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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 1, 2020 22:40:45 GMT
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 2, 2020 1:36:55 GMT
is everyone still around? Hey. I'm still here. This board is pretty much dead, unfortunately.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 2, 2020 17:56:06 GMT
is everyone still around? Hey. I'm still here. This board is pretty much dead, unfortunately. So good to hear from you . Hope all is well with everyone , sorry was away for so long had a lot to deal with this past year. I had a feeling once show was over so will the boards . I was surprised to read HBO cancelled the new GOT show .
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 2, 2020 20:32:05 GMT
So good to hear from you . Hope all is well with everyone , sorry was away for so long had a lot to deal with this past year. I had a feeling once show was over so will the boards . I was surprised to read HBO cancelled the new GOT show . It's good to hear from you too, Jonsa. No worries on not being on here for so long. Real life comes before the message boards. Hopefully everything has calmed down for you ( if the time away was due to stressful/sad times). I too was disappointed to hear about Bloodmoon being canceled. I guess the Naomi Watts starring pilot episode wasn't up to HBO's standards...or maybe they were being overly critical due to the reception of GOT's finale? I can see both playing into it. Personally, I actually liked the finale, but I can see why others didn't like it. Anyway...*sigh*...I guess this picture is the closest we'll get to seeing Bloodmoon. Notice the sigil on the banner? Luckily, there's still 4 more GOT prequels in different stages of production. House of the Dragon (the Targaryen prequel) has gone to series (meaning a complete first season of course) and HBO released this image for it: GOT alum Bryan Cogman left another of the prequel shows as show runner due to creative differences with HBO. He said he's 'done' with Martin's world now. He sounded frustrated. No word on that show since. Cogman is now working on Amazon's Lord of the Rings series, so he's made out way better than D&D. I don't know anything about the other 2 shows. I'm guessing HBO will see how House of the Dragon is received before committing to greenlighting anymore from the franchise.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 2, 2020 20:33:24 GMT
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 4, 2020 16:06:05 GMT
is everyone still around?
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 4, 2020 16:13:32 GMT
So good to hear from you . Hope all is well with everyone , sorry was away for so long had a lot to deal with this past year. I had a feeling once show was over so will the boards . I was surprised to read HBO cancelled the new GOT show . It's good to hear from you too, Jonsa. No worries on not being on here for so long. Real life comes before the message boards. Hopefully everything has calmed down for you ( if the time away was due to stressful/sad times). I too was disappointed to hear about Bloodmoon being canceled. I guess the Naomi Watts starring pilot episode wasn't up to HBO's standards...or maybe they were being overly critical due to the reception of GOT's finale? I can see both playing into it. Personally, I actually liked the finale, but I can see why others didn't like it. Anyway...*sigh*...I guess this picture is the closest we'll get to seeing Bloodmoon. Notice the sigil on the banner? Luckily, there's still 4 more GOT prequels in different stages of production. House of the Dragon (the Targaryen prequel) has gone to series (meaning a complete first season of course) and HBO released this image for it: GOT alum Bryan Cogman left another of the prequel shows as show runner due to creative differences with HBO. He said he's 'done' with Martin's world now. He sounded frustrated. No word on that show since. Cogman is now working on Amazon's Lord of the Rings series, so he's made out way better than D&D. I don't know anything about the other 2 shows. I'm guessing HBO will see how House of the Dragon is received before committing to greenlighting anymore from the franchise. shinnickneth thank you so much , . It's too bad we don't have a GOT show to watch to talk about take mind off things , thanks so much for the pictures I haven't really kept in touch with what went on after the finale so interesting looks like the starks were a part of it , I wonder how naomi watts and others felt being cancelled ? I mean she is a popular actress . I think they are doing house of dragons to calm down GOT fans who never accepted the finale and kinda give the Targaryen fans who were hoping for a restoration some consolation with this show .I really liked episodes Bryan Cogman was involved with he was a big sansa/jonsa supporter
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 5, 2020 1:45:49 GMT
