|
|
Post by politicidal on Jan 31, 2020 15:48:56 GMT
Director Guillermo Del Toro officially started filming. It includes "...Bradley Cooper, who took over for Leonardo DiCaprio, Cate Blanchett, Toni Collette, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins, Ron Perlman, Rooney Mara, and David Strathairn."
|
|
|
|
Post by mikef6 on Jan 31, 2020 16:31:45 GMT
Director Guillermo Del Toro officially started filming. It includes "...Bradley Cooper, who took over for Leonardo DiCaprio, Cate Blanchett, Toni Collette, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins, Ron Perlman, Rooney Mara, and David Strathairn."
Think I'll skip it, thanks. Nobody there really grabs me except Cate.
|
|
|
|
Post by politicidal on Jan 31, 2020 17:12:34 GMT
I like most of the cast so I'll probably see it. I hadn't seen the original but I probably will leading up to this.
|
|
|
|
Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jan 31, 2020 18:45:00 GMT
still filming in upstate ny?
|
|
|
|
Post by RiP, IMDb on Feb 1, 2020 0:06:10 GMT
Director Guillermo Del Toro officially started filming. It includes "...Bradley Cooper, who took over for Leonardo DiCaprio, Cate Blanchett, Toni Collette, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins, Ron Perlman, Rooney Mara, and David Strathairn."
|
|
|
|
Post by london777 on Feb 1, 2020 1:39:28 GMT
Director Guillermo Del Toro officially started filming. It includes "...Bradley Cooper, who took over for Leonardo DiCaprio, Cate Blanchett, Toni Collette, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins, Ron Perlman, Rooney Mara, and David Strathairn."
Think I'll skip it, thanks. Nobody there really grabs me except Cate. Careful, Mike! You do not want to turn into a surly old curmudgeon like me. I think that is a stellar cast. A lot of my favorite actors there: Toni Collette, Willem Defoe, Richard Jenkins, David Strathairn. Sorry to see that another favorite, Michael Shannon, has now dropped out of the casting. He is natural "carny" material. Worth seeing, just to watch slimeball Bradley Cooper being degraded and humiliated. Of all my favorite classic noirs, I think Nightmare Alley is one that could (possibly?) be improved upon. Once it moved away from the fairground and into bourgeois circles, it became a bit labored and "thirtyish" (my most damning insult). Maybe del Toro could use flashbacks to knit this part of the plot to the carny stuff? It is like we are watching a different movie. I understand it is a reworking of the original novel rather than of the 1947 classic, so there may be room for both, as in the case of The Killers, for example. Exactly which part of your body does Cate Blanchett grab, by the way?
|
|
|
|
Post by politicidal on Feb 1, 2020 2:13:37 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 1, 2020 2:14:55 GMT
Good cast.
|
|
|
|
Post by mikef6 on Feb 1, 2020 2:19:20 GMT
Think I'll skip it, thanks. Nobody there really grabs me except Cate. Careful, Mike! You do not want to turn into a surly old curmudgeon like me. I think that is a stellar cast. A lot of my favorite actors there: Toni Collette, Willem Defoe, Richard Jenkins, David Strathairn. Sorry to see that another favorite, Michael Shannon, has now dropped out of the casting. He is natural "carny" material. Worth seeing, just to watch slimeball Bradley Cooper being degraded and humiliated. Of all my favorite classic noirs, I think Nightmare Alley is one that could (possibly?) be improved upon. Once it moved away from the fairground and into bourgeois circles, it became a bit labored and "thirtyish" (my most damning insult). Maybe del Toro could use flashbacks to knit this part of the plot to the carny stuff? It is like we are watching a different movie. I understand it is a reworking of the original novel rather than of the 1947 classic, so there may be room for both, as in the case of The Killers, for example. Exactly which part of your body does Cate Blanchett grab, by the way? I had a feeling somebody was going to crack wise about that. I don't THINK that I am coming down with curmudgeonitis. I enjoy my share of new movies, but fewer and fewer all the time (or maybe 2019 was just a bad year for films). Anyway, my respect for pre-1970 movies grows as my disinterest (not dislike) in new product wanes.
|
|
|
|
Post by london777 on Feb 1, 2020 2:39:45 GMT
Had to look that one up after poring over a map of New England for ten minutes. I never watch musicals. They are even worse than westerns.
|
|
|
|
Post by RiP, IMDb on Feb 1, 2020 9:37:16 GMT
Still filming in upstate NY?
