Post by stargazer1682 on Feb 24, 2020 5:30:24 GMT
So right off the bat, we have a scientist commenting on the idea of someone patch-working human skin to make it look like another person's face as being like "a work of science fiction" - in a world where extra-terrestrial immigrants live on Earth, two of whom can fly and shoot laser out of their eyes; and a man can run fast enough to break the sound barrier. Plus meta-humans. Never mind some of the freaky shit that people in Gotham must be accustomed to if this is in anyway a post-Batman world. I mean, Clayface, Man-Bat, Killer Croc, Mr. Freeze. Come on.
Okay, here we go with the cluster fuck of the Crisis fallout. At the end of Crisis the entire fucking universe was rebooted from the beginning of fucking time as one universe. At least for all intents and purposes - they suggested that other universes do still exist, but ostensibly that was just an out to keep the other DC properties canonically separately; and as far as anyone else is concerned, there are absolutely, positively no other universe than this one and there never has been. Ipso facto, the laws of this single universe theory means that the laws that now govern this singular universe are in some ways inherently different from when the multiverse existed; and therefore any science born from the study of those universal laws would also be different. Whatever method of proving the existence of the multiverse pre-Crisis would consequently be flawed or potentially prove the exact opposite now post-Crisis.
Now I suppose the conceit here could be that Beth-2.0 is technically, somehow a pre-Crisis being; and thus her knowledge of physics would be based on the how things could work pre-Crisis. But even still, that knowledge presumably goes out the window if the laws of physics themselves are now different from the precepts she knew. A prime example would be how on The Flash they can't use portals anymore; or at least their function works differently on account of how things have changed. So any speculation Beth might make is going to be based on essentially outdated scientific principals.
Never mind the fact that Supergirl has introduced a whole slew of alternate-refugees; and while I'm behind on those episodes, they haven't hinted at this being a problem for any of them so far.
Uh, Mary, Beth isn't an extraterrestrial; so therefore her cell decay is just....terrestrial...?
If only Kate knew someone, or perhaps a team of people, with experience and insight into the multiverse and doubles; maybe someone with a lab who could help them figure this out in a flash or something....
Oh, okay, so Lucas is going to acknowledge knowing the Flash, but definitely not going to ask for his help. It's not like he could sneak Beth out of the city in a blur, much less lend any help on the scientific or technological side of things....oh, wait....
Damn, the Crows really suck at their job.
"Beth needs you, we're running out of time!"
"Right! What do you need me to do, instead of running after her psychotic doppelganger?"
"I don't know, just sort of touch her arm comfortingly? We really don't have a clue what will help right now."
"But you're saying keeping Alice here will definitely not help, right? That's why you stopped me from going after her? Like they're proximity will make it worse?"
"No."
"So why did you stop me from going after her?"
"Because....fuck you, that's why."
Wait, didn't they Jacob getting pretty seriously stabbed in the last scene? Like, there was major blood spatter across the screen as they cut away. That was Jacob getting stabbed and not doing the stabbing, right? The scene was so dark, like physically dark, it was hard to tell who was who in that scene.
How is he still alive, much less conscious and throwing shade at his attacker after not only being stabbed, but having his dunked under water then bashed into a mirror?
Okay, the Crows are creeps and they suck at their jobs; that's a given. And their standing as private security essentially act as unchecked police/militia in Gotham is pretty fucking dubious, but have we seen any indication of the level of corruption whats-his-name is talking about?
Mary, I'm pretty sure you're not going to find anything on the effects of cosmic crises on doppelgangers or what to do when the multiverse reboots itself into a single, streamlined universe in a book. I mean, what book are you even looking in? Unless it's the script for this episode, it's probably not going to help.
Let me guess, because Mary drank some antidote for some random poison, that's somehow going to make her the cure all for what ails anyone else? Unless that rose juice or whatever came from the fucking Lazarus Pit, I'm pretty sure that's not going to help.