shinnickneth thank you so much , . It's too bad we don't have a GOT show to watch to talk about take mind off things , thanks so much for the pictures I haven't really kept in touch with what went on after the finale so interesting looks like the starks were a part of it , I wonder how naomi watts and others felt being cancelled ? I mean she is a popular actress . I think they are doing house of dragons to calm down GOT fans who never accepted the finale and kinda give the Targaryen fans who were hoping for a restoration some consolation with this show .I really liked episodes Bryan Cogman was involved with he was a big sansa/jonsa supporter You're welcome. Yes, the Starks are an ancient House, so they were definitely in Bloodmoon. It's also possible that we would have seen House Casterly, who owned Casterly Rock until a Lannister ancestor deceived House Casterly into giving the castle to him. It would have been fun to see that. According to the president of HBO, the pilot for the show just didn't quite live up to their expectations, unfortunately. Haha I too enjoyed Cogman's work. It would have been interesting what he would have done with his own show. Maybe one day he'll be able to talk about what his prequel show would have been about. As of now, I still can't find any details on it. I agree with what you said about the Targaryen prequel show. It's most likely what HBO is trying to do. They said there's no plans to pick up anymore GOT shows, so they're definitely waiting to see what happens with the reception to House of the Dragon.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 5, 2020 20:12:41 GMT
shinnickneth thank you so much , . It's too bad we don't have a GOT show to watch to talk about take mind off things , thanks so much for the pictures I haven't really kept in touch with what went on after the finale so interesting looks like the starks were a part of it , I wonder how naomi watts and others felt being cancelled ? I mean she is a popular actress . I think they are doing house of dragons to calm down GOT fans who never accepted the finale and kinda give the Targaryen fans who were hoping for a restoration some consolation with this show .I really liked episodes Bryan Cogman was involved with he was a big sansa/jonsa supporter You're welcome. Yes, the Starks are an ancient House, so they were definitely in Bloodmoon. It's also possible that we would have seen House Casterly, who owned Casterly Rock until a Lannister ancestor deceived House Casterly into giving the castle to him. It would have been fun to see that. According to the president of HBO, the pilot for the show just didn't quite live up to their expectations, unfortunately. Haha I too enjoyed Cogman's work. It would have been interesting what he would have done with his own show. Maybe one day he'll be able to talk about what his prequel show would have been about. As of now, I still can't find any details on it. I agree with what you said about the Targaryen prequel show. It's most likely what HBO is trying to do. They said there's no plans to pick up anymore GOT shows, so they're definitely waiting to see what happens with the reception to House of the Dragon. The way show version ended leaves many doors open for the story to continue if they wanted to , and in the books there are so many other characters not introduced on the show , wh knows years from now they may reboot the GOT story .Recently read an article Kit Harington said he misses Jon snow .
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 7, 2020 20:42:07 GMT
The way show version ended leaves many doors open for the story to continue if they wanted to , and in the books there are so many other characters not introduced on the show , wh knows years from now they may reboot the GOT story .Recently read an article Kit Harington said he misses Jon snow . Certainly! Writers could certainly build off of it all. There's still even the possibility of White Walkers with the babies (Craster's former sons) somewhere beyond The Wall.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 7, 2020 23:11:54 GMT
The way show version ended leaves many doors open for the story to continue if they wanted to , and in the books there are so many other characters not introduced on the show , wh knows years from now they may reboot the GOT story .Recently read an article Kit Harington said he misses Jon snow . Certainly! Writers could certainly build off of it all. There's still even the possibility of White Walkers with the babies (Craster's former sons) somewhere beyond The Wall. Was that ever explained on the show ? Because I never understood as to why he wanted those babies I mean I knew he wanted them to be leader wights ?? Or something like that but it seemed was never really explained the WW story was the most bizarre one it added some mystery first couple seasons but then it seemed they dropped all the theories it was all about the NK. .
