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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 21, 2020 22:47:45 GMT
I tried to read her poems from the "Ariel" collection and I just did not get anything from it; no appeal for me whatsoever, it was almost maddening and yet I know it was applauded. I like poetry, but I also like the poetry to have both rhythm and rhyme. There has to be that, I think, or else it's just a big blob.
Has anybody read Plath's poetry and, if so, what did you think?
I did read "The Bell Jar" and I found that biting and penetrating. I was able to follow that. Just not her poetry. She was such a depressed person.
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Post by petrolino on Feb 21, 2020 23:08:31 GMT
Yes, I like Sylvia Plath.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Apr 10, 2020 22:50:15 GMT
sure, i enjoyed her works.
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Post by jillresurrected on Apr 12, 2020 1:39:56 GMT
Some, sure.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 13, 2020 17:08:39 GMT
I’ve not read any of her poetry, and have no real interest in doing so. I did enjoy the Bell Jar though.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Apr 29, 2020 19:26:34 GMT
I’ve not read any of her poetry, and have no real interest in doing so. I did enjoy the Bell Jar though. ideally.
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Post by dirtypillows on Apr 30, 2020 21:23:14 GMT
Yes, I like Sylvia Plath. What do you like about her? Can you be a little bit specific? I remember reading her poem "Daddy" and thinking that I could not make any sense of it. If I were hard-pressed to come up with anything, I would say that her poetry is cold. And even that is merely a vague impression. Sometimes I think Plath's legend is her final suicide. Some people (not saying you) will leech off the flamboyant drama of another person's desperation. Like David Foster Wallace and that interminable "Infinite Jest". Another piece of artistic creation that I could not make sense of. I did not finish that book, but what I did read was only infuriating. I remember going to this writer's conference and this event centered on DFW and that book. People were tripping over their superlatives scraping to be the most impressed by the suicidal man's poetic despair. Oh, but they were full of their pompous selves. Now, I am willing to consider that I may lack a certain depth needed to appreciate these two people, but I would very much like to have at least one of Plath's poems given a lucid interpretation. Thanks.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 30, 2020 22:01:49 GMT
Yes, I like Sylvia Plath. What do you like about her? Can you be a little bit specific? I remember reading her poem "Daddy" and thinking that I could not make any sense of it. If I were hard-pressed to come up with anything, I would say that her poetry is cold. And even that is merely a vague impression. Sometimes I think Plath's legend is her final suicide. Some people (not saying you) will leech off the flamboyant drama of another person's desperation. Like David Foster Wallace and that interminable "Infinite Jest". Another piece of artistic creation that I could not make sense of. I did not finish that book, but what I did read was only infuriating. I remember going to this writer's conference and this event centered on DFW and that book. People were tripping over their superlatives scraping to be the most impressed by the suicidal man's poetic despair. Oh, but they were full of their pompous selves. Now, I am willing to consider that I may lack a certain depth needed to appreciate these two people, but I would very much like to have at least one of Plath's poems given a lucid interpretation. Thanks.
No idea. Try some Ted Hughes. I don't like his poetry.
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Post by dirtypillows on Apr 30, 2020 23:09:43 GMT
What do you like about her? Can you be a little bit specific? I remember reading her poem "Daddy" and thinking that I could not make any sense of it. If I were hard-pressed to come up with anything, I would say that her poetry is cold. And even that is merely a vague impression. Sometimes I think Plath's legend is her final suicide. Some people (not saying you) will leech off the flamboyant drama of another person's desperation. Like David Foster Wallace and that interminable "Infinite Jest". Another piece of artistic creation that I could not make sense of. I did not finish that book, but what I did read was only infuriating. I remember going to this writer's conference and this event centered on DFW and that book. People were tripping over their superlatives scraping to be the most impressed by the suicidal man's poetic despair. Oh, but they were full of their pompous selves. Now, I am willing to consider that I may lack a certain depth needed to appreciate these two people, but I would very much like to have at least one of Plath's poems given a lucid interpretation. Thanks.
No idea. Try some Ted Hughes. I don't like his poetry.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 30, 2020 23:13:41 GMT
No idea. Try some Ted Hughes. I don't like his poetry.
Was he married to Sylvia Plath? Or knew her? I don't know, I take no interest unless it's relevant to what I'm reading. Godspeed.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 1, 2020 2:25:30 GMT
I’ve not read any of her poetry, and have no real interest in doing so. I did enjoy the Bell Jar though. I agree. I liked "The Bell Jar" quite a bit, but her poetry leaves me cold and dry.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 1, 2020 2:32:20 GMT
What do you like about her? Can you be a little bit specific? I remember reading her poem "Daddy" and thinking that I could not make any sense of it. If I were hard-pressed to come up with anything, I would say that her poetry is cold. And even that is merely a vague impression. Sometimes I think Plath's legend is her final suicide. Some people (not saying you) will leech off the flamboyant drama of another person's desperation. Like David Foster Wallace and that interminable "Infinite Jest". Another piece of artistic creation that I could not make sense of. I did not finish that book, but what I did read was only infuriating. I remember going to this writer's conference and this event centered on DFW and that book. People were tripping over their superlatives scraping to be the most impressed by the suicidal man's poetic despair. Oh, but they were full of their pompous selves. Now, I am willing to consider that I may lack a certain depth needed to appreciate these two people, but I would very much like to have at least one of Plath's poems given a lucid interpretation. Thanks.
