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Post by damngumby on Feb 10, 2020 2:07:18 GMT
BoP crashing and burning at the box office. How embarrassing!
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Post by thenolan on Feb 10, 2020 4:54:48 GMT
Ford v ferrari did well at the box office. its an indie flick made for a mature age group that made more than 100m USA and 200m world wide and got Oscar noms with best picture. Ford v ferrari was a hit for its type of movie that also includes 1917, Irishman, jojo rabbit and knives out. this movies are not meant to be blockbusters.
its a shame to see mcu just kicked by everyone. How is Feige not embarrassed that his movies are seen as immature crap.
Indie flick? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Being smarter than me shouldn't even be that hard, and you somehow managed to be a lot more idiotic than I am. 'Ford v Ferrari' is hardly an indie flick, as it was funded by a major film studio. If anything, 'Iron Man' fits the definition of indie flick a lot more than that. Also, I've never said that the film outright failed. It just wasn't a big success since its budget was about $97.6 million. it made its budget back. made over 100m in the USA and it did it under bad circumstances since the movie was part of the fox buy out, it could have been a bigger success but who cares Ford v ferrari is a masterpiece compared to this mcu silly kids flicks.
also get out of here saying iron man is an indie flick. Iron man is a major blockbuster that kicked off the mcu. it is one of the mcu flicks that fits the theme park narrative.
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Post by thenolan on Feb 10, 2020 4:55:39 GMT
BoP crashing and burning at the box office. How embarrassing! many films flops everyday, people deal and move on but hating on mcu is now here to stick and stay forever
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 10, 2020 5:28:28 GMT
Indie flick? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Being smarter than me shouldn't even be that hard, and you somehow managed to be a lot more idiotic than I am. 'Ford v Ferrari' is hardly an indie flick, as it was funded by a major film studio. If anything, 'Iron Man' fits the definition of indie flick a lot more than that. Also, I've never said that the film outright failed. It just wasn't a big success since its budget was about $97.6 million. it made its budget back. made over 100m in the USA and it did it under bad circumstances since the movie was part of the fox buy out, it could have been a bigger success but who cares Ford v ferrari is a masterpiece compared to this mcu silly kids flicks.
also get out of here saying iron man is an indie flick. Iron man is a major blockbuster that kicked off the mcu. it is one of the mcu flicks that fits the theme park narrative.
You have no idea what "indie flick" even means, do you? Since that's probably the case, I'll explain it to you - independent films are ones that are not made by a major film studio. Ford v Ferrari was made by a major studio, so it's not even an independent film by any sort of definition. Iron Man, on the other hand, was made by a studio that wasn't even that big at the time, so that film is much closer to the actual definition of independent film. And like I've said, Ford v Ferrari wasn't a flop. It just wasn't successful enough to recoup Fox's money loss of 2019.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 10, 2020 5:44:50 GMT
it made its budget back. made over 100m in the USA and it did it under bad circumstances since the movie was part of the fox buy out, it could have been a bigger success but who cares Ford v ferrari is a masterpiece compared to this mcu silly kids flicks.
also get out of here saying iron man is an indie flick. Iron man is a major blockbuster that kicked off the mcu. it is one of the mcu flicks that fits the theme park narrative.
You have no idea what "indie flick" even means, do you? Since that's probably the case, I'll explain it to you - independent films are ones that are not made by a major film studio. Ford v Ferrari was made by a major studio, so it's not even an independent film by any sort of definition. Iron Man, on the other hand, was made by a studio that wasn't even that big at the time, so that film is much closer to the actual definition of independent film. And like I've said, Ford v Ferrari wasn't a flop. It just wasn't successful enough to recoup Fox's money loss of 2019. Hell Marvel Studios even went the indie way to finance Ironman. Kevin Smith borrowed money on cc and sold his comic book collection to make Clerks. Marvel Studios used everyone of their final Ip as collateral to borrow the money to make Ironman. If Ironman bombed Marvel Studios would've failed and be fucked for a long time just like Kevin if Clerks failed.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 10, 2020 5:46:01 GMT
we need a Lars Von Trier superhero MCU movie.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 5:50:50 GMT
I don't need to watch the video to know you can't win em all. Tonight's a decent night, in my opinion. Joaquin Phoenix took it for Joker, which is good for him and the Joker. He's had no small number of roles, including roles for which he could have won.
Anyways, I don't know what this guy's deal is. From the description I was expecting more of a she. To me, it's just unfeasible to condescend to "amusement park movies" while defending amusement park movies from the other side. If the MCU being theme park movies is an issue for you, you shouldn't be going near the DCEU with a 12 foot barge pole.
I for one hope Birds of Prey is good, but unless it's someone else' idea to suit up for a night at the movies, I can hold out till it's on video. The trailer looks fine, I heard the odd decent review and Margot Robbie stands out as strong as Harley Quinn, Suicide Squad's most redeemable character.
