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Post by dazz on Feb 9, 2020 14:07:09 GMT
Honestly...not sure why DC thought Birds of Prey was gonna be this huge hit. I don't think they did, hence the lower budget, it could still be a success but it likely wont be a huge hit, but a reason people thought it could be is due to Robbie being this "massive" star, even though 2 of her last 4 bigger releases flopped outright, and just before and after Suicide Squad came out Harley was one of the most popular cosplay characters at conventions and stuff.
But hey atleast they had some reason to believe in it this time, as opposed to when the studios just decided for no reason at all this random person is going to be the next huge star like they did with both Jai Courtney and Sam Worthington.
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Post by Marv on Feb 9, 2020 14:12:23 GMT
Perusing the twitters and i gotta say...9 out of 10 tweets are along the lines of 'just watched a film of badass women beating up men for 2 hours and it was awesome' or 'you know why pervy incel men are mad cuz women are crossing into comic book territory'...etc and so forth...
I just wanna state for me, and people like me...I have absolutely zero issue with a movie about women beating up men. Some of my favorite movies involve women beating up men. But when it turns into this sexism, feminism, agenda driven angle...i check out. Was i gonna go see this? Probably not. But seeing the rabble rousers get all bent out of shape and blaming the patriarchy for a bad opening weekend will GUARANTEE i don't go see it.
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Post by miike80 on Feb 9, 2020 20:03:37 GMT
Wait, wasn't this suppose to be the most anticipated movie of the year?
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Post by ck100 on Feb 10, 2020 0:46:18 GMT
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Post by maxwellperfect on Feb 10, 2020 2:21:11 GMT
Eh, I just find the Harley Quinn character annoying. People thought Black Widow was the weak link in Avengers, but HQ is just a crazy chick with a baseball bat for crying out loud! Also, it annoys me how HQ takes the spotlight from more venerable DC characters such as Huntress and Black Canary.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Feb 10, 2020 4:40:49 GMT
Eh, I just find the Harley Quinn character annoying. People thought Black Widow was the weak link in Avengers, but HQ is just a crazy chick with a baseball bat for crying out loud! Also, it annoys me how HQ takes the spotlight from more venerable DC characters such as Huntress and Black Canary. She makes a good sidekick for the Joker in Batman: The Animated Series, but isn't really suited to being the main event. Kind of like how a Robin movie would be of far less interest if it didn't feature Batman.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 10, 2020 4:53:19 GMT
i Sort of feel like one of the other characters would've made a better main character.
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Post by Harmless elf on Feb 10, 2020 4:53:37 GMT
Eh, I just find the Harley Quinn character annoying. People thought Black Widow was the weak link in Avengers, but HQ is just a crazy chick with a baseball bat for crying out loud! Also, it annoys me how HQ takes the spotlight from more venerable DC characters such as Huntress and Black Canary. She makes a good sidekick for the Joker in Batman: The Animated Series, but isn't really suited to being the main event. Kind of like how a Robin movie would be of far less interest if it didn't feature Batman. yep Harley Quinn was the comic relief side character that's what her appeal was overexposure doesn't work for someone like her. do you know before Harley Quinn hit the big screen she was the second most popular DC character after Superman? People loved her cuz they felt like she was a hidden secret now she just sucks. |
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Post by jonesjxd on Feb 10, 2020 5:20:59 GMT
R-Rating and a January release date were always going to hinder this movies success.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Feb 10, 2020 6:40:06 GMT
She makes a good sidekick for the Joker in Batman: The Animated Series, but isn't really suited to being the main event. Kind of like how a Robin movie would be of far less interest if it didn't feature Batman. yep Harley Quinn was the comic relief side character that's what her appeal was overexposure doesn't work for someone like her. do you know before Harley Quinn hit the big screen she was the second most popular DC character after Superman? People loved her cuz they felt like she was a hidden secret now she just sucks. Surely Batman would have been the most popular DC character alongside Superman? And what about the Joker?
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Post by Harmless elf on Feb 10, 2020 7:02:27 GMT
yep Harley Quinn was the comic relief side character that's what her appeal was overexposure doesn't work for someone like her. do you know before Harley Quinn hit the big screen she was the second most popular DC character after Superman? People loved her cuz they felt like she was a hidden secret now she just sucks. Surely Batman would have been the most popular DC character alongside Superman? And what about the Joker? You would think that but no. The reason Harley Quinn became so popular around the mid-2010s is because she became very popular with women but she's also popular with guys too, she hits both demographics a lot of the male superheroes only hit one. I think a lot less guys like her now though. |
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Feb 10, 2020 7:12:10 GMT
Surely Batman would have been the most popular DC character alongside Superman? And what about the Joker? You would think that but no. The reason Harley Quinn became so popular around the mid-2010s is because she became very popular with women but she's also popular with guys too, she hits both demographics a lot of the male superheroes only hit one. I think a lot less guys like her now though. That truly surprises me. I mean, I knew she was popular. And with good reason. But more so than Batman? That just feels...wrong.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 10, 2020 8:28:11 GMT
According to WW figures, it has pretty much broke even with its budget of around 80mill, and that is just in the first few days. Lets give it another week.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 10, 2020 8:30:17 GMT
According to WW figures, it has pretty much broke even with its budget of around 80mill, and that is just in the first few days. Lets give it another week. it was definitely expected at at least a 80-90 million opening, it may make it to around 70-80 with legs but this movies dead.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 10, 2020 8:34:10 GMT
According to WW figures, it has pretty much broke even with its budget of around 80mill, and that is just in the first few days. Lets give it another week. it was definitely expected at at least a 80-90 million opening, it may make it to around 70-80 with legs but this movies dead. It is nice if a movie can break even with a high budget within its own country of origin. At 80mill, that is pretty much an average budget in this day and age. It may take a few weeks just domestic alone, but ww, should put it well over the finish line, even if not as popular as anticipated.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 10, 2020 8:35:58 GMT
it was definitely expected at at least a 80-90 million opening, it may make it to around 70-80 with legs but this movies dead. It is nice if a movie can break even with a high budget within its own country of origin. At 80mill, that is pretty much an average budget in this day and age. It may take a few weeks just domestic alone, but ww, should put it well over the finish line, even if not as popular as anticipated. its still bombing in China though which really isn't good news, and even with worldwide numbers breaking even its still under performing.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 10, 2020 8:58:50 GMT
It is nice if a movie can break even with a high budget within its own country of origin. At 80mill, that is pretty much an average budget in this day and age. It may take a few weeks just domestic alone, but ww, should put it well over the finish line, even if not as popular as anticipated. its still bombing in China though which really isn't good news, and even with worldwide numbers breaking even its still under performing. I think due to the current circumstances in China, most things would be bombing. I haven't seen the film yet, but would like too, I don't see the film as being a mega flop of the likes of Charlie's Angels.
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Post by dazz on Feb 10, 2020 13:17:24 GMT
its still bombing in China though which really isn't good news, and even with worldwide numbers breaking even its still under performing. I think due to the current circumstances in China, most things would be bombing. I haven't seen the film yet, but would like too, I don't see the film as being a mega flop of the likes of Charlie's Angels. Yeah doubt the China run has anything to do with the movie, just the situation is not suited for major movie releases right now, which is why a number of films have pushed back their china release dates, I guess BOP was just too close to coming out to do so?
As for could it be a flop, eh maybe, due to how much lower than expectations it made, I think at one point it was expected to gross well over $100m opening weekend world wide, so to only barely make over $80m is a bad sign, means it will need to make well over 3.5x it's opening to just break even, not impossible, TROS just did the same thing after a relatively weak opening, so BOP could do it also, but it will be a bit of a grind, at this point a rough guess is if BOP makes only $200m at the split it has now it would "earn" about $90m, enough to cover production but not enough to also cover marketing, and by how much it would lose would depend on how much a marketing budget it had.
Never know though this could be a massive hit Valentines weekend for pissed off single women wanting to see a crazy woman fresh out of a relationship fuck shit up and leave her mark, you never know.
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Post by Jason143 on Feb 10, 2020 13:29:24 GMT
You have to ask yourself, why was Suicide Squad a big hit financially and not BoP (most likely)? Both are/were unknown properties.
My guess would be that SS had The Joker in it. Harley Quinn was a lot more sexier in SS than here in BoP. And Batman was also shown in the trailers.
Take those 3 things out and you're left with BoP.
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Post by dazz on Feb 10, 2020 14:52:48 GMT
You have to ask yourself, why was Suicide Squad a big hit financially and not BoP (most likely)? Both are/were unknown properties. My guess would be that SS had The Joker in it. Harley Quinn was a lot more sexier in SS than here in BoP. And Batman was also shown in the trailers. Take those 3 things out and you're left with BoP. You also forgot the marketing for Suicide Squad got people hyped up, that wasn't the case with BOP, which is sad because according to a lot of people I have seen talk about the movie it is far and away the much more entertaining of the two movies, the marketing for BOP was creative at times but not engaging, the Batman & Joker thing is a point also but not so much them specifically but just identifiable characters, if Batgirl had been in the movie and the marketing it would have been much more identifiable and would have hooked more people is my guess.
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