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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 27, 2020 15:52:48 GMT
Oh. It's just that I heard that this was normal. There's been stories that he flies in fog all the time, but sadly this time, as your report mentioned, it was the cause. Very sad. I have to wonder if Kobe may have insisted on going, because who's going to say no to Kobe?
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 27, 2020 16:11:25 GMT
I take stock realizing none(?) of my childhood/youth sports icons died young... that I can think of today.
Magic was given a death sentence via HIV, & Michael Schumacher is in dire coma.
Walter Payton was before my fandom.
That's the biggest angle for Kobe's younger fans I think - he was their youthful icon, whether they rooted for or against him.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 27, 2020 16:21:19 GMT
I take stock realizing none(?) of my childhood/youth sports icons died young... that I can think of today. Magic was given a death sentence via HIV, & Michael Schumacher is in dire coma. Walter Payton was before my fandom. That's the biggest angle for Kobe's younger fans I think - he was their youthful icon, whether they rooted for or against him. The death of Len Bias is the last time I cried concerning sports. He was my guy, my Jordan, and even though he was going to the hated Celtics (hated at the time - - I was team Magic), I was just devastated by the news. For my older Pittsburgh peeps, Roberto Clemente would be the equivalent. That's before my time, but I do remember the shock of Thurman Munson dying in an aviation accident.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 27, 2020 16:33:30 GMT
I take stock realizing none(?) of my childhood/youth sports icons died young... that I can think of today. Magic was given a death sentence via HIV, & Michael Schumacher is in dire coma. Walter Payton was before my fandom. That's the biggest angle for Kobe's younger fans I think - he was their youthful icon, whether they rooted for or against him. The death of Len Bias is the last time I cried concerning sports. He was my guy, my Jordan, and even though he was going to the hated Celtics (hated at the time - - I was team Magic), I was just devastated by the news. For my older Pittsburgh peeps, Roberto Clemente would be the equivalent. That's before my time, but I do remember the shock of Thurman Munson dying in an aviation accident. Philly has had a few. Pelle Lindbergh drove his Porsche into a concert wall or something at a zillion miles an hour while intoxicated. I was a kid then so it was even harder for me. Jerome Brown was pretty shocking too. But even though I don’t follow basketball all that closely and wasn’t a Kobe fan either way (I didn’t dislike him, other than 2001 when he beat the Sixers in the finals), this one hit harder. Maybe because he was more famous, maybe because he lived 10 minutes from where I grew up, maybe whatever. This one is a hard one to take. You start asking the larger spiritual questions and i don’t know about you but I don’t come up with any good answers. |
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Jan 27, 2020 19:24:56 GMT
The death of Len Bias is the last time I cried concerning sports. He was my guy, my Jordan, and even though he was going to the hated Celtics (hated at the time - - I was team Magic), I was just devastated by the news. For my older Pittsburgh peeps, Roberto Clemente would be the equivalent. That's before my time, but I do remember the shock of Thurman Munson dying in an aviation accident. Philly has had a few. Pelle Lindbergh drove his Porsche into a concert wall or something at a zillion miles an hour while intoxicated. I was a kid then so it was even harder for me. Jerome Brown was pretty shocking too. But even though I don’t follow basketball all that closely and wasn’t a Kobe fan either way (I didn’t dislike him, other than 2001 when he beat the Sixers in the finals), this one hit harder. Maybe because he was more famous, maybe because he lived 10 minutes from where I grew up, maybe whatever. This one is a hard one to take. You start asking the larger spiritual questions and i don’t know about you but I don’t come up with any good answers. I hockey Lindbergh might be the most recent and biggest name (was coming off a Vezina win a few months earlier) that would've died shockingly. There have been more shocking deaths since such as the Saskatchewan junior bus crash in 2018 and the Russian plane crash in 2011 which may have been felt more widely given the international scope of it's players. List
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Post by millar70 on Jan 27, 2020 19:49:04 GMT
It appears there was a lot of fog in the LA areas, but it wasn't detrimental to the accident. The crash that killed legendary basketball player Kobe Bryant, his 13-year-old daughter and seven other people on Sunday happened during severe fog that had grounded local police agencies' helicopters. The Los Angeles Police Department’s Air Support Division grounded its helicopters and didn’t fly until later in the afternoon because of the fog, department spokesman Josh Rubenstein told the Los Angeles Times. He said flight minimums for the department are 2 miles of visibility and an 800-foot cloud ceiling. “The weather situation did not meet our minimum standards for flying,” Rubenstein said. Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva said his department also had no helicopters in the air Sunday morning “basically because of the weather.” weather.com/news/news/2020-01-26-nba-star-kobe-bryant-killed-in-calabasas-helicopter-crash How horrible it will be if it turns out that Kobe forced the pilot to fly that thing because "Well, I'm Kobe". Especially considering the other 8 people who were killed. |
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Post by millar70 on Jan 27, 2020 19:54:39 GMT
You apparently only hear what you want to hear. Would be interesting though, what would your response be like if it was a Fox reporter who slipped up like that. Something tells me your reaction might be a little different. Nope, I think this issue is a really stupid one unless the person has a history of racist remarks or retweets. But now it makes me question the opposite for you. Hey pal, whatever low opinion you have of me ain't much higher than the one I have for you. Trust me on this. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 27, 2020 21:42:18 GMT
Roy Halladay was crazy devastating, & yet that wasn't near the hundreds of millions of ppl who stopped for Kobe on Sunday.