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Post by damngumby on Feb 10, 2020 10:57:06 GMT
BoP crashing and burning at the box office. How embarrassing! many films flops everyday, people deal and move on but hating on mcu is now here to stick and stay forever As long as MCU films continue to make oodles of money and garner critical acclaim, a few envious butt-hurt haters matter not. It’s a (very) small price for the tremendous success the MCU and it’s fans have enjoyed, and will continue to enjoy. So, seethe on, Garth. Laughing at the likes of you is half the fun!
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Post by sostie on Feb 10, 2020 13:37:34 GMT
Indie flick? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Being smarter than me shouldn't even be that hard, and you somehow managed to be a lot more idiotic than I am. 'Ford v Ferrari' is hardly an indie flick, as it was funded by a major film studio. If anything, 'Iron Man' fits the definition of indie flick a lot more than that. Also, I've never said that the film outright failed. It just wasn't a big success since its budget was about $97.6 million. it made its budget back. made over 100m in the USA and it did it under bad circumstances since the movie was part of the fox buy out, it could have been a bigger success Let me guess...if Disney hadn't bought fox it would have been bigger
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Post by dazz on Feb 10, 2020 15:09:00 GMT
You have no idea what "indie flick" even means, do you? Since that's probably the case, I'll explain it to you - independent films are ones that are not made by a major film studio. Ford v Ferrari was made by a major studio, so it's not even an independent film by any sort of definition. Iron Man, on the other hand, was made by a studio that wasn't even that big at the time, so that film is much closer to the actual definition of independent film. And like I've said, Ford v Ferrari wasn't a flop. It just wasn't successful enough to recoup Fox's money loss of 2019. Hell Marvel Studios even went the indie way to finance Ironman. Kevin Smith borrowed money on cc and sold his comic book collection to make Clerks. Marvel Studios used everyone of their final Ip as collateral to borrow the money to make Ironman. If Ironman bombed Marvel Studios would've failed and be fucked for a long time just like Kevin if Clerks failed. If memory serves IM actually wasn't part of that deal, Marvel put the film rights of Avengers, Black Panther, Captain America, Shang Chi, Hawkeye and like 5 others up as collateral for a $500m or so loan to make films of all those IP's back in 04 or 05 I think it was, after that they regained the rights to Iron Man, Black Widow and Hulk and they decided Iron Man would be their first independent film, I read because he was the biggest name they had who had never been in live action before, and it worked, IM grossed more than they had borrowed, Hulk cost them money but then IM 2 also made them a shit load of cash, which ultimately led to Disney buying them outright.
I don't recall if Marvel had to find another way to finance Iron Man or if they were allowed to use the $500m to make whatever films they wanted to, but yeah Iron Man was an independent movie that was simply distributed by a major studio which is not uncommon for independent movies.
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Post by dazz on Feb 10, 2020 15:34:51 GMT
Indie flick? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Being smarter than me shouldn't even be that hard, and you somehow managed to be a lot more idiotic than I am. 'Ford v Ferrari' is hardly an indie flick, as it was funded by a major film studio. If anything, 'Iron Man' fits the definition of indie flick a lot more than that. Also, I've never said that the film outright failed. It just wasn't a big success since its budget was about $97.6 million. it made its budget back. made over 100m in the USA and it did it under bad circumstances since the movie was part of the fox buy out, it could have been a bigger success but who cares Ford v ferrari is a masterpiece compared to this mcu silly kids flicks.
also get out of here saying iron man is an indie flick. Iron man is a major blockbuster that kicked off the mcu. it is one of the mcu flicks that fits the theme park narrative.
Well yeah but only just barely, when you apply likely box office splits, the movie made just over it's production budget, meaning it would have lost money with the advertising, making it an actual flop in all likelihood.
As for Iron Man it was made for less than $50m more than FvF and was made by an independent studio, that's the thing if a movie is financed by a major studio they are not an independent movie, Marvel Studios was not a major studio back then, they weren't an arm of Disney but a start up film studio branching off of a comic book company.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 17:14:39 GMT
many films flops everyday, people deal and move on but hating on mcu is now here to stick and stay forever As long as MCU films continue to make oodles of money and garner critical acclaim, a few envious butt-hurt haters matter not. It’s a (very) small price for the tremendous success the MCU and it’s fans have enjoyed, and will continue to enjoy. So, seethe on, Garth. Laughing at the likes of you is half the fun! I was worried you guys would be lonely without DC Fan, but it seems you've found a new friend to play with. Good for you guys! I am happy for you!
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 10, 2020 17:15:33 GMT
Hell Marvel Studios even went the indie way to finance Ironman. Kevin Smith borrowed money on cc and sold his comic book collection to make Clerks. Marvel Studios used everyone of their final Ip as collateral to borrow the money to make Ironman. If Ironman bombed Marvel Studios would've failed and be fucked for a long time just like Kevin if Clerks failed. If memory serves IM actually wasn't part of that deal, Marvel put the film rights of Avengers, Black Panther, Captain America, Shang Chi, Hawkeye and like 5 others up as collateral for a $500m or so loan to make films of all those IP's back in 04 or 05 I think it was, after that they regained the rights to Iron Man, Black Widow and Hulk and they decided Iron Man would be their first independent film, I read because he was the biggest name they had who had never been in live action before, and it worked, IM grossed more than they had borrowed, Hulk cost them money but then IM 2 also made them a shit load of cash, which ultimately led to Disney buying them outright.
