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Post by wolf359 on Feb 20, 2020 13:41:56 GMT
Well.....She's definitely changed since the last time we saw her 20 years ago.
LOL, I suspect that I am going to get attacked for saying this but I am actually okay with how she has changed over the last 20 years.
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Post by onethreetwo on Feb 20, 2020 13:46:34 GMT
I was never a fan of her on Voyager but I am willing to give her a chance. I thought we would have had more cameos by now, but there hasn't been, so I'm actually kind of relieved to see her character. Now if they can just make her appearance make sense.
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Post by wolf359 on Feb 20, 2020 13:57:35 GMT
I was never a fan of her on Voyager but I am willing to give her a chance. I thought we would have had more cameos by now, but there hasn't been, so I'm actually kind of relieved to see her character. Now if they can just make her appearance make sense.
I myself am actually okay that they aren't bringing back all of the characters from the previous series (that we know will be on this show) back right away and that they are actually really taking their time with it. I actually think that it's smart not to rush things like that.
Plus, This show is about Jean-Luc Picard and so I understand if they don't want to do anything that would take a majority of his time on the show away from both him and audiences and have it be on the returning characters instead. This show is supposed to be about Picard.
That being said....
Please don't get me wrong though, It is most definitely great to see these characters again (Picard, Seven of Nine, Data, Hugh, and even what's left of B-4) and we still have Riker and Troi (who apparently are now parents) to do in this Season and Guinan in Next Season. 
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Post by onethreetwo on Feb 20, 2020 14:02:02 GMT
I was never a fan of her on Voyager but I am willing to give her a chance. I thought we would have had more cameos by now, but there hasn't been, so I'm actually kind of relieved to see her character. Now if they can just make her appearance make sense. I myself am actually okay that they aren't bringing back all of the characters from the previous series (that we know will be on this show) back right away and that they are actually really taking their time with it. I actually think that it's smart not to rush things like that. Plus, This show is about Jean-Luc Picard and so I understand if they don't want to do anything that would take a majority of his time on the show away from both him and audiences and have it be on the returning characters instead. This show is supposed to be about Picard. That being said.... Please don't get me wrong though, It is most definitely great to see these characters again (Picard, Seven of Nine, Data, Hugh, and even what's left of B-4) and we still have Riker and Troi (who apparently are now parents) to do in this Season and Guinan in Next Season. Hopefully down the road, maybe next season, we can see the whole crew together again. Not in action, but maybe at a party or something like that. |
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Post by wolf359 on Feb 20, 2020 14:08:38 GMT
I myself am actually okay that they aren't bringing back all of the characters from the previous series (that we know will be on this show) back right away and that they are actually really taking their time with it. I actually think that it's smart not to rush things like that. Plus, This show is about Jean-Luc Picard and so I understand if they don't want to do anything that would take a majority of his time on the show away from both him and audiences and have it be on the returning characters instead. This show is supposed to be about Picard. That being said.... Please don't get me wrong though, It is most definitely great to see these characters again (Picard, Seven of Nine, Data, Hugh, and even what's left of B-4) and we still have Riker and Troi (who apparently are now parents) to do in this Season and Guinan in Next Season. Hopefully down the road, maybe next season, we can see the whole crew together again. Not in action, but maybe at a party or something like that.
Well, I don't think we would be able to see Data again since he is gone now unless the show actually somehow finds a way to bring him back to life which I myself think would be Freaking Awesome (I wouldn't care how, I would just be happy that Data would be back again).
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 22, 2020 4:01:13 GMT
I liked the Icheb cameo. Also liked the lack of Cortical Processor Node line. Little call back to the fact he removed his to give to 7 of 9 on Voyager.
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Post by wolf359 on Feb 22, 2020 4:40:37 GMT
I liked the Icheb cameo. Also liked the lack of Cortical Processor Node line. Little call back to the fact he removed his to give to 7 of 9 on Voyager.
That Icheb cameo was Brutal and Sad.
I am glad though that Seven later avenged him.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Feb 22, 2020 15:02:42 GMT
I liked the Icheb cameo. Also liked the lack of Cortical Processor Node line. Little call back to the fact he removed his to give to 7 of 9 on Voyager. I don't remember Icheb from Voyager. I looked him up and it barely rang any bells. I guess I am due for a Voyager re-watch!
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 22, 2020 15:19:09 GMT
I liked the Icheb cameo. Also liked the lack of Cortical Processor Node line. Little call back to the fact he removed his to give to 7 of 9 on Voyager. I don't remember Icheb from Voyager. I looked him up and it barely rang any bells. I guess I am due for a Voyager re-watch! I was discussing this with a friend online after the episode. I basically said the same thing I put in my post. And I swear his response was. "Man I couldn't place Icheb, so looked him up. He looks familiar, but not like super strong. I'm due for a Voyager rewatch." So are you my old college buddy or are you spoofing my messenger???
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Feb 22, 2020 15:47:50 GMT
I don't remember Icheb from Voyager. I looked him up and it barely rang any bells. I guess I am due for a Voyager re-watch! I was discussing this with a friend online after the episode. I basically said the same thing I put in my post. And I swear his response was. "Man I couldn't place Icheb, so looked him up. He looks familiar, but not like super strong. I'm due for a Voyager rewatch." So are you my old college buddy or are you spoofing my messenger???  Sometimes a coincidence is just a coincidence!
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Post by stargazer1682 on Feb 22, 2020 19:27:49 GMT
I remember Icheb, I liked his character; so it kind of pissed me off they killed off his character so casually. His implant harvesting was gratuitous. And while yeah, 7 and Icheb were close and she took on a sort of parental role with him, this took it to a level I didn't think made sense. Her wanting revenge, even acting on it, yes, but the whole, "my child" and "closest thing to kin" felt really weird.
I'm ambivalent about 7's involvement with "the Rangers". "Fenris Rangers" sounds more like a Power Rangers team than law enforcement. The thought did occur to me that given Chakotay's background with the Maquis, it might be plausible that 7 isn't the only one fighting the good fight in lawless space.
All in all though, I'm over this darkest-timeline bullshit.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 22, 2020 19:46:36 GMT
Guinan: the most useless character in Star Trek history.
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Post by wolf359 on Feb 22, 2020 20:44:17 GMT
Guinan: the most useless character in Star Trek history.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 22, 2020 21:39:28 GMT
I hope that link doesn't show Guinan nude!
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Post by wolf359 on Feb 22, 2020 22:23:22 GMT
I hope that link doesn't show Guinan nude!
Nope, you said that Guinan was a useless character.
The Video is basically my reaction to that comment.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Feb 22, 2020 22:34:09 GMT
Weakest episode yet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 17:44:34 GMT
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Post by kleinreturns on Mar 23, 2020 12:56:59 GMT
Guinan: the most useless character in Star Trek history.
Guinan is awesome and a far far better conselor than Troi ever was. Not surprising those two hate a Black Character like Guinan and call her useless.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 15:03:00 GMT
Guinan is awesome and a far far better conselor than Troi ever was. Not surprising those two hate a Black Character like Guinan and call her useless. Troi was terrible, too.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 27, 2020 23:29:23 GMT
One of her appealing characteristics was her great figure. It was not on display in Picard.
She used to wear a brightly colored, form fitting body suit. Now she wears dark baggy clothes.
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