Post by stargazer1682 on Feb 27, 2020 6:06:36 GMT
I kind of forgot Mixy was already on Supergirl. I was ambivalent with the actor choice when he showed up at the end of the last episode, but given the alternative, I'm okay with it.
All this hand-wringing about altering history, but they're currently living in a radically altered timeline right now as a result of Crisis. There are facts about their own lives and histories that they still completely surprised to learn; so would this one thing really be that big of a deal? I mean, it probably will be, because the writers are fucking morons, but it shouldn't be; especially if, presumably, Mixy offers some type of escape clause should things not pan out to Kara's liking, which she should definitely insist upon.
It goes to show how little I actually care or pay attention, even as I review these shows - did Lena fess up to Kara that she remembered Pre-Crisis? Because if not, why is Kara even worried about it, if she's still operating under the assumption that everything is good between them Post-Crisis?
So when they go into Kara's past is she interacting with Pre-Crisis Lena or Post-Crisis Lena? Because technically the only past that still exists is the Post-Crisis timeline, which should mean it'd be the Post-Crisis Lena, but since Lex made a deal for the Pre-Crisis version of Lena to exist once Crisis was over, where does the one end and the other begin? A Post-Crisis Lena's experiences and perspective on the world should, arguably, be different from Pre-Crisis; for starters given the fact that in the Post-Crisis world, Lex was never brought down or considered a criminal or a murderer and Lena never had to rebrand the family company. She obviously still has mommy-issues, and some other things in common, like ostensibly her relationship with Andrea and the way that played out, but there would be other differences.
"So much exposition."
Okay, I like this version of Mixy. I know the actor probably didn't write that line and has nothing to do with it other than the delivery, but still, it was a good line taking the piss out of how much exposition there is in any of these shows.
I mean, if they've found the sweat spot where Kara can reveal herself to Lena without Lena going over the dark side, even if there are ramifications like Lena, Mon-El or Sam dying; shouldn't that be kind of a minor point to fine tune? If you're going to fuck with history, you might as well give it the full shaft and do it right. That's what Oliver did.
Well obviously this happy-go lucky timeline is going to get fucked up somehow.
Why would their public relationship change so radically in this altered timeline? The only thing that's different is that Lena knows her secret; either way she'd have worked alongside Kara just the same as she did before, maybe siding with Kara a little more often, but this is over the top. Any ideological differences in opinion that they might have had in the past wouldn't have necessarily evaporated just because Lena knew Kara was Supergirl; and why would they go out of their way to make a public brand about this partnership.
Also, isn't that exactly what the Post-Crisis DEO & Luthor-Corp dynamic is supposed to be; Lena and Supergirl (and Lex) working together? How is this not the reality they live in then?
Wait, so Lockwood still ended up working with the same people as he did in the original timeline, but why? That was all orchestrated by Lex. So what, Lex still brings on Lockwood, only this time he does to kidnap his sister? For what purpose? He's not even in jail in the Post-Crisis timeline; and is there even a Reign, much less a Red-Daughter in this other other timeline?
I'll admit, the episode wasn't terrible up to this point, but there's some logical inconsistencies with how they're trying to make the best possible outcome a bad one; it's just too forced.
Wait, what? Why is Winn suspicious of Lex in this alternate-alternate reality? When Winn came back from the future he had no idea that Lex was supposed to be a bad guy, meaning he had all the Post-Crisis memories until J'Onn mind whammied him. Or in this Lena-Kara team-up timeline did Kara and Lena uncover Lex's crimes and bring him down after all? This has become a bigger clusterfuck than Crisis....
Also, Winn's appearance in this episode makes sense being the 100th (I think), but it seems a little undermined by the fact that he was just in the last two episodes and they made a big deal about him leaving in the last one.
Seriously, it's not the person knowing someone's secret identity that makes them the target; it's telling the fucking world that they know such a powerful secret. No one knows Winn knows Kara's identity, so how often was he targeted specifically for his association with Supergirl? Sure, you might say, "well he's Winn, the average person doesn't know who the fuck he is," but that's part of the point. He's walking around with one of the biggest secrets and they just don't fucking draw attention to it and no one asks, "hey, do you know Supergirl or what secret identity is?" If they put a picture of Winn of the front page of the Daily Planet that he's Supergirl's best friend and keeper of her secrets, that alone would make him a very public figure with ties to Supergirl that could be exploited.
Surely the world was aware of at least some of the things Lena helped Supergirl with in the original timeline, did anyone assume she knew her secret identity? For that matter, why do they assume she has one?
So in this happy, shinny timeline they said that Lena made Supergirl's new suit - so she happened to make a new suit that was identical to the one Brainy made for her in another timeline??
I honestly had already seen spoiler pictures of Kara revealing her secret identity at a press release. I kind of wondered if they would be so bold as to actually go that route for real, but kind of figured they'd find a way to walk that back or not play it for keeps; and the second I knew what this episode was going to be about it was clear that this was how they were going to incorporate it without actually owning the outcome moving forward.
You gotta love the fact that they're doing this big, "It's a Wonderful Life" style retrospective 100th episode celebration, bringing back past actors, but because they clearly couldn't get Calista Flockhart for the episode, for whatever reason, they just throw up her image and declare her dead.
Not only that, but with the likes of Supergirl and Superman (not to mention the Flash, Green Arrow, et al, who now reside on this Earth), how does Agent Liberty manage to go after all of Kara's friends and family and there are no survivors? Fuck you.