I don't recall if Marvel had to find another way to finance Iron Man or if they were allowed to use the $500m to make whatever films they wanted to, but yeah Iron Man was an independent movie that was simply distributed by a major studio which is not uncommon for independent movies.
You are right the money tied to the borrowed money couldn't be used on Ironman so they used internal money that was for getting Marvel Studios up off the ground. A lot of this is just accounting though. They couldn't use the money from the IP backed loan on Ironman. But if It bombed and it wouldve seriously fucked them to payback the loan that was backed. So while the loan couldn't be used on the movie directly the success of Ironman did directly effect that collateral
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Post by dazz on Feb 10, 2020 19:43:08 GMT
As long as MCU films continue to make oodles of money and garner critical acclaim, a few envious butt-hurt haters matter not. It’s a (very) small price for the tremendous success the MCU and it’s fans have enjoyed, and will continue to enjoy. So, seethe on, Garth. Laughing at the likes of you is half the fun! I was worried you guys would be lonely without DC Fan, but it seems you've found a new friend to play with. Good for you guys! I am happy for you! Where's DC-Fan gone?
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Post by sostie on Feb 10, 2020 20:10:42 GMT
I was worried you guys would be lonely without DC Fan, but it seems you've found a new friend to play with. Good for you guys! I am happy for you! Where's DC-Fan gone? Well he usually goes missing around Oscar time because his predictions are always laughably wrong. However, I do believe he was banned some weeks ago
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Post by thenolan on Feb 10, 2020 21:50:26 GMT
You have no idea what "indie flick" even means, do you? Since that's probably the case, I'll explain it to you - independent films are ones that are not made by a major film studio. Ford v Ferrari was made by a major studio, so it's not even an independent film by any sort of definition. Iron Man, on the other hand, was made by a studio that wasn't even that big at the time, so that film is much closer to the actual definition of independent film. And like I've said, Ford v Ferrari wasn't a flop. It just wasn't successful enough to recoup Fox's money loss of 2019. Hell Marvel Studios even went the indie way to finance Ironman. Kevin Smith borrowed money on cc and sold his comic book collection to make Clerks. Marvel Studios used everyone of their final Ip as collateral to borrow the money to make Ironman. If Ironman bombed Marvel Studios would've failed and be fucked for a long time just like Kevin if Clerks failed. So this was marvel before Disney took over and made it a theme park ride for little children who minds have yet to develop. meh, Bird of prey is better than captain marvel.
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Post by dazz on Feb 10, 2020 21:53:48 GMT
Well he usually goes missing around Oscar time because his predictions are always laughably wrong. However, I do believe he was banned some weeks ago I wonder what he did to get banned, the guy seemed to get a pass on a lot of his antagonistic ventures, what he finally do to get booted? or do you reckon it was just the straw that broke the camels back kind of situation?
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 10, 2020 23:22:49 GMT
Hell Marvel Studios even went the indie way to finance Ironman. Kevin Smith borrowed money on cc and sold his comic book collection to make Clerks. Marvel Studios used everyone of their final Ip as collateral to borrow the money to make Ironman. If Ironman bombed Marvel Studios would've failed and be fucked for a long time just like Kevin if Clerks failed. So this was marvel before Disney took over and made it a theme park ride for little children who minds have yet to develop. meh, Bird of prey is better than captain marvel. Disney buying Marvel turned out to be beneficial for the latter in a long run because they helped ousting Perlmutter, who was causing all sorts of production woes during Phase 1 and 2, but explaining that to you is going to be harder than explaining it to rat excrement, so what am I even doing here anyway.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 11, 2020 0:04:57 GMT
hardly. I think everyone has agreed mcu is immature crap. Logan is not even mcu, and the director of logan also trashed MCU.
its mcu that is backfiring on. I don't see anyone bringing mcu up again but their desperate fans who still want to argue mcu is good cinema when they are theme rides.
And 'Ford v Ferrari' didn't exactly do well at the box office, so you shot yourself in your foot. Does this guy have a mind of his own? Everything in that post is from what others have said. He doesn't even change the wording. He must have failed in school because his teacher saw that he was obviously copying other people's homework.
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Post by dazz on Feb 11, 2020 1:01:47 GMT
And 'Ford v Ferrari' didn't exactly do well at the box office, so you shot yourself in your foot. Does this guy have a mind of his own? Everything in that post is from what others have said. He doesn't even change the wording. He must have failed in school because his teacher saw that he was obviously copying other people's homework. Considering he never seems to comprehend what the person he is quoting is actually saying I would assume no he doesn't have a mind at all let alone one of his own, if he shared one with 12 drunken hobo's he'd be remarkably more intelligent alas the empty headed fool is mindless as he is witless and charmless.
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