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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Feb 12, 2020 21:46:30 GMT
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 12, 2020 22:04:21 GMT
It's fine. This doesn't mean it's locked in for 900yrs like it or not. Baseball has got to start trying things, lest they age themselves out of the landscape.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Feb 12, 2020 22:18:31 GMT
I'm torn.
Speeds up the game - but IMO takes away from the chess match a bit just like limiting the # of times a pitcher can be visited on the mound.
I don't like it.
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Post by _ on Feb 12, 2020 22:21:46 GMT
It's stupid.
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Post by mr_self on Feb 12, 2020 22:29:22 GMT
That 3 batter rule is garbage.  |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Feb 12, 2020 22:31:04 GMT
I'm surprised this went through. I wonder if some teams will be less apt to pinch hit for their pitcher in like the 6th inning or so if they have a weak bullpen. This can really change the tide of some games if you don't have a strong pen/middle relief that gets lit up on a consistent basis.
Let's say a middle reliever comes in with the bases juiced and gives up a grand slam and you'd prefer to yank him and go to another pitcher but can't - he then faces hitter #2 and walks him - then hitter #3 and gives up another homer - that's 6 runs all because you had to stick with the bum.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 12, 2020 22:42:12 GMT
I'm torn. Speeds up the game - but IMO takes away from the chess match a bit just like limiting the # of times a pitcher can be visited on the mound. I don't like it. Chess match 2020: sitting on fastballs & hack for the fences.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Feb 12, 2020 22:49:21 GMT
I'm torn. Speeds up the game - but IMO takes away from the chess match a bit just like limiting the # of times a pitcher can be visited on the mound. I don't like it. Chess match 2020: sitting on fastballs & hack for the fences. Think runs per game may be up a bit this year because of this?
I mean - more offense/excitement is always good for the casual crowd.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 12, 2020 23:13:02 GMT
Chess match 2020: sitting on fastballs & hack for the fences. Think runs per game may be up a bit this year because of this?
I mean - more offense/excitement is always good for the casual crowd.
The goal for the next decade, at least, will be shortening the duration of games. I don't even think baseball cares if they're 3-2 ballgames or 13-12. If kids can be in bed before 11pm, it's a plus.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Feb 12, 2020 23:21:25 GMT
Think runs per game may be up a bit this year because of this?
I mean - more offense/excitement is always good for the casual crowd.
The goal for the next decade, at least, will be shortening the duration of games. I don't even think baseball cares if they're 3-2 ballgames or 13-12. If kids can be in bed before 11pm, it's a plus. I agree they're concerned about the length of games but -
I think they'd like to see more offense too to draw in the casual viewer.
I enjoy a 1-0 pitching duel. I think the casual fan wants to see more offense though - better for ratings IMO.
I'm a big believer they doctored balls last year - and also a big believer they looked the other way during the McGwire/Sosa extravaganza years ago in regards to the steroid era.
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Post by fjenkins on Feb 12, 2020 23:37:26 GMT
It will make zero difference in the overall time of the game and take away a manager's ability to manage a part of the game. More stupidity by the idiots running baseball.
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Post by millar70 on Feb 12, 2020 23:37:52 GMT
It totally dumbs down the game, which makes it perfect for our times.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Feb 12, 2020 23:48:37 GMT
I'm torn. Speeds up the game - but IMO takes away from the chess match a bit just like limiting the # of times a pitcher can be visited on the mound. I don't like it. I assume you're referring to the "3 batter minimum" rule? Read an article (ESPN?) a couple months back showing how rare the "1 batter specialist" is now. If I can remember correctly, not only is it much less rare the last couple seasons, it's not heavily leaned in the NL, and the most often employed pitcher in that manner was actually a righty in the AL (I want to say Minnesota or Cleveland). So unless there are A LOT of pitchers coming in to face 2 batters, I don't think this rule will make any difference. Furthermore, if say the Cards are facing the Phillies in the playoffs, I'd prefer they be able to bring in a lefty in the late innings to face Harper in a pressure situation, and then replace him with a righty (if say Bryant is on deck).
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Post by SportsFan19 on Feb 12, 2020 23:49:39 GMT
Think runs per game may be up a bit this year because of this?
I mean - more offense/excitement is always good for the casual crowd.
The goal for the next decade, at least, will be shortening the duration of games. I don't even think baseball cares if they're 3-2 ballgames or 13-12. If kids can be in bed before 11pm, it's a plus. What's the average length of an NFL game compared to an MLB game? They don't seem to be under the same thumb in regards to length of game.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 12, 2020 23:59:45 GMT
The death of the LOOGY.
I’m okay with this. Baseball got along just fine without 22 pitching changes in the past. It’s my favorite sport but I think the pace of play is getting bad
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 13, 2020 0:02:00 GMT
In 1981, the average duration of a baseball game was 2:33. In 2019, it was 3:05. What is that 32 minutes going to? Pitching changes, pitchers taking forever to throw the ball, batters getting out of the box . . . 32 minutes of nothingness.
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Post by millar70 on Feb 13, 2020 0:09:18 GMT
In 1981, the average duration of a baseball game was 2:33. In 2019, it was 3:05. What is that 32 minutes going to? Pitching changes, pitchers taking forever to throw the ball, batters getting out of the box . . . 32 minutes of nothingness. Commercials, ad-time, sponsors, talking heads in the booth paying little attention to the actual game but instead prattling on endlessly about contracts and the "big picture". All of this stuff takes time to do. Unless baseball wants to seriously tackle this stuff (and they never will), the pace of the game will get slower and slower. |
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 13, 2020 0:18:09 GMT
In 1981, the average duration of a baseball game was 2:33. In 2019, it was 3:05. What is that 32 minutes going to? Pitching changes, pitchers taking forever to throw the ball, batters getting out of the box . . . 32 minutes of nothingness. Commercials, ad-time, sponsors, talking heads in the booth paying little attention to the actual game but instead prattling on endlessly about contracts and the "big picture". All of this stuff takes time to do. Unless baseball wants to seriously tackle this stuff (and they never will), the pace of the game will get slower and slower. But weren't those all there in 1981 as well? There weren't as many nationally televised games, but even when I had a 13 channel television, I had access to Phillies, Yankees, Mets, and Orioles games. Even back then, Bill White and Phil Rizzuto talked about everything but the game (although I loved hearing them call a game).
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Post by NJtoTX on Feb 13, 2020 2:06:22 GMT
Too extreme. Maybe after a reliever pitches to only 1 batter it kicks in for later relievers. Also, in the NL, a pitcher might have to bat if he's only faced 1 or 2 batters.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 13, 2020 5:00:53 GMT
Next, there'll be a basketball clock!
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