Plus, if Alice got her hands on this magic potion, why not go straight to the source instead of whatever other method she has in mind for Mary? I assume she needs to drink her blood or eat her toenails or some stupid shit to benefit from the byproduct of Mary drinking this antidote, but surely whatever trace remnants are still her system aren't going to be as potent as the concoction itself. They're not seriously going to suggest that Alice would go to the trouble procure only exactly enough antidote for a single person she planned to poison and not any extra to keep in case she wanted to pull the same stunt again or needed it on account of accidental exposure; or maybe just for the simple sake that it apparently has super-healing properties that can cure God only knows what?
Of course the one plastic surgeon who hears Jacob out is Mouse's father... in a mask.... and hasn't aged in 15 years.....and passes himself off as someone with a much less raspier voice than he naturally has.....🙄
What are the odds Alice and Mary are even the same blood type? There's gotta be, what, at least a 50/50 chance that injecting herself with Mary's blood would do more harm than good, even if somehow a drug she'd taken weeks ago was still inexplicably in her blood.
Okay, that Mary was able to find a massive landline phone in 2020 to hit Alice over the head may be the least believable thing in the entire Arrowverse...
Oh, and it's a working landline phone. In the secret underground hospital Mary's been running. Right.
I kind of feel like I'll be disappointed if they kill Beth and keep Alice. If they kill Alice now, it won't change what she's done to the city or the people in Kate's life; and while Beth being a good person doesn't lend itself to conflict, she's still have to live under the shadow of what some alternate version of herself was capable. Meanwhile, if they kill Beth and keep Alice, this whole arc is nothing but a tease for the best and truthfully only real option to redeem Kate's sister at this point; and Alice can't be the big bad of the series indefinitely. So if she has to leave eventually, do it now before they're just beating a dead horse.
(Random aside) - Holy shit, I was just looking up the actress that plays Beth/Alice, Rachel Skarsten; and how did I not know she played Dinah on Birds of Prey before now?
God that show was awful and I don't remember her being all that good in it, but then it's been a while I don't remember much about the show, other than how bad it was.
There is something about her performance on Batwoman that I like and not just because she's hot.
Oh, good, fucking good. For a second I thought they were actually going to guilt trip Kate into save Alice. This is actually halfway decent. The device of saving Beth is dumb and contrived, but choosing Beth and going to Alice and say good-bye and be with her as she fades is actually pretty good.
Oh, fuck you. Fuck this show.
Okay, here we go with the cluster fuck of the Crisis fallout. At the end of Crisis the entire fucking universe was rebooted from the beginning of fucking time as one universe. At least for all intents and purposes - they suggested that other universes do still exist, but ostensibly that was just an out to keep the other DC properties canonically separately; and as far as anyone else is concerned, there are absolutely, positively no other universe than this one and there never has been. Ipso facto, the laws of this single universe theory means that the laws that now govern this singular universe are in some ways inherently different from when the multiverse existed; and therefore any science born from the study of those universal laws would also be different. Whatever method of proving the existence of the multiverse pre-Crisis would consequently be flawed or potentially prove the exact opposite now post-Crisis.
Now I suppose the conceit here could be that Beth-2.0 is technically, somehow a pre-Crisis being; and thus her knowledge of physics would be based on the how things could work pre-Crisis. But even still, that knowledge presumably goes out the window if the laws of physics themselves are now different from the precepts she knew. A prime example would be how on The Flash they can't use portals anymore; or at least their function works differently on account of how things have changed. So any speculation Beth might make is going to be based on essentially outdated scientific principals.
Never mind the fact that Supergirl has introduced a whole slew of alternate-refugees; and while I'm behind on those episodes, they haven't hinted at this being a problem for any of them so far.
Uh, Mary, Beth isn't an extraterrestrial; so therefore her cell decay is just....terrestrial...?
If only Kate knew someone, or perhaps a team of people, with experience and insight into the multiverse and doubles; maybe someone with a lab who could help them figure this out in a flash or something....
Oh, okay, so Lucas is going to acknowledge knowing the Flash, but definitely not going to ask for his help. It's not like he could sneak Beth out of the city in a blur, much less lend any help on the scientific or technological side of things....oh, wait....
