill that stoicism with a gravity and vibrance that's lacking from Brie's Carol Danvers. Same for Odin or Nebula or even the Winter Soldier. Just because you're not an emotional character doesn't mean you have to be a bland character. As for the movie itself, I'm perfectly fine with its placement or how they didn't want it to be an origin movie. My issues were more about pacing, color and lighting, a few weird scenes, fight scenes and general execution. It's a decent superhero movie, don't get me wrong, but it seemed below par for MCU movies at that point in phase 3. I would say it was the weakest movie of Phase 3. The weakest since Ant-man and lower mid tier of the entire MCU. It did feel like a good phase 1 movie though. My point exactly. It was a subpar phase 3 MCU movie but it didn't need to be had it been handled by better director/s.
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Post by Wakanda on Jan 25, 2020 17:14:15 GMT
I would say it was the weakest movie of Phase 3. The weakest since Ant-man and lower mid tier of the entire MCU. It did feel like a good phase 1 movie though. My point exactly. It was a subpar phase 3 MCU movie but it didn't need to be had it been handled by better director/s. Mmm I dont know. There were only two true other origin movies since phase 1 for a single hero. Doctor Strange and Ant-man. Captain Marvel is much better than Ant-man. And Doctor Strange... I consider that the best superhero origin movie we had the last decade accross all franchises. So maybe it could have been a bit better but isnt that true for all movies in the end? Captain Marvel did what it had to do and now she has to grow and evolve within the universe. I do believe other directors could be more suitable but I am 100% convinced Brie Larson can deliver the goods.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 25, 2020 19:11:57 GMT
My point exactly. It was a subpar phase 3 MCU movie but it didn't need to be had it been handled by better director/s. Mmm I dont know. There were only two true other origin movies since phase 1 for a single hero. Doctor Strange and Ant-man. Captain Marvel is much better than Ant-man. And Doctor Strange... I consider that the best superhero origin movie we had the last decade accross all franchises. So maybe it could have been a bit better but isnt that true for all movies in the end? Captain Marvel did what it had to do and now she has to grow and evolve within the universe. I do believe other directors could be more suitable but I am 100% convinced Brie Larson can deliver the goods. I don't think you're understanding me. It wasn't the story the was the problem, so it's not about whether it was an origin movie or not. It's about the quality of the production, in which case it was subpar compared to the rest of phase 3. Just because a movie is an origin movie doesn't mean it's a good excuse to give it bad pacing, muddy lighting/coloring or lackluster fight scenes. As for Brie Larson, she wasn't the most miscast person in the MCU. Not the worst actor by far. But I really wouldn't consider her great as Captain Marvel. The MCU could have done way better. Still like I said, I wouldn't want her replaced. Just make some tweaks on how the character is portrayed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 19:19:38 GMT
Dang, I thought the shocking number would be about 3-4.
Still, nothing much to do but put their best foot forward and try and make it as good as possible. You can't always work with what you want, you work with what you've got. What you've got is an Oscar winning, Golden Globe winning actress. They'll figure it out, or they won't, in which case there are plenty more movies out there.
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Post by darkpast on Jan 26, 2020 0:30:19 GMT
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