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 8, 2020 0:54:32 GMT
Was that ever explained on the show ? Because I never understood as to why he wanted those babies I mean I knew he wanted them to be leader wights ?? Or something like that but it seemed was never really explained the WW story was the most bizarre one it added some mystery first couple seasons but then it seemed they dropped all the theories it was all about the NK. . No, the show didn't explain much of anything that was magical on the show. I assume that the White Walker babies (once being human) were the Night King's backup plan should he fail to take Westeros. We know that the White Walkers failed once before one thousand years before, went away, hid in the ice way beyond The Wall, and then came back over the course of the show. Perhaps they used the baby method to preserve their race the first time as well? Hiding them in the ice before they departed for war? The babies seemed to be the only way the NK could transform humans into White Walkers. He seemed to try with Uncle Benjen Stark when they held him prisoner, but failed, and only managed to make Benjen like a hybrid of them...or something...I'm not quite sure though what Benjen was. They kind of just killed him off when he could have easily escaped on horseback with Bran. At the time of watching that episode I was like, 'Uh...really?' The writers should have kept Benjen alive. He could have been a way of telling us about the White Walkers and their kingdom way beyond The Wall. Lost opportunity. We're given backstory on the White Walkers and the Night King in the books of course, but given how much of a difference between the mediums, I'm unsure if the books' backstory is canon to the show.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 9, 2020 22:25:59 GMT
Was that ever explained on the show ? Because I never understood as to why he wanted those babies I mean I knew he wanted them to be leader wights ?? Or something like that but it seemed was never really explained the WW story was the most bizarre one it added some mystery first couple seasons but then it seemed they dropped all the theories it was all about the NK. . No, the show didn't explain much of anything that was magical on the show. I assume that the White Walker babies (once being human) were the Night King's backup plan should he fail to take Westeros. We know that the White Walkers failed once before one thousand years before, went away, hid in the ice way beyond The Wall, and then came back over the course of the show. Perhaps they used the baby method to preserve their race the first time as well? Hiding them in the ice before they departed for war? The babies seemed to be the only way the NK could transform humans into White Walkers. He seemed to try with Uncle Benjen Stark when they held him prisoner, but failed, and only managed to make Benjen like a hybrid of them...or something...I'm not quite sure though what Benjen was. They kind of just killed him off when he could have easily escaped on horseback with Bran. At the time of watching that episode I was like, 'Uh...really?' The writers should have kept Benjen alive. He could have been a way of telling us about the White Walkers and their kingdom way beyond The Wall. Lost opportunity. We're given backstory on the White Walkers and the Night King in the books of course, but given how much of a difference between the mediums, I'm unsure if the books' backstory is canon to the show. Both of your theories are so good and make sense why NK would want the babies , it's too bad the show left so many unanswered questions because I don't think many fans will read the last two books if they ever come out , especially the ones who learned about game of thrones through the show ,but would be good if Goerge Martin explained in the books , I think with all the fan theories out there a lot of what he had planned was figured out and maybe he feels uninspired to write? i wish they had kept uncle benjen alive I felt his reunion with bran was strange he must have known something about bran the way he looked at him, and then with Jon he didn't have time to warn him much about anything but gave his life for his .
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 10, 2020 6:26:01 GMT
Both of your theories are so good and make sense why NK would want the babies , it's too bad the show left so many unanswered questions because I don't think many fans will read the last two books if they ever come out , especially the ones who learned about game of thrones through the show ,but would be good if Goerge Martin explained in the books , I think with all the fan theories out there a lot of what he had planned was figured out and maybe he feels uninspired to write? i wish they had kept uncle benjen alive I felt his reunion with bran was strange he must have known something about bran the way he looked at him, and then with Jon he didn't have time to warn him much about anything but gave his life for his . Thanks! It's the only sense I can make of it all. Otherwise, the White Walker babies play no part in the Night King's plan. He didn't use them at all in his attack against Westeros. We were never shown any other White Walker babies after the episode where the NK turned the baby into one of them. They have to be buried somewhere! Caster is said to have had like 100 sons (all of which other than one, baby Sam, would have gone to NK). Yet we only ever saw about 13 White Walkers at any given time in the show. There were certainly not 100 White Walkers at the Winterfell battle. I believe this is the most WW's we were shown at once: The babies had to play an important part in the NK's plan - enough so that the NK actually made a truce with Craster on grounds he provided them his sons. The NK didn't strike me as someone to make a truce with anyone (let alone a human). In terms of GRRM... hmmmm I think you may be on to something. GRRM may have become discouraged by GOT getting to the end before him. He has said as a writer, he loses interest in writing a story when people can accurately guess where he's going with it. He's also stated that he's a very slow writer. He did a live event on stage with Stephen King some years ago where he was just amazed how King is able to write 10 pages a day. He said he just can't do that. Add in all the vast amount of mythology/history he's created for his world (on top of the multiple stories he has going on simultaneously), and he may never get to finishing those last 2 books, sadly. I think it may help to know that GRRM said that the show has only shown "one possible ending" for the story. What he means by that is unclear. Maybe GRRM will do like the Lord of the Rings movies where there's "multiple endings" to the story?
