TheSowIsMine
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Feb 15, 2020 11:32:51 GMT
EPL has different rules for FFP.
I believe there is very little difference though is there not? Its a pretty big difference .In the Uefa fair play you can have a loss up to 45 million if the club owner has the money to pay for the loss, in EPL its 105 million.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Feb 15, 2020 12:49:21 GMT
I believe there is very little difference though is there not? Its a pretty big difference .In the Uefa fair play you can have a loss up to 45 million if the club owner has the money to pay for the loss, in EPL its 105 million.
That's madness if that's the case given that the EPL is the gateway competition into the Champions League. It's like the EPL saying - go ahead, cheat yourself into a competition you aren't entitled to enter... Weird. FIFA should set a limit. EUFA should be able to set a limit below that and individual leagues should be able to set limits below that if they wish, not the other way around though. |
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Post by Xcalatë on Feb 15, 2020 13:57:39 GMT
Good to hear but knowing UEFA and all the money involved they will probably end up with a much lighter sentence if any. won't be up to them though, will it? they have made their charges and applied the penalty, can only be changed by the Sports arbitration court. I would guess that the 2 years ban was in purpose in the expectation of it being kicked back to one (which it shouldn't). If this is over the hyper inflated sponsorship deal from another arm of their owner's financial empire, why has City got away with it in the EPL? Under FFP or whatever it is now called they should have had in the past a 12 point deduction of points, only reason for it not to have happened were it being held back to align with the same time line as UEFA.If so they should now, immediately be docked 12 points in the EPL. Either way, they will struggle to attract big names in the summer window, now. Yeah you are right just read City is taking it to SAC so we'll see.
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Post by Zos on Feb 15, 2020 17:36:42 GMT
I believe there is very little difference though is there not? Its a pretty big difference .In the Uefa fair play you can have a loss up to 45 million if the club owner has the money to pay for the loss, in EPL its 105 million.
This is not to do with operating losses though, this is to do with the part relating to getting value for money sponsorship as far as I can tell. The operating loss part of FFP is not the only aspect that has to be obeyed.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Feb 16, 2020 11:41:15 GMT
Says here:- www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8008205/Manchester-Citys-Premier-League-title-2014-THREAT.htmlthat the £105 million figure is over three seasons not one. So it's not really that the EPL is less stringent, just that you could get away with a bigger spend in one season as long as you balanced the books the next. In fact £105m is indeed less than £135m over the three years, so the EPL is actually tighter in terms of spending over the full period... The 2013/14 title could be taken from them apparently. |
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Post by michaellevenson on Feb 16, 2020 13:44:29 GMT
The whole problem is down to the huge finances on offer in the CL , this creates a situation whereby leagues in Europe are turning into boring processions. Bayern Munich, Juventus, PSG. The only way to get into the CL on a regular basis is to throw money at the problem. This is what Man City did,so I have some sympathy with them. The whole point of FFP was to protect the big clubs in perpetuity nothing to do with fairness. The occasional fairytale like Leicester can happen, but without huge spending it is not sustainable. Now if UEFA gave just 25% of prize money to the clubs and 75% to the leagues that would create real fairness. Of course it'll never happen.
BTW talk is that Pochettino is the target if Pep walks away.
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Feb 16, 2020 13:47:10 GMT
Says here:- www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8008205/Manchester-Citys-Premier-League-title-2014-THREAT.htmlthat the £105 million figure is over three seasons not one. So it's not really that the EPL is less stringent, just that you could get away with a bigger spend in one season as long as you balanced the books the next. In fact £105m is indeed less than £135m over the three years, so the EPL is actually tighter in terms of spending over the full period... The 2013/14 title could be taken from them apparently.
The 3 years span also applies to the UEFA rules. And right now its €30 million(the 45 mill was at the start of the ffp, they lowered it over time).
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 16, 2020 14:29:59 GMT
Good
But 2 years is to little, they should be banned from playing in Europe for 10 years and they should also be banned from buying new players for 5 years. And frankly they should also be kicked out of the league system in England down to the Northern Premier League, And have to start the season with -50 points and give them a fine of $750 million USD. They should of course also lose all the 13 titles won between 2012 and 2019
That would be a proper punishment.
And yes i know that it will never happen, but that is the punishment i think they should get
And the same punishment should also go to any other team from any country that breaks the rules as Manchester City did.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Feb 16, 2020 16:15:24 GMT
Says here:- www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8008205/Manchester-Citys-Premier-League-title-2014-THREAT.htmlthat the £105 million figure is over three seasons not one. So it's not really that the EPL is less stringent, just that you could get away with a bigger spend in one season as long as you balanced the books the next. In fact £105m is indeed less than £135m over the three years, so the EPL is actually tighter in terms of spending over the full period... The 2013/14 title could be taken from them apparently.
The 3 years span also applies to the UEFA rules. And right now its €30 million(the 45 mill was at the start of the ffp, they lowered it over time).
That's even worse then! In that case, back to what I was saying before - FIFA should be sanctioning this from the top down, and the national association rules should be at worst as stringent as the their regional bodies... And these sort of things shouldn't be getting done with retrospective punishments - the year end accounts should be submitted to UEFA and if you've failed for the previous period, you just shouldn't be allowed to enter for the upcoming season. |
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Post by Winston Wolf on Feb 16, 2020 19:30:51 GMT
This is what MLB should have done to the Astros.
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