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Post by moviemouth on Feb 27, 2020 3:47:52 GMT
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 27, 2020 3:53:25 GMT
That just gave me a flash back to elementary school
but in my case there should be some
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 27, 2020 3:56:22 GMT
How would you rate Scarface? I know he didn't direct it, but he did write the script.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 27, 2020 3:59:42 GMT
How would you rate Scarface? I know he didn't direct it, but he did write the script.
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Post by Farside on Feb 27, 2020 4:22:16 GMT
Scarface is Oliver Stoner's masterpiece!
JFK was pretty good(but most likely bullshit) too he should do another movie on 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Born On The 4th of July will truly make you hate the republican party. A must see for alt righters.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 27, 2020 4:26:25 GMT
Scarface is Oliver Stoner's masterpiece! JFK was pretty good(but most likely bullshit) too he should do another movie on 9/11 conspiracy theories. Born On The 4th of July will truly make you hate the republican party. A must see for alt righters. You have to take the "facts" in his movies with a grain of salt.
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Post by movielover on Feb 27, 2020 4:27:14 GMT
9/10
1. Wall Street
2. Platoon
8/10
3. Talk Radio
4. Snowden
7/10
5. W.
6. Savages
7. Heaven & Earth
8. Nixon
9. The Doors
10. Any Given Sunday
11. JFK
12. Salvador
13. World Trade Center
6.5/10
14. U Turn
6/10
15. Born on the Fourth of July
16. The Hand
3/10
17. Natural Born Killers
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Post by marth on Feb 27, 2020 4:39:19 GMT
9/101. Wall Street 2. Platoon I was going to say that Wall Street it's an A to me, and of course agree with you about Platoon. JFK it´s a great movie IMO, specially the acting is really good. 
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 27, 2020 4:44:19 GMT
Out of all his movies which ones does he have a cameo?
I know he does in Platoon and Doors.
Any others?
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Post by movielover on Feb 27, 2020 4:53:08 GMT
Out of all his movies which ones does he have a cameo? I know he does in Platoon and Doors. Any others? He's in Wall Street. You can see him briefly in a montage shot of stock traders. He's also a TV announcer in Any Given Sunday. He's in several others, but I don't remember seeing him in those.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 27, 2020 4:57:17 GMT
Scarface is Oliver Stoner's masterpiece! JFK was pretty good(but most likely bullshit) too he should do another movie on 9/11 conspiracy theories. Born On The 4th of July will truly make you hate the republican party. A must see for alt righters. You have to take the "facts" in his movies with a grain of salt. Like the eyeball on the field in Sunday? Such bullshit. You are more likely to see that on a boxing/MMA floor.
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Post by movielover on Feb 27, 2020 5:02:21 GMT
9/101. Wall Street 2. Platoon I was going to say that Wall Street it's an A to me, and of course agree with you about Platoon. JFK it´s a great movie IMO, specially the acting is really good. Have you seen Talk Radio? It's a hidden gem.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 27, 2020 5:03:04 GMT
You have to take the "facts" in his movies with a grain of salt. Such bullshit. You are more likely to see that on a boxing/MMA floor. That isn't a fact in the way I am talking about. That is an exaggeration of an injury and takes place within an entirely fictional story with fictional football teams.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 27, 2020 5:09:48 GMT
I was going to say that Wall Street it's an A to me, and of course agree with you about Platoon. JFK it´s a great movie IMO, specially the acting is really good. Have you seen Talk Radio? It's a hidden gem. Wall Street has a good script, but I am just not interested in Wall Street mumbo jumbo. I also find Sheen's relationship with Daryl Hannah extremely boring. Daryl Hannah's performance is distractingly bad imo. Money Never Sleeps has a worse script, but it tells it's story in a more entertaining and interesting way imo.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 27, 2020 5:15:22 GMT
Like the eyeball on the field in Sunday? Such bullshit. You are more likely to see that on a boxing/MMA floor. That isn't a fact in the way I am talking about. That is an exaggeration of an injury and takes place within an entirely fictional story with fictional football teams. This is a guy who directs movies either based off of true events or movies that reflect real life. Though Sunday is the later it should still instill a sense of realism as much as it can. This is not a SciFi/Horror/Supernatural movie director we are discussing. Frankly that is the only thing I remember about that movie because of how disturbing and unreal I found it to be.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 27, 2020 5:24:24 GMT
That isn't a fact in the way I am talking about. That is an exaggeration of an injury and takes place within an entirely fictional story with fictional football teams. This is a guy who directs movies either based off of true events or movies that reflect real life. Though Sunday is the later it should still instill a sense of realism as much as it can. This is not a SciFi/Horror/Supernatural movie director we are discussing. Frankly that is the only thing I remember about that movie because of how disturbing and unreal I found it to be. I don't even think movies based on true stories need to be overly realistic. These are not documentaries. The OTT stuff like the eyeball is why I am such a big fan of Oliver Stone. This is part of his style. His movies slowly started to get more over the top shortly after JFK. Even Platoon has unrealistic stuff in it, such as Elias's OTT death scene.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 27, 2020 5:31:14 GMT
JFK = A+
Wall Street = B
W. = C+
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps = C
Snowden = D
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Feb 27, 2020 5:35:56 GMT
How would you rate Scarface? I know he didn't direct it, but he did write the script.I had no idea about that. And Scarface is my favourite movie of 1983.
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Post by movielover on Feb 27, 2020 5:36:22 GMT
Have you seen Talk Radio? It's a hidden gem. Wall Street has a good script, but I am just not interested in Wall Street mumbo jumbo. I also find Sheen's relationship with Daryl Hannah extremely boring. Daryl Hannah's performance is distractingly bad imo. Money Never Sleeps has a worse script, but it tells it's story in a more entertaining and interesting way imo. Yeah, I love the script, especially how the "lifestyle" of the rich seduces Bud Fox. There's just a lot of individual scenes in the movie that I love, which makes me love the movie. The casting of Daryl Hannah is an interesting one. Her performance is terrible (I think she accepted the part before reading the script. She obviously can't play a snobby Wall Street elite worth a damn). But what's crazy is that I'm glad Stone cast her, and here's why. So often (especially in the 80s) I'd see movies where the girl character is supposed to be so good looking, with the male characters all crazy about them, but the director had cast someone who wasn't good looking (but could act) This actually distracts me more than bad acting. At least Daryl Hannah is good looking. So when Bud Fox is seduced by the lifestyle of the rich, which includes a beauty like Daryl Hannah as part of the prize, I can see how Bud would start breaking the law, it's more believable. But if a good actress, who wasn't that good looking, had been cast, then the seduction is harder for me to believe.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 27, 2020 5:37:16 GMT
This is a guy who directs movies either based off of true events or movies that reflect real life. Though Sunday is the later it should still instill a sense of realism as much as it can. This is not a SciFi/Horror/Supernatural movie director we are discussing. Frankly that is the only thing I remember about that movie because of how disturbing and unreal I found it to be. I don't even think movies based on true stories need to be overly realistic. These are not documentaries. The OTT stuff like the eyeball is why I am such a big fan of Oliver Stone. This is part of his style. His movies slowly started to get more over the top shortly after JFK. Even Platoon has unrealistic stuff in it, such as Elias's OTT death scene. I've wondered about that because he gets shot way too many times to keep on running like that. Right? I do like it when he gets all artsy with the visuals such as in NBKillers and Doors. I found his commentary with Doors very helpful.
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