Yes, Benjen was killed off too quickly. I also thought the Blackfish was carelessly killed off by the writers. He could have been a great ally for Sansa, but it just seemed like they wanted to get rid of him...leaving the great warrior to be killed by Nameless Lannister Soldier #4...sheesh! I'm also still bitter about how they ended Stannis' storyline!
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 12, 2020 15:52:32 GMT
Both of your theories are so good and make sense why NK would want the babies , it's too bad the show left so many unanswered questions because I don't think many fans will read the last two books if they ever come out , especially the ones who learned about game of thrones through the show ,but would be good if Goerge Martin explained in the books , I think with all the fan theories out there a lot of what he had planned was figured out and maybe he feels uninspired to write? i wish they had kept uncle benjen alive I felt his reunion with bran was strange he must have known something about bran the way he looked at him, and then with Jon he didn't have time to warn him much about anything but gave his life for his . Thanks! It's the only sense I can make of it all. Otherwise, the White Walker babies play no part in the Night King's plan. He didn't use them at all in his attack against Westeros. We were never shown any other White Walker babies after the episode where the NK turned the baby into one of them. They have to be buried somewhere! Caster is said to have had like 100 sons (all of which other than one, baby Sam, would have gone to NK). Yet we only ever saw about 13 White Walkers at any given time in the show. There were certainly not 100 White Walkers at the Winterfell battle. I believe this is the most WW's we were shown at once: The babies had to play an important part in the NK's plan - enough so that the NK actually made a truce with Craster on grounds he provided them his sons. The NK didn't strike me as someone to make a truce with anyone (let alone a human). In terms of GRRM... hmmmm I think you may be on to something. GRRM may have become discouraged by GOT getting to the end before him. He has said as a writer, he loses interest in writing a story when people can accurately guess where he's going with it. He's also stated that he's a very slow writer. He did a live event on stage with Stephen King some years ago where he was just amazed how King is able to write 10 pages a day. He said he just can't do that. Add in all the vast amount of mythology/history he's created for his world (on top of the multiple stories he has going on simultaneously), and he may never get to finishing those last 2 books, sadly. I think it may help to know that GRRM said that the show has only shown "one possible ending" for the story. What he means by that is unclear. Maybe GRRM will do like the Lord of the Rings movies where there's "multiple endings" to the story?
Yes, Benjen was killed off too quickly. I also thought the Blackfish was carelessly killed off by the writers. He could have been a great ally for Sansa, but it just seemed like they wanted to get rid of him...leaving the great warrior to be killed by Nameless Lannister Soldier #4...sheesh! I'm also still bitter about how they ended Stannis' storyline! I think so it sounds like he is planning it that way , im pretty sure years from now they will reboot the show for the newest generations, it was too popular not to , I would have liked to see a stand off between stannis/daenyrys , that would have been interesting maybe in the books he will do it that way I just don't think stannis will end in the hands of Brienne , blackfish the laziest killing off ever -NK babies a way of growing his army would have like to see how he communicated with Craster ..lol
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 12, 2020 18:12:47 GMT
I think so it sounds like he is planning it that way , im pretty sure years from now they will reboot the show for the newest generations, it was too popular not to , I would have liked to see a stand off between stannis/daenyrys , that would have been interesting maybe in the books he will do it that way I just don't think stannis will end in the hands of Brienne , blackfish the laziest killing off ever -NK babies a way of growing his army would have like to see how he communicated with Craster ..lol There is no Night King in the books and White Walkers can speak, albeit in an icy, screeching manner. They do in the Prologue. As to Craster, he is likely only the last of a long list and there are convincing hints at an older practice of delivering bastards through the "Snow Gate" until that fort was closed down after the visit of a Targaryen queen. There are fan theories that the "right of first night" was once the bastard making measure to supply the north with baby boys. Stannis will fall long before Daenerys turns up. He is already in deep trouble in the last book, suffering through the snow and facing disagreement from a part of his army, telling them to "pray harder" when they ask that sacrifices be made to the Lord of Light. Details will differ but the end will be similar. Shireen will burn and Stannis will die. The Blackfish was sacrificed as so many other things in S6. If the show is ever remade, it will undoubtedly have more of the juvenile junk of the original. Not a good thing.
