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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 22, 2020 22:13:33 GMT
Eli is set to retire on Friday. The question is - do you think he is a hall of famer?
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 22, 2020 22:19:17 GMT
Yep
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 22, 2020 22:35:25 GMT
Eli is set to retire on Friday. The question is - do you think he is a hall of famer? 2 super bowls and 4 pro bowls. Overall I think he was barely above average as a QB but he's got better stats than a lot of HOF QBs. Hes in for sure. I will always consider him a douchebag for that crap he pulled with the Chargers when he was drafted though.
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Post by DrKrippen on Jan 22, 2020 22:37:02 GMT
Who knows? Jim Plunkett won two Super Bowls with the Raiders and he's not in. He was a Heisman Trophy winner at Stanford too.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jan 22, 2020 22:37:48 GMT
Definitely. 7th all time in yards and TDs. He's in Willie Mays territory!
EDIT: Did Eli ever miss a game due to injury? I don't think he did. That's something of a miracle when you consider that every single NFL game is a war of attrition, and when you factor in that Eli isn't exactly Barry Sanders back there it's even more amazing.
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Post by Marv on Jan 22, 2020 22:48:58 GMT
2x Super Bowl winner and 2x Super Bowl MVP should be enough to get him in.
Was he ever the best qb in the NFL? No. Not even close, but he had stiff competition.
I don’t like comparing this gens numbers to previous decades because all the good qbs of the past 20 years shattered records...but were they all great or was it mostly the rule changes and nfl reinventing itself as a passing league?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 22, 2020 22:53:26 GMT
To me he’s sort of the Don Sutton of QBs, a bit of an accumulator. He played great in the runs to the two Super Bowls, but I have a hard time calling him great. He probably did enough to get in, but he’ll never be confused with his brother.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jan 22, 2020 23:04:54 GMT
To me he’s sort of the Don Sutton of QBs, a bit of an accumulator. He played great in the runs to the two Super Bowls, but I have a hard time calling him great. He probably did enough to get in, but he’ll never be confused with his brother. I bet they have a crazy aunt somewhere in Nebraska who confuses Eli, Peyton and Cooper all the time. She doesn't have time to watch the foosball because they play on jesus' day.
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Jan 22, 2020 23:07:18 GMT
I wouldn't vote for him, but dude's going to be in the Hall of Fame regardless. Who does this guy think he is having a press conference to announce his retirement? Dude must think he's Peyton.  |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 22, 2020 23:18:54 GMT
I wouldn't vote for him, but dude's going to be in the Hall of Fame regardless. Who does this guy think he is having a press conference to announce his retirement. Dude must think he's Peyton. Uh... he's a hall of fame QB in the biggest market in the country. The press is gonna want to hear from him. Nothing to be confused about. He's also never been an attention seeker. He's entitled. |
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Jan 22, 2020 23:29:09 GMT
I wouldn't vote for him, but dude's going to be in the Hall of Fame regardless. Who does this guy think he is having a press conference to announce his retirement. Dude must think he's Peyton. Uh... he's a hall of fame QB in the biggest market in the country. The press is gonna want to hear from him. Nothing to be confused about. He's also never been an attention seeker. He's entitled. The dude's not a hall of famer in my book. Being a two time Super Bowl MVP is fine, but his stats are, for the most part, pedestrian. Only great players should be allowed to have press conferences. Not slightly above average ones whose only claim to fame is winning two Super Bowls. Next we'll be seeing Phil Simms get inducted.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 22, 2020 23:30:41 GMT
Uh... he's a hall of fame QB in the biggest market in the country. The press is gonna want to hear from him. Nothing to be confused about. He's also never been an attention seeker. He's entitled. The dude's not a hall of famer in my book. Being a two time Super Bowl MVP is fine, but his stats are, for the most part, pedestrian. Only great players should be allowed to have press conferences. Not slightly above average ones whose only claims to fame are winning two Super Bowls. Next we'll be seeing Phil Simms get inducted. That's an interesting poll question - who was better - Phil Simms or Eli Manning I'm going Simms.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 22, 2020 23:32:02 GMT
not only is he a Hall of Famer, his twin SB victories over B&B make him the GOAT
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 22, 2020 23:40:57 GMT
Uh... he's a hall of fame QB in the biggest market in the country. The press is gonna want to hear from him. Nothing to be confused about. He's also never been an attention seeker. He's entitled. The dude's not a hall of famer in my book. Being a two time Super Bowl MVP is fine, but his stats are, for the most part, pedestrian. Only great players should be allowed to have press conferences. Not slightly above average ones whose only claim to fame is winning two Super Bowls. Next we'll be seeing Phil Simms get inducted. Well, your book is irrelevant and much lesser players have had press conferences. We can debate the merits of his stats and the hall of fame, and we will likely disagree, but there's a debate to be had. But to say he hasn't earned a press conference is some pretty stupid, petty, bullshit. |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jan 22, 2020 23:44:37 GMT
Yes he’s a Hall of Famer - he’s won 2 Super Bowls and put up good numbers over the years.