No idea. Try some Ted Hughes. I don't like his poetry.
You don't know why? I'm very analytical and I like to know why I feel the way I do, so I can't really relate to that, but I can appreciate just enjoying something and keeping it simple. Okay, so I read one of Ted Hughes' poems. Didn't care for it. No rhyme no rhythm no rigor no reason. Blah blah. "Resume", one of my favorite poems, by super bright Dorothy Parker Razors pain you Rivers are damp Acids stain you Drugs cause cramp Guns aren't lawful Nooses give Gas smells awful You might as well live
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Post by petrolino on May 1, 2020 2:40:09 GMT
No idea. Try some Ted Hughes. I don't like his poetry.
You don't know why? I'm very analytical and I like to know why I feel the way I do, so I can't really relate to that, but I can appreciate just enjoying something and keeping it simple. Okay, so I read one of Ted Hughes' poems. Didn't care for it. No rhyme no rhythm no rigor no reason. Blah blah. "Resume", one of my favorite poems, by super bright Dorothy Parker Razors pain you Rivers are damp Acids stain you Drugs cause cramp Guns aren't lawful Nooses give Gas smells awful You might as well live
Will you be soon be asking nutsberryfarm 🏜, jillresurrected, jamesavalon, TownDeseeyu & Carl LaFong?
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Post by dirtypillows on May 1, 2020 2:44:17 GMT
You don't know why? I'm very analytical and I like to know why I feel the way I do, so I can't really relate to that, but I can appreciate just enjoying something and keeping it simple. Okay, so I read one of Ted Hughes' poems. Didn't care for it. No rhyme no rhythm no rigor no reason. Blah blah. "Resume", one of my favorite poems, by super bright Dorothy Parker Razors pain you Rivers are damp Acids stain you Drugs cause cramp Guns aren't lawful Nooses give Gas smells awful You might as well live
Will you be soon be asking nutsberryfarm 🏜, jillresurrected, jamesavalon, TownDeseeyu & Carl LaFong?
You were first in line, but yeah, why not? Though Carl seems to be coming from the same place as me.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 1, 2020 2:46:43 GMT
sure, i enjoyed her works. Thank you for replying. Can you describe what it is about her poetry that appeals to you? I find her stuff too dense to get through even one line, but I would really like to get a handle on SP, as much as that's possible.
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Post by petrolino on May 1, 2020 2:50:49 GMT
Will you be soon be asking nutsberryfarm 🏜, jillresurrected, jamesavalon, TownDeseeyu & Carl LaFong?
You were first in line, but yeah, why not? Though Carl seems to be coming from the same place as me. And naturally the toastedcheese, always controversial? Anywhere(s), f*orget poets you don't care about, where you been, hassie? We missed you, or at least some did, bruh, bro, brah, broski?!? Take a cihill pill and IGNORE poetry appraised by pretentious, portentious, full-of-it academics, now, don't yaknow, bro?!? Talk to toastedcheese for all details, PLEASE.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 1, 2020 5:00:16 GMT
You were first in line, but yeah, why not? Though Carl seems to be coming from the same place as me. And naturally the toastedcheese, always controversial? Anywhere(s), f*orget poets you don't care about, where you been, hassie? We missed you, or at least some did, bruh, bro, brah, broski?!? Take a cihill pill and IGNORE poetry appraised by pretentious, portentious, full-of-it academics, now, don't yaknow, bro?!? Talk to toastedcheese for all details, PLEASE.
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 1, 2020 20:10:25 GMT
We "did" at least one Ted Hughes poem at school. I think "Pike" was one of them. I didn't like his style. Still don't tbh. poetryarchive.org/poem/pike/
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Post by dirtypillows on May 1, 2020 23:27:03 GMT
We "did" at least one Ted Hughes poem at school. I think "Pike" was one of them. I didn't like his style. Still don't tbh. poetryarchive.org/poem/pike/Thanks for the link. Okay, so now I've read two of Ted Hughes poems and this one I didn't care for, either. I don't even really "get" these poems and I'm beginning to wonder if maybe there isn't even much to get. Same with Plath. Maybe I am trying too hard. I mean, like I said earlier, there's no rhyme or rhythm whatsoever. Just a bit of impressionistic free association with a cacophonic streak just to annoy. And it's like what's the point? This kind of poetry is extremely personal and I can't relate at all. And maybe I understand Sylvia Plath better than I had first thought. I find her poetry depressing, bleak, harsh, alienating and unforgiving. My favorite poetic form has always been the limerick. In this case, not only is there rhyme and rhythm, but there is humor and even irony going on in that final twist. 9 times out of 10 I will like the limerick I have just read. They affect me, they make me smile and sometimes laugh, they get me going. They are always high-spirited. I could be wrong, but it seems like the limerick is not held in all that high esteem, and if so, that's probably because they are so accessible. Like if it's not torturous and difficult, then it must not be worthy. Whatever. Long live the limerick!
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