Why would Mixy suddenly get pulled into this new-new-new-new timeline? Especially since it was just a preview and he wasn't pulled into any of the others?
Seriously? Kara doesn't befriend Lena, so she goes full on Dark Warrior Duck?
And here again, this is all Pre-Crisis shit; there is no L-Corp Post-Crisis and Lena didn't take over the company, she runs it alongside Lex.
And would Nia still become Dreamer in this reality? Hell, would Brainiac even be here? There's a lot of shit that wouldn't have happened in the aftermath of Lena going to war with Lex. How does Lena control Reign and what about the other World Killers?
You know, it wasn't until Jimmy's sister pulled out the Guardian shield that I a) remembered that Jimmy passed the mantle on to her (I think) and b) realized that, apart from footage from past episodes he hasn't made any kind of cameo; which you'd think if they were going to bring some of these others back, they'd have brought him back too. Especially since he was there when it all started.
"Where were you when my brother blew my helicopter out of the sky?"
Kind of a legitimate question. I mean, yeah, this is supposed to be the timeline where Kara and Lena never became friends, but just because they're not friends doesn't mean Kara wouldn't save her if she were able.
So if Lena is using 5th dimension energy to power her drones, preventing Mixy from using his powers; and she's only doing this in National City, why don't Kara pick-up Mixy and fly them straight out of town and as far as way as necessary so that his powers work again? Surely there's limits to where Lena's tap on the 5th dimension would affect his powers, right; even if they have to go halfway around the planet?
Kara should be dead, right? After that many direct blasts with Kryptonite energy?
All this hand-wringing about altering history, but they're currently living in a radically altered timeline right now as a result of Crisis. There are facts about their own lives and histories that they still completely surprised to learn; so would this one thing really be that big of a deal? I mean, it probably will be, because the writers are fucking morons, but it shouldn't be; especially if, presumably, Mixy offers some type of escape clause should things not pan out to Kara's liking, which she should definitely insist upon.
It goes to show how little I actually care or pay attention, even as I review these shows - did Lena fess up to Kara that she remembered Pre-Crisis? Because if not, why is Kara even worried about it, if she's still operating under the assumption that everything is good between them Post-Crisis?
So when they go into Kara's past is she interacting with Pre-Crisis Lena or Post-Crisis Lena? Because technically the only past that still exists is the Post-Crisis timeline, which should mean it'd be the Post-Crisis Lena, but since Lex made a deal for the Pre-Crisis version of Lena to exist once Crisis was over, where does the one end and the other begin? A Post-Crisis Lena's experiences and perspective on the world should, arguably, be different from Pre-Crisis; for starters given the fact that in the Post-Crisis world, Lex was never brought down or considered a criminal or a murderer and Lena never had to rebrand the family company. She obviously still has mommy-issues, and some other things in common, like ostensibly her relationship with Andrea and the way that played out, but there would be other differences.
"So much exposition."
Okay, I like this version of Mixy. I know the actor probably didn't write that line and has nothing to do with it other than the delivery, but still, it was a good line taking the piss out of how much exposition there is in any of these shows.
I mean, if they've found the sweat spot where Kara can reveal herself to Lena without Lena going over the dark side, even if there are ramifications like Lena, Mon-El or Sam dying; shouldn't that be kind of a minor point to fine tune? If you're going to fuck with history, you might as well give it the full shaft and do it right. That's what Oliver did.
Well obviously this happy-go lucky timeline is going to get fucked up somehow.
Why would their public relationship change so radically in this altered timeline? The only thing that's different is that Lena knows her secret; either way she'd have worked alongside Kara just the same as she did before, maybe siding with Kara a little more often, but this is over the top. Any ideological differences in opinion that they might have had in the past wouldn't have necessarily evaporated just because Lena knew Kara was Supergirl; and why would they go out of their way to make a public brand about this partnership.
Also, isn't that exactly what the Post-Crisis DEO & Luthor-Corp dynamic is supposed to be; Lena and Supergirl (and Lex) working together? How is this not the reality they live in then?
Wait, so Lockwood still ended up working with the same people as he did in the original timeline, but why? That was all orchestrated by Lex. So what, Lex still brings on Lockwood, only this time he does to kidnap his sister? For what purpose? He's not even in jail in the Post-Crisis timeline; and is there even a Reign, much less a Red-Daughter in this other other timeline?
I'll admit, the episode wasn't terrible up to this point, but there's some logical inconsistencies with how they're trying to make the best possible outcome a bad one; it's just too forced.
Wait, what? Why is Winn suspicious of Lex in this alternate-alternate reality? When Winn came back from the future he had no idea that Lex was supposed to be a bad guy, meaning he had all the Post-Crisis memories until J'Onn mind whammied him. Or in this Lena-Kara team-up timeline did Kara and Lena uncover Lex's crimes and bring him down after all? This has become a bigger clusterfuck than Crisis....
Also, Winn's appearance in this episode makes sense being the 100th (I think), but it seems a little undermined by the fact that he was just in the last two episodes and they made a big deal about him leaving in the last one.
Seriously, it's not the person knowing someone's secret identity that makes them the target; it's telling the fucking world that they know such a powerful secret. No one knows Winn knows Kara's identity, so how often was he targeted specifically for his association with Supergirl? Sure, you might say, "well he's Winn, the average person doesn't know who the fuck he is," but that's part of the point. He's walking around with one of the biggest secrets and they just don't fucking draw attention to it and no one asks, "hey, do you know Supergirl or what secret identity is?" If they put a picture of Winn of the front page of the Daