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Post by politicidal on Feb 12, 2020 2:46:31 GMT
Because as I mentioned they already have a category of foreign films up for a "Best of" award and I think them there ferners that dont speek inglish shuld sta there in thet catagori. Irrelevant viewpoint. Best Picture is for Best Picture. That would include foreign, American, English, animated, and even documentary. Get this bedlamite an alienist posthaste! |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2020 9:55:18 GMT
Nope! If they want it to be an international award show, then disperse of the foreign\international category. That is what it exists for. Ultimately, Oscars need to be honoring films that are made in America and other ENGLISH language films. Are they saying they aren't making enough quality films domestically, that they have to sidestep over this to throw a bone to foreign language cinema too? Way to undermine themselves and how diverse of the "woke" Academy!  Next year, all nominees will be female and black, even in the male acting categories. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2020 10:07:04 GMT
This thread makes me feel warm and fuzzy. It's hilarious. God Bless Bong Joon Ho and NEON for outing all the Xenophobes. How virtuous and woke of you, to want others to think how wonderful and squeaky clean you are.
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Post by spoonyrumble on Feb 12, 2020 10:08:32 GMT
I thought they already had a separate category for that? So WTF is a movie with subtitles doing going up against American made movies that don't need them? I guess they had to seem woke since there were, again, not enough movies with blacks in them. So they put up this one and it "won" just to make it seem diverse. If this doesn't prove to everyone once and for all that the Oscars is nothing but a bullshit sham of an awards show, I dunno what will. Yeah I dont claim to be an expert on the Oscars but I was suprised that Parasite was not in a foreign catagory.
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Post by nostromo on Feb 12, 2020 10:08:34 GMT
Nope! If they want it to be an international award show, then disperse of the foreign\international category. That is what it exists for. Ultimately, Oscars need to be honoring films that are made in America and other ENGLISH language films. Are they saying they aren't making enough quality films domestically, that they have to sidestep over this to throw a bone to foreign language cinema too? Way to undermine themselves and how diverse of the "woke" Academy! Next year, all nominees will be female and black, even in the male acting categories. I'd have no real problem with that, but they would need to change the title of the award from "best picture" to "best picture in the English language" Then they'd obviously get vilified for not allowing "foreigners" to be included in their top prize. So, no, it ain't going to happen. It's a global film awards ceremony.
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Post by Winter_King on Feb 12, 2020 10:12:37 GMT
If there is a category called best picture, then yes. Foreign movies should definitely be considered.
It would probably make more sense to have a separate category for best American film.
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Post by nostromo on Feb 12, 2020 10:16:44 GMT
This thread makes me feel warm and fuzzy. It's hilarious. God Bless Bong Joon Ho and NEON for outing all the Xenophobes. How virtuous and woke of you, to want others to think how wonderful and squeaky clean you are. "Waaaa, It's not fair, a subtitled film won best picture. I can't read subtitles fast enough and make my eyes watch a movie at the same time. waaaaa"
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2020 10:16:55 GMT
I'm perfectly okay with Parasite winning best picture, but I wish it hadn't won best foreign language pic, there were some other really worthy nominees in that category, smaller movies which would've deserved to win too. Winning both best picture and best foreign language picture seems just too much to me. I know logically it had to win in the foreign category, since it also won best film, but to me this is just awards overkill. Yes! How can it not be the best foreign language film, if it was nominated for best picture as well. Honeyland won neither of its awards though and that was up for doco feature and international feature. Very odd!
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2020 10:24:29 GMT
Nope! If they want it to be an international award show, then disperse of the foreign\international category. That is what it exists for. Ultimately, Oscars need to be honoring films that are made in America and other ENGLISH language films. Are they saying they aren't making enough quality films domestically, that they have to sidestep over this to throw a bone to foreign language cinema too? Way to undermine themselves and how diverse of the "woke" Academy! Next year, all nominees will be female and black, even in the male acting categories. I'd have no real problem with that, but they would need to change the title of the award from "best picture" to "best picture in the English language" Then they'd obviously get vilified for not allowing "foreigners" to be included in their top prize. So, no, it ain't going to happen. It's a global film awards ceremony. Best Picture, should automatically be for American produced films in English, or films in the English language. They don't need to change that title aspect at all, it should be written in by default.
It honors globally in other categories, including the foreign language category. I guess the Academy is just telling themselves and others they made shit, so their own films weren't worth winning. Look, best is all subjective anyway and that makes it a farce right there.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2020 10:29:20 GMT
How virtuous and woke of you, to want others to think how wonderful and squeaky clean you are. "Waaaa, It's not fair, a subtitled film won best picture. I can't read subtitles fast enough and make my eyes watch a movie at the same time. waaaaa" That is your own strawman you have just projected. Dances With Wolves won picture and I think that is a masterful film and is largely subtitled. However, it is a slice of Americana about native Americans. You probably wouldn't care for that film anyway, because you are a pretentious film snob.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2020 10:36:53 GMT
Because as I mentioned they already have a category of foreign films up for a "Best of" award and I think them there ferners that dont speek inglish shuld sta there in thet catagori. Irrelevant viewpoint. Best Picture is for Best Picture. That would include foreign, American, English, animated, and even documentary. Best in whose eyes anyway? I guess now, Amercan produced films need to up their act, if they can't make films as well, or as deserving as a foreign language film, that only film snobs will care about.