Ayrton Senna was the first huge loss I remember. That was global. I also began to study more in depth history of sport & athletes around that time.
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 26, 2021 18:21:35 GMT
One year on...
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 26, 2021 18:42:06 GMT
Still kind of unbelievable. And also, this was just before Covid hit the USA big time. Seems like a million years ago. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 26, 2021 18:48:35 GMT
The record shows that I actually broke this news to the board before this thread was posted.
It's really the most important part of this story.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 26, 2021 19:28:51 GMT
I take stock realizing none(?) of my childhood/youth sports icons died young... that I can think of today. Magic was given a death sentence via HIV, & Michael Schumacher is in dire coma. Walter Payton was before my fandom. That's the biggest angle for Kobe's younger fans I think - he was their youthful icon, whether they rooted for or against him. I had Roberto Clemente. First major league game I remember, Clemente came off the bench and popped a three run homer to beat the Phillies and Steve Carlton. I wasn't a Pirates fan but I was a Clemente fan. A few months later, he was dead.
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Post by Rufus-T on Jan 26, 2021 19:42:53 GMT
I take stock realizing none(?) of my childhood/youth sports icons died young... that I can think of today. Magic was given a death sentence via HIV, & Michael Schumacher is in dire coma. Walter Payton was before my fandom. That's the biggest angle for Kobe's younger fans I think - he was their youthful icon, whether they rooted for or against him. I had Roberto Clemente. First major league game I remember, Clemente came off the bench and popped a three run homer to beat the Phillies and Steve Carlton. I wasn't a Pirates fan but I was a Clemente fan. A few months later, he was dead.
Wow! A year past by just like that.
Mine was Thurman Munson. I was in summer camp when I heard about the plane accident.
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Post by millar70 on Jan 26, 2021 19:46:51 GMT
Again???
Jesus, the guy might want to go by train next time.
That's enough with the helicopters.....
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 26, 2021 20:06:00 GMT
I had Roberto Clemente. First major league game I remember, Clemente came off the bench and popped a three run homer to beat the Phillies and Steve Carlton. I wasn't a Pirates fan but I was a Clemente fan. A few months later, he was dead.
Wow! A year past by just like that.
Mine was Thurman Munson. I was in summer camp when I heard about the plane accident.
Thurman Munson was difficult for a youngster like me. God, I hated Munson. Hated all the Yankees (Munson died a year after the Great Fold of 1978). I knew I should feel bad but a small part of me didn't. His death hurt the Yanks. He had a few good years left.
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Post by Rufus-T on Jan 26, 2021 20:27:01 GMT
Wow! A year past by just like that.
Mine was Thurman Munson. I was in summer camp when I heard about the plane accident.
Thurman Munson was difficult for a youngster like me. God, I hated Munson. Hated all the Yankees (Munson died a year after the Great Fold of 1978). I knew I should feel bad but a small part of me didn't. His death hurt the Yanks. He had a few good years left.
That is what made that 70s Sox-Yankees rivalry that great and fun to watch. We hated the opposing players, but respect them. I hated Jim Rice because he scared the shit out of me whenever he came to bat. The 70s rivalry did not renew until after Pedro became the Red Sox. The rivalry now is bit tamed especially Betts left.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 26, 2021 20:33:27 GMT
Thurman Munson was difficult for a youngster like me. God, I hated Munson. Hated all the Yankees (Munson died a year after the Great Fold of 1978). I knew I should feel bad but a small part of me didn't. His death hurt the Yanks. He had a few good years left.
That is what made that 70s Sox-Yankees rivalry that great and fun to watch. We hated the opposing players, but respect them. I hated Jim Rice because he scared the shit out of me whenever he came to bat. The 70s rivalry did not renew until after Pedro became the Red Sox. The rivalry now is bit tamed especially Betts left. I hated all of them but a few in particular
Ron Guidry, because he never lost Thurman Munson, fought with Pudge Fisk Reggie Jackson, my favorite players when I was an A's fan, before '75 and, of course
Yeah, look at Mr. Clutch Home Run bunting the fucking ball. My Aunt Marie had more power than that lump
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 26, 2021 21:38:11 GMT
I take stock realizing none(?) of my childhood/youth sports icons died young... that I can think of today. Magic was given a death sentence via HIV, & Michael Schumacher is in dire coma. Walter Payton was before my fandom. That's the biggest angle for Kobe's younger fans I think - he was their youthful icon, whether they rooted for or against him. I had Roberto Clemente. First major league game I remember, Clemente came off the bench and popped a three run homer to beat the Phillies and Steve Carlton. I wasn't a Pirates fan but I was a Clemente fan. A few months later, he was dead.
Len Bias would've been on my radar, yet I wasn't following the NBA until 1990.
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