Damn, the Crows really suck at their job.
"Beth needs you, we're running out of time!"
"Right! What do you need me to do, instead of running after her psychotic doppelganger?"
"I don't know, just sort of touch her arm comfortingly? We really don't have a clue what will help right now."
"But you're saying keeping Alice here will definitely not help, right? That's why you stopped me from going after her? Like they're proximity will make it worse?"
"No."
"So why did you stop me from going after her?"
"Because....fuck you, that's why."
Wait, didn't they Jacob getting pretty seriously stabbed in the last scene? Like, there was major blood spatter across the screen as they cut away. That was Jacob getting stabbed and not doing the stabbing, right? The scene was so dark, like physically dark, it was hard to tell who was who in that scene.
How is he still alive, much less conscious and throwing shade at his attacker after not only being stabbed, but having his dunked under water then bashed into a mirror?
Okay, the Crows are creeps and they suck at their jobs; that's a given. And their standing as private security essentially act as unchecked police/militia in Gotham is pretty fucking dubious, but have we seen any indication of the level of corruption whats-his-name is talking about?
Mary, I'm pretty sure you're not going to find anything on the effects of cosmic crises on doppelgangers or what to do when the multiverse reboots itself into a single, streamlined universe in a book. I mean, what book are you even looking in? Unless it's the script for this episode, it's probably not going to help.
Let me guess, because Mary drank some antidote for some random poison, that's somehow going to make her the cure all for what ails anyone else? Unless that rose juice or whatever came from the fucking Lazarus Pit, I'm pretty sure that's not going to help.
Plus, if Alice got her hands on this magic potion, why not go straight to the source instead of whatever other method she has in mind for Mary? I assume she needs to drink her blood or eat her toenails or some stupid shit to benefit from the byproduct of Mary drinking this antidote, but surely whatever trace remnants are still her system aren't going to be as potent as the concoction itself. They're not seriously going to suggest that Alice would go to the trouble procure only exactly enough antidote for a single person she planned to poison and not any extra to keep in case she wanted to pull the same stunt again or needed it on account of accidental exposure; or maybe just for the simple sake that it apparently has super-healing properties that can cure God only knows what?
Of course the one plastic surgeon who hears Jacob out is Mouse's father... in a mask.... and hasn't aged in 15 years.....and passes himself off as someone with a much less raspier voice than he naturally has.....🙄
What are the odds Alice and Mary are even the same blood type? There's gotta be, what, at least a 50/50 chance that injecting herself with Mary's blood would do more harm than good, even if somehow a drug she'd taken weeks ago was still inexplicably in her blood.
Okay, that Mary was able to find a massive landline phone in 2020 to hit Alice over the head may be the least believable thing in the entire Arrowverse...
Oh, and it's a working landline phone. In the secret underground hospital Mary's been running. Right.
I kind of feel like I'll be disappointed if they kill Beth and keep Alice. If they kill Alice now, it won't change what she's done to the city or the people in Kate's life; and while Beth being a good person doesn't lend itself to conflict, she's still have to live under the shadow of what some alternate version of herself was capable. Meanwhile, if they kill Beth and keep Alice, this whole arc is nothing but a tease for the best and truthfully only real option to redeem Kate's sister at this point; and Alice can't be the big bad of the series indefinitely. So if she has to leave eventually, do it now before they're just beating a dead horse.
(Random aside) - Holy shit, I was just looking up the actress that plays Beth/Alice, Rachel Skarsten; and how did I not know she played Dinah on Birds of Prey before now?
God that show was awful and I don't remember her being all that good in it, but then it's been a while I don't remember much about the show, other than how bad it was.
There is something about her performance on Batwoman that I like and not just because she's hot.
Oh, good, fucking good. For a second I thought they were actually going to guilt trip Kate into save Alice. This is actually halfway decent. The device of saving Beth is dumb and contrived, but choosing Beth and going to Alice and say good-bye and be with her as she fades is actually pretty good.
Oh, fuck you. Fuck this show.