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Post by dazz on Feb 16, 2020 5:12:44 GMT
I just saw Box Mojo's figure...yeah that can't be right. Makes no sense to jump that high prior to the weekend. By looking at it seems a bunch of countries opening weekend numbers hadn't been accounted for, if you look the opening weekend numbers internationally now tally up to almost $109m, which makes a little more sense, meaning so far only a reported $3m increase world wide since then, and also seems more fitting for how CBM's tend to make their cash, being heavily internationally driven and all.
Asia Pacific markets alone have opening weekend totals of over $50m, higher than the actual international opening weekend previously listed, so maybe certain markets were just slow releasing their numbers? remember when Endgame had made several million more than had been reported, maybe with the whole Coronavirus thing as slowed reporting down?
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Post by scabab on Feb 16, 2020 11:21:57 GMT
Well the figures should be released in about 6 hours so we'll know for sure then.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 16, 2020 16:59:24 GMT
At $142,873,302 on the-numbers...
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Post by dazz on Feb 16, 2020 17:28:29 GMT
Lol now $145m on BOM, well this isn't good, though I dunno if that includes this weekends international numbers or just the numbers for the 1st full week of release, the new set up is just so meh.
But back to the movie this doesn't look good, the first 2 weekends and it's still $100m away from low estimated break even point, and less than half way to more probable break even point of the movie...does not look good sadly.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 16, 2020 18:39:05 GMT
Lol now $145m on BOM, well this isn't good, though I dunno if that includes this weekends international numbers or just the numbers for the 1st full week of release, the new set up is just so meh. But back to the movie this doesn't look good, the first 2 weekends and it's still $100m away from low estimated break even point, and less than half way to more probable break even point of the movie...does not look good sadly. You think WB will put pressure or interference on SS2 in response?
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Post by scabab on Feb 16, 2020 19:57:44 GMT
It should be the international figures as of Sunday. That's usually how it always goes.
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Post by dazz on Feb 16, 2020 20:33:46 GMT
Lol now $145m on BOM, well this isn't good, though I dunno if that includes this weekends international numbers or just the numbers for the 1st full week of release, the new set up is just so meh. But back to the movie this doesn't look good, the first 2 weekends and it's still $100m away from low estimated break even point, and less than half way to more probable break even point of the movie...does not look good sadly. You think WB will put pressure or interference on SS2 in response? Nah JG is established with 2 $700/800m movies to back his play, one specifically being the movie SS was trying to be like, BOP on the other hand was helmed by a green director and a writer whose got 1 successful film to 2 flops on her record, and even then her one success is the least successful Transformers movie in the last 12 years, as well as being produced by one of the movies stars, no reason for them to interfere with Gunn who they likely would want to keep in good graces with as they know he is still working with Marvel so he doesn't need them, they also saw the out pour of support he got over the Disney firing so they wouldn't want to stir up that hornets nest by making him hate making the movie and getting them more bad press.
Just my guess though.
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Post by darkpast on Feb 17, 2020 18:13:51 GMT
Cheerleader Scott trying to spin it the best he can, i don't see this make money in theaters, it will probably hit profit from home video though. Studios don't make movies to break even.
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Post by dazz on Feb 17, 2020 22:17:57 GMT
Cheerleader Scott trying to spin it the best he can, i don't see this make money in theaters, it will probably hit profit from home video though. Studios don't make movies to break even. No but these films are also used as huge advertisements for their IP's which can generate interest which translates into 100's of millions of extras dollars per year for multiple years, if BOP collectively bolster the merch sales for most of the main characters in this movie by say $150m over the next 3 years, even if it made only makes $200m at the box office it will have been a big overall success even if it was a "flop", again BVS and JL collectively lost hundreds of millions for WB at the box office, but in the 2 years of those movies Batman grossed an additional $1b in merch sales over what it had in the couple of years before hand, so they lost say $200m to earn an extra $1b, that's $800m in extra profit over 2 years, that's a success and one they don't need to bonus the directors or actors for so more money for them too keep.
