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Post by onethreetwo on Feb 4, 2020 16:31:03 GMT
By hardcore dramas I mean dramas without humor and dramas without action sequences. Just straight up serious drama.
1. Do you watch them?
2. Do you enjoy them?
3. What are some of your favorites?
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Post by koskiewicz on Feb 4, 2020 16:55:29 GMT
It is called "cinema verite"
Films that are unencumbered by comedic nonsense and CGI baloney.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Feb 4, 2020 17:33:29 GMT
Son of Saul is worth seeing. Harrowing with no happy ending.
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Post by onethreetwo on Feb 4, 2020 19:06:46 GMT
Carol (2015)
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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 4, 2020 19:09:04 GMT
"Desperate Characters" (1970) Not even an attempt at levity. Shirley MacLaine is excellent.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 4, 2020 20:33:01 GMT
All the time, Bergman, Antonioni, Fassbinder to name a few whose films for the most part avoid action or comedy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2020 21:24:36 GMT
All the time, Bergman, Antonioni, Fassbinder to name a few whose films for the most part avoid action or comedy Hardcore is a term I usually try to avoid. It sounds so excessive. Try these fries, they're hardcore!
On the subject of films that attempt to avoid comedy and or action, I watched Ratcatcher a little while ago. It's good. Doubly so for being somebody's first film. Scottish director (I think) who's since done We Need to Talk about Kevin.
I thought about it for a while after it was done because it's not a spectacle driven film. If you don't know it, it's about a sensitive preteen boy living in Glasgow, Scotland, whose family teeters on the brink of poverty, made worse by a city strike that leaves the neighborhood strewn with garbage. Garbage and rats being the lingering metaphors for poverty.
I wouldn't recommend it to 9 of 10 people but the one I would is the person who I think would find the ambition of telling a story with little sensory entertainment and exposition rewarding. It's dreary and bleak in tone and palette, just like the situation. I think there's themes about resisting becoming part of your surroundings and the indifference to it that comes just as easily from within as from the outside.
It's neat. For someone's first film, I thought it was pretty ambitious. In tone, it reminded me a little of Cria Cuervos by Carlos Saura, perhaps mostly because it also seems to lift the veil off the trope of happy childhoods.
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Post by vegalyra on Feb 4, 2020 21:42:04 GMT
Yes, yes and
l'avventura
is one of my favorites.
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Post by theravenking on Feb 4, 2020 22:15:39 GMT
21 Grams is the movie that comes to mind when I think of hardcore drama.
I have to be in the right mood for it, but yes, I like serious drama.
Although Michael Haneke is too hardcore for my taste.
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 5, 2020 7:25:30 GMT
Well as a general rule I prefer serious movies over comedies as I tend to like serious movies with an occasional bit of comedy vs those more straight comedy types and the like.
but what do you mean 'without humor'? ; like with no trace of humor, or just a limited amount? ; because I would imagine most serious drama types of movies, a good portion of them will have at least a small amount of humor.
but just off the top of my head, to list some movies among my favorites that are at least semi-inline with what you said...
-The American (2010) (this might not count as there is some action but the movie is largely a character study and slower paced)
-The Hustler (1961) (I am sure there is a bit of humor and all but not a movie that you think of comedy by any means. so I figured I would list it)
-Mr Brooks (2007) (technically it does have some action, but that stuff is the least interesting part of it as the most interesting stuff is basically action-less and I imagine there is some level of humor to but nothing worth noting)
-The Color of Money (1986) (I am sure there is a bit of humor and all but, close enough)
-Blood Simple (1984)
-Ex Machina (2015)
-The Artist and the Model (2012-2013) (I would imagine there is a bit of humor but close enough)
etc
but depending on how strict one is with action and especially any trace of humor, some(maybe all(?)) of those might not qualify.
but just going over my favorite movies, it does seem like once you pretty much remove action/comedy, the field is quite limited and might be VERY limited depending on how strict one is with the whole action/comedy stuff the OP mentioned.
bottom line... it depends on how strict the OP is with his no action/humor standard. if your extremely strict, then my guess is my answer is mostly NO to the topic. but if your not super strict, then my answer is probably YES to the topic.
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Post by Jason143 on Feb 5, 2020 15:10:44 GMT
Lincoln (2012). It might be the most talky talky film I've ever seen.
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