|
|
|
|
Post by cynthiagreen on Feb 1, 2020 11:01:38 GMT
I'm interested without being excited ... I'd give the original an honourable mention in any best of year poll - it's no huge favourite - so I'm not feeling like it would be gilding the lily to remake it the way I would feel if we were discussing a reboot of IN A LONELY PLACE or TOUCH OF EVIL, which to my mind are perfect in their original incarnations (I even favour the studio cut of EVIL...). Curiously, although I adore LAURA I'll admit to liking the western remake (FRONTIER GAMBLER) and I'd kill to see the Lee Radziwill TV version  For the record the Hildegarde Neff version is OK if you can cope with big boned Hilde subbing for the exquisite Tierney, but you can keep SHARKY'S MACHINE...  ...... I'm aware THE MALTESE FALCON most of us cherish is a remake, so sometimes they clearly get it right.. or better. Good call on THE KILLERS - both versions are fine and I wouldn't want to choose between them - they are different enough to stand proud together.
I always get the original NIGHTMARE ALLEY a bit confused with aspects of FREAKS, although it years since I saw either in full ....
Intrigued to see what Cate will make of Helen Walker's old role.... a "blackmailing psychiatrist" according to Maltin. And a rather butch looking one too....Can never have too many of them! 
Helen Walker ignored by most of my movie star guides so I'll pay her some attention. It was her first movie after a drunk driving scandal which sadly killed a hitchhiking GI and took the sting out of a promising career. Good as she was in this her career never got going again really. And I don't think the film was a commercial success ( My David Shipman says it was thought of at time as an "emasculation" of the novel and not much liked critically, although Power himself got raves). Walker's last movie was 1955, and she died young at 47. Her best remembered movies aside from this would probably be BREWSTERS MILLIONS, MURDER HE SAYS, CLUNY BROWN, DUFFY'S TAVERN, CALL NORTHSIDE 777, IMPACT and THE BIG COMBO
Recommended- LAURA on horseback
|
|
|
|
Post by petrolino on Feb 1, 2020 13:00:16 GMT
I think a good remake compliments an original. You can sit dvds of Stuart Heisler's 'The Glass Key' (1942), Akira Kurosawa's 'Yojimbo' (1961), Sergio Leone's 'A Fistful Of Dollars' (1964), Sergio Corbucci's 'Django' (1966), John Broderick's 'The Warrior And The Sorceress' (1984) and Walter Hill's 'Last Man Standing' (1996) next to each other on your shelf and enjoy them all, each film bringing something different to the table, each variation on a template etched in its director's individualistic style. I use this example as I prefer all these interpretations of a a text by Dashiell Hammett to Frank Tuttle's 'The Glass Key' (1935) which came earlier. I'd welcome another, as long as the director was strong enough to apply their own imprint.
A remake of 'Nightmare Alley' (1947) is good with me as it won't affect my passion for Edmund Goulding's original, but it'll have to go some to match that film's eerie delerium and panic mode.
|
|
|
|
Post by politicidal on Dec 14, 2020 19:08:43 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by marshamae on Dec 14, 2020 19:42:15 GMT
I ADORE the original so I probably will ignore tge remake unless the reviews are positive Raves.
The West side story remake is the first remake of a bona fide masterpiece to capture my interest before reviews.
|
|
|
|
Post by politicidal on Jan 21, 2021 21:42:27 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Isapop on Jan 21, 2021 22:21:52 GMT
I like most of the cast so I'll probably see it. I hadn't seen the original but I probably will leading up to this. When you do, let us know what you think of the ending.
|
|
|
|
Post by hi224 on Jan 24, 2021 21:02:07 GMT
Director Guillermo Del Toro officially started filming. It includes "...Bradley Cooper, who took over for Leonardo DiCaprio, Cate Blanchett, Toni Collette, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins, Ron Perlman, Rooney Mara, and David Strathairn."
Replace Cooper and I'd be more excited. |
|
|
|
Post by politicidal on Jan 24, 2021 21:32:47 GMT
Director Guillermo Del Toro officially started filming. It includes "...Bradley Cooper, who took over for Leonardo DiCaprio, Cate Blanchett, Toni Collette, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins, Ron Perlman, Rooney Mara, and David Strathairn."
Replace Cooper and I'd be more excited. No fan of Rocket Raccoon? I think he's much improved since his rom-com days. Or the Hangover trilogy.
|
|
|
|
Post by politicidal on Jul 8, 2021 19:47:22 GMT
|
|
For the record the Hildegarde Neff version is OK if you can cope with big boned Hilde subbing for the exquisite Tierney, but you can keep SHARKY'S MACHINE... 
...... I'm aware THE MALTESE FALCON most of us cherish is a remake, so sometimes they clearly get it right.. or better. Good call on THE KILLERS - both versions are fine and I wouldn't want to choose between them - they are different enough to stand proud together.