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Post by darkpast on Feb 17, 2020 23:09:37 GMT
Cheerleader Scott trying to spin it the best he can, i don't see this make money in theaters, it will probably hit profit from home video though. Studios don't make movies to break even. No but these films are also used as huge advertisements for their IP's which can generate interest which translates into 100's of millions of extras dollars per year for multiple years, if BOP collectively bolster the merch sales for most of the main characters in this movie by say $150m over the next 3 years, even if it made only makes $200m at the box office it will have been a big overall success even if it was a "flop", again BVS and JL collectively lost hundreds of millions for WB at the box office, but in the 2 years of those movies Batman grossed an additional $1b in merch sales over what it had in the couple of years before hand, so they lost say $200m to earn an extra $1b, that's $800m in extra profit over 2 years, that's a success and one they don't need to bonus the directors or actors for so more money for them too keep. BvS at least broke even at box office, JL probably lost money cause of massive reshoots
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Post by dazz on Feb 18, 2020 1:21:35 GMT
No but these films are also used as huge advertisements for their IP's which can generate interest which translates into 100's of millions of extras dollars per year for multiple years, if BOP collectively bolster the merch sales for most of the main characters in this movie by say $150m over the next 3 years, even if it made only makes $200m at the box office it will have been a big overall success even if it was a "flop", again BVS and JL collectively lost hundreds of millions for WB at the box office, but in the 2 years of those movies Batman grossed an additional $1b in merch sales over what it had in the couple of years before hand, so they lost say $200m to earn an extra $1b, that's $800m in extra profit over 2 years, that's a success and one they don't need to bonus the directors or actors for so more money for them too keep. BvS at least broke even at box office, JL probably lost money cause of massive reshoots Not according to Deadline, their breakdown has BVS losing I think $40m give or take $5m via theatrical release, it only turned a profit due to TV rights fee's and home media sales, though this doesn't include merchandise sales from the movie.
JL was doomed to lose money regardless as even if it didn't have reshoots it was still a $200-250m production, add on $120-180m in marketing low end you are talking a $320m cost, on a movie that didn't even make $700m, and at absolute best you are talking just below 50% return on a blockbusters box office, more if it's only a domestic release which no blockbusters are, even SW with their higher negotiated percentages and almost 50/50 domestic to international splits don't take back 50% of the total box office, without looking it up JL would have likely been lucky to be getting a 45% return on their box office, which wouldn't have made it profitable even at that low end of the cost if they made $700m.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 20, 2020 10:02:04 GMT
Up to $147,117,174. I'll be adding my coin this weekend. The guys are split half wanting to see Sonic the other half wanting to she Harley. I'm probably going to see both with them.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 23, 2020 19:45:07 GMT
The estimates currently put it at $173,729,015.
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Post by onethreetwo on Feb 23, 2020 19:57:11 GMT
No joke it's probably time to reboot the character. Go younger and hotter.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 23, 2020 20:00:06 GMT
No joke it's probably time to reboot the character. Go younger and hotter. Younger? I’m assuming this is a joke, because Margot Robbie isn’t even 30 yet. If anything, she was too young when she first started playing the character. Harley Quinn’s background involves her being someone with a PhD, and the movie suggested that she was working with the Joker for a while, yet Robbie was only 24/25 when the movie was filmed.
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Post by onethreetwo on Feb 23, 2020 20:06:34 GMT
No joke it's probably time to reboot the character. Go younger and hotter. Younger? I’m assuming this is a joke, because Margot Robbie isn’t even 30 yet. If anything, she was too young when she first started playing the character. Harley Quinn’s background involves her being someone with a PhD, and the movie suggested that she was working with the Joker for a while, yet Robbie was only 24/25 when the movie was filmed. I'd go for someone 18...19 tops. The hottest blonde with the best ass I could find.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 23, 2020 20:56:59 GMT
No joke it's probably time to reboot the character. Go younger and hotter. That seems excessive.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 23, 2020 21:00:24 GMT
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Post by dazz on Feb 24, 2020 3:24:13 GMT
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 25, 2020 10:00:01 GMT
Up to $173,426,018. Wonder if it will hit 225-250m.
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