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 12, 2020 21:10:43 GMT
I think so it sounds like he is planning it that way , im pretty sure years from now they will reboot the show for the newest generations, it was too popular not to , I would have liked to see a stand off between stannis/daenyrys , that would have been interesting maybe in the books he will do it that way I just don't think stannis will end in the hands of Brienne , blackfish the laziest killing off ever -NK babies a way of growing his army would have like to see how he communicated with Craster ..lol Haha yes, that would have been an interesting one. Both would demand the other to bend the knee, but neither would have. I imagine Dany would have brought up the fact that Stannis was the brother of the man who went to war against her father. I bet Melisandre would be interested in her dragons. Maybe Mel would have convinced Stannis to ally with Dany? After all, dragons produce fire and she may have stressed it was a sign from her god. The NK seemed not to have any direct contact with Craster. Everything seemed to be done through his underling White Walkers (like the one that tried to take baby Sam). Caster seemed to get his daughters to go along with the baby exchange by making deities out of the WW's. i.e. "Gift for the gods!" In terms of the one's claim that the NK doesn't exist in the books, that's just not true. We do learn about him in the books. The NK hasn't appeared in the books as far as we know, but he does exist.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 13, 2020 19:59:53 GMT
I think so it sounds like he is planning it that way , im pretty sure years from now they will reboot the show for the newest generations, it was too popular not to , I would have liked to see a stand off between stannis/daenyrys , that would have been interesting maybe in the books he will do it that way I just don't think stannis will end in the hands of Brienne , blackfish the laziest killing off ever -NK babies a way of growing his army would have like to see how he communicated with Craster ..lol There is no Night King in the books and White Walkers can speak, albeit in an icy, screeching manner. They do in the Prologue. As to Craster, he is likely only the last of a long list and there are convincing hints at an older practice of delivering bastards through the "Snow Gate" until that fort was closed down after the visit of a Targaryen queen. There are fan theories that the "right of first night" was once the bastard making measure to supply the north with baby boys. Stannis will fall long before Daenerys turns up. He is already in deep trouble in the last book, suffering through the snow and facing disagreement from a part of his army, telling them to "pray harder" when they ask that sacrifices be made to the Lord of Light. Details will differ but the end will be similar. Shireen will burn and Stannis will die. The Blackfish was sacrificed as so many other things in S6. If the show is ever remade, it will undoubtedly have more of the juvenile junk of the original. Not a good thing. Hi Leo , hope al is well , that's an interesting fan theory ,since on the show they went into the trouble introducing the NK , crafter ,baby boys etc.. They should have at least explain some of it .
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 13, 2020 20:03:45 GMT
I think so it sounds like he is planning it that way , im pretty sure years from now they will reboot the show for the newest generations, it was too popular not to , I would have liked to see a stand off between stannis/daenyrys , that would have been interesting maybe in the books he will do it that way I just don't think stannis will end in the hands of Brienne , blackfish the laziest killing off ever -NK babies a way of growing his army would have like to see how he communicated with Craster ..lol Haha yes, that would have been an interesting one. Both would demand the other to bend the knee, but neither would have. I imagine Dany would have brought up the fact that Stannis was the brother of the man who went to war against her father. I bet Melisandre would be interested in her dragons. Maybe Mel would have convinced Stannis to ally with Dany? After all, dragons produce fire and she may have stressed it was a sign from her god. The NK seemed not to have any direct contact with Craster. Everything seemed to be done through his underling White Walkers (like the one that tried to take baby Sam). Caster seemed to get his daughters to go along with the baby exchange by making deities out of the WW's. i.e. "Gift for the gods!" In terms of the one's claim that the NK doesn't exist in the books, that's just not true. We do learn about him in the books. The NK hasn't appeared in the books as far as we know, but he does exist. Ok then it makes sense having arya one of the main characters kill the NK guess he may appear way later in the books caster came off on the show like the lowest of the low abusing his own daughters for this sick exchange . i think if stannis saw danys Dragons he would have wanted them and since he had Targaryen blood would have been inetersting to see if the dragons had same reaction to him like they did with Jon , a lot of IF s lol
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Post by Marv on Feb 13, 2020 20:57:36 GMT
Yea...i just dont check this board as much anymore. Maybe if its still around when i do a rewatch.
Mostly on Film and TV general now... and Sports.
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