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Jan 22, 2020 23:48:53 GMT
The dude's not a hall of famer in my book. Being a two time Super Bowl MVP is fine, but his stats are, for the most part, pedestrian. Only great players should be allowed to have press conferences. Not slightly above average ones whose only claim to fame is winning two Super Bowls. Next we'll be seeing Phil Simms get inducted. Well, your book is irrelevant and much lesser players have had press conferences. We can debate the merits of his stats and the hall of fame, and we will likely disagree, but there's a debate to be had. But to say he hasn't earned a press conference is some pretty stupid, petty, bullshit. HE ISN'T DESERVING OF A PRESS CONFERENCE!! BEING THE LONG TIME STARTING QB OF THE GIANTS DOESN'T MEAN HE DESERVES IT!!!1 Fuckin New York players being overhyped and having their legacies over inflated just because they're in New York. Got Eli getting a press conference and Jeter getting almost unanimously inducted to the Hall of Fame. I just wish we could push New York City away. Let if drift away to the middle of the Atlantic and declare itself its own nation. I have spoken.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 23, 2020 0:01:55 GMT
Well, your book is irrelevant and much lesser players have had press conferences. We can debate the merits of his stats and the hall of fame, and we will likely disagree, but there's a debate to be had. But to say he hasn't earned a press conference is some pretty stupid, petty, bullshit. HE ISN'T DESERVING OF A PRESS CONFERENCE!! BEING THE LONG TIME STARTING QB OF THE GIANTS DOESN'T MEAN HE DESERVES IT!!!1 Fuckin New York players being overhyped and having their legacies over inflated just because they're in New York. Got Eli getting a press conference and Jeter getting almost unanimously inducted to the Hall of Fame. I just wish we could push New York City away. Let if drift away to the middle of the Atlantic and declare itself its own nation. I have spoken. That sounds like an interesting movie actually. I wonder if California is ever going to break off like some predict it will.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 23, 2020 0:05:43 GMT
Clutch... for 2 playoff runs. lols
Yes he's a HOF'er because we all know how this story ends.
2 rings is better than Favre, Brees, & Rodgers... & yet those guys' individual stats outpace Eli's numbers, hilariously so. Still, 2 titles in the NFL SB era by a starting QB is basically automatic with 10 seasons' experience.
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Post by millar70 on Jan 23, 2020 0:10:33 GMT
To me he’s sort of the Don Sutton of QBs, a bit of an accumulator. He played great in the runs to the two Super Bowls, but I have a hard time calling him great. He probably did enough to get in, but he’ll never be confused with his brother. I bet they have a crazy aunt somewhere in Nebraska who confuses Eli, Peyton and Cooper all the time. She doesn't have time to watch the foosball because they play on jesus' day. Making fun of Midwesterners and Christians in the same sentence. Low hanging fruit, but I guess you can't help it. Although I think you're better than that. And entitled New Yorkers still are confused why people support Trump..... |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 23, 2020 0:21:23 GMT
Well, your book is irrelevant and much lesser players have had press conferences. We can debate the merits of his stats and the hall of fame, and we will likely disagree, but there's a debate to be had. But to say he hasn't earned a press conference is some pretty stupid, petty, bullshit. HE ISN'T DESERVING OF A PRESS CONFERENCE!! BEING THE LONG TIME STARTING QB OF THE GIANTS DOESN'T MEAN HE DESERVES IT!!!1 Fuckin New York players being overhyped and having their legacies over inflated just because they're in New York. Got Eli getting a press conference and Jeter getting almost unanimously inducted to the Hall of Fame. I just wish we could push New York City away. Let if drift away to the middle of the Atlantic and declare itself its own nation. I have spoken. You have. It wasn't worth anything, but you have indeed spoken. Why, exactly, are press conferences so sacred to you? |
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