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Post by darkpast on Jan 26, 2020 7:17:22 GMT
Attacking DC, Sonic, Star Wars and Ghostbusters while praising Marvel take.
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Post by ck100 on Jan 26, 2020 7:22:06 GMT
Rian Johnson - "Catering to fans is a mistake." movieweb.com/star-wars-catering-to-fans-mistake-rian-johnson/"I think approaching any creative process with [making fandoms happy] would be a mistake that would lead to probably the exact opposite result. Even my experience as a fan, you know if I'm coming into something, even if it's something that I think I want, if I see exactly what I think I want on the screen, it's like 'oh, okay,' it might make me smile and make me feel neutral about the thing and I won't really think about it afterwards, but that's not really going to satisfy me." "I want to be shocked, I want to be surprised, I want to be thrown off-guard, I want to have things recontextualized, I want to be challenged as a fan when I sit down in the theater...What I'm aiming for every time I sit down in a theater is to have the experience with 'Empire Strikes Back,' something that's emotionally resonant and feels like it connects up and makes sense and really gets to the heart of what this thing is and in a way that I never could have seen coming." |
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Post by ck100 on Jan 26, 2020 7:23:05 GMT
That's the name of the game these days - pandering, nostalgia-driven, and fan service. If studios, directors, writers, etc. say pleasing fans has nothing to do with some of their creative choices, they're lying.
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Post by ck100 on Jan 26, 2020 7:25:38 GMT
"But when you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody." Amen to that.
"The best movies are made by people with a singular vision, and a plan for where the story is going to go."
And to that as well.
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Post by darkpast on Jan 26, 2020 7:33:34 GMT
"But when you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody." Amen to that.
"The best movies are made by people with a singular vision, and a plan for where the story is going to go."
And to that as well.
no one but Sonic fans would see Sonic, why give them a shit design?
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 26, 2020 8:41:27 GMT
Article writer is an idiot.
It's the age of 4 quad corporation-dictated movies. They hired apparatchiks who don't know what they are doing.
Rian Johnson's favorite filmmaker is Woody Allen.
He's directing a sci-fi adventure movie.
The two do not go together.
Hamill told him they should be thinking about audience expectations and likes-and Johnson said they should do the opposite-and the giggling moron is upset people don't like his film?
He's an abstract artist hired to paint for an audience of Frazetta fans and wondering why they are unsatisfied.
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Post by Sarge on Jan 26, 2020 8:57:20 GMT
The IGN article is manufactured outrage. There is not one example given of fan feedback making a quantifiable worse product. It randomly gives fans credit for Black Panthers success. The star wars trilogy being a mess isn't the fault of fans, just like the utter shite they call Star Trek these days isn't the fault of fans; if anything these bozos need more fan involvement because they grew up in Hollywood culture and are clueless about what made these franchises popular and out of touch with mainstream America. Used to be writers wrote about their own experiences and it gave fiction authenticity but today writers have very little life experience writing about what they've grown up watching on television and film as if that were real life, and it sucks.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 26, 2020 19:23:37 GMT
Feedback in of itself isn't a bad thing. But some people are dicks for its own sake, and if that's the foundation for an attempt creative storytelling, it's gonna sink into quicksand.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 27, 2020 3:00:52 GMT
No one should be basing movies on what fans say.
They don;t even know how to write a story.
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Post by janntosh on Jan 27, 2020 4:58:52 GMT
No one should be basing movies on what fans say. They don;t even know how to write a story. Endgame was apparently a “fan service” movie Worked out pretty well for them |
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Post by gljbradley on Jan 27, 2020 23:42:19 GMT
The IGN article is manufactured outrage. There is not one example given of fan feedback making a quantifiable worse product. It randomly gives fans credit for Black Panthers success. The star wars trilogy being a mess isn't the fault of fans, just like the utter shite they call Star Trek these days isn't the fault of fans; if anything these bozos need more fan involvement because they grew up in Hollywood culture and are clueless about what made these franchises popular and out of touch with mainstream America. Used to be writers wrote about their own experiences and it gave fiction authenticity but today writers have very little life experience writing about what they've grown up watching on television and film as if that were real life, and it sucks. THIS. ^
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