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Post by nostromo on Feb 12, 2020 10:37:46 GMT
I'd have no real problem with that, but they would need to change the title of the award from "best picture" to "best picture in the English language" Then they'd obviously get vilified for not allowing "foreigners" to be included in their top prize. So, no, it ain't going to happen. It's a global film awards ceremony. Best Picture, should automatically be for American produced films in English, or films in the English language. They don't need to change that title aspect at all, it should be written in by default.
It honors globally in other categories, including the foreign language category. I guess the Academy is just telling themselves and others they made shit, so their own films weren't worth winning. Look, best is all subjective anyway and that makes it a farce right there.
That makes no sense. It's a global awards ceremony. That's like the Olympic high jump event being open only to English speaking athletes. It's either best picture. In film. Or best English Language film. You can't have your xenophobic cake and eat it here.
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Post by nostromo on Feb 12, 2020 10:38:40 GMT
Irrelevant viewpoint. Best Picture is for Best Picture. That would include foreign, American, English, animated, and even documentary. I guess now, Amercan produced films need to up their act Yes they do. They are mostly awful.
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Post by nostromo on Feb 12, 2020 10:39:27 GMT
"Waaaa, It's not fair, a subtitled film won best picture. I can't read subtitles fast enough and make my eyes watch a movie at the same time. waaaaa" That is your own strawman you have just projected. Dances With Wolves won picture and I think that is a masterful film and is largely subtitled. However, it is a slice of Americana about native Americans. You probably wouldn't care for that film anyway, because you are a pretentious film snob.
What makes me a pretentious film snob? (Dances with Wolves is a fantastic film by the way)
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2020 10:46:59 GMT
Best Picture, should automatically be for American produced films in English, or films in the English language. They don't need to change that title aspect at all, it should be written in by default.
It honors globally in other categories, including the foreign language category. I guess the Academy is just telling themselves and others they made shit, so their own films weren't worth winning. Look, best is all subjective anyway and that makes it a farce right there.
That makes no sense. It's a global awards ceremony. That's like the Olympic high jump event being open only to English speaking athletes. It's either best picture. In film. Or best English Language film. You can't have your xenophobic cake and eat it here. It is an Amercian film institute, not about sporting events like the Olympics that is supposed to be about bringing the world together.
Are you saying that the English language film industry, now has to make compensations for foreign language films, just to prove how "non-xenophobic" they are? Why do they really need to prove anything? Hollywood and the Academy are constantly getting derided for it's lack of non-diversity and sexism and racism, so they aren't doing that good a job regardless. Do you want your phony, snowflake, posturing virtue signalling cake and eat it too.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2020 10:50:14 GMT
I guess now, American produced films need to up their act Yes they do. They are mostly awful. What a predictable response from you. Well, the awfulness also makes money to produce the quality. Not that you would see it, even though what American films produce, have inspired many foreign film-makers. You must be one dull and boring person to be around.
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Post by Winter_King on Feb 12, 2020 10:51:57 GMT
"Waaaa, It's not fair, a subtitled film won best picture. I can't read subtitles fast enough and make my eyes watch a movie at the same time. waaaaa" That is your own strawman you have just projected. Dances With Wolves won picture and I think that is a masterful film and is largely subtitled. However, it is a slice of Americana about native Americans. You probably wouldn't care for that film anyway, because you are a pretentious film snob.
It won but it shouldn't have. Goodfellas was robbed.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2020 10:52:07 GMT
That is your own strawman you have just projected. Dances With Wolves won picture and I think that is a masterful film and is largely subtitled. However, it is a slice of Americana about native Americans. You probably wouldn't care for that film anyway, because you are a pretentious film snob.
What makes me a pretentious film snob? (Dances with Wolves is a fantastic film by the way) Oh, of course. It had subtitles, so that must give it some merit in your superior highbrow cinematic psyche.
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Post by nostromo on Feb 12, 2020 10:55:41 GMT
That makes no sense. It's a global awards ceremony. That's like the Olympic high jump event being open only to English speaking athletes. It's either best picture. In film. Or best English Language film. You can't have your xenophobic cake and eat it here. It is an Amercian film institute, not about sporting events like the Olympics that is supposed to be about bringing the world together.
Are you saying that the English language film industry, now has to make compensations for foreign language films, just to prove how "non-xenophobic" they are? Why do they really need to prove anything? Hollywood and the Academy are constantly getting derided for it's lack of non-diversity and sexism and racism, so they aren't doing that good a job regardless. Do you want your phony, snowflake, posturing virtue signalling cake and eat it too.
Sometimes the best film of the year isn't in the English language. That's not caving into diversity. It's just a thing.
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Post by nostromo on Feb 12, 2020 10:57:16 GMT
What makes me a pretentious film snob? (Dances with Wolves is a fantastic film by the way) Oh, of course. It had subtitles, so that must give it some merit in your superior highbrow cinematic psyche. Lolz at your anger. I'm certainly not superior to anything or anyone. The only one stating that is you. It seems you have a huge inferiority complex here. I suggest you go and watch some Kieslowski or Kore-eda to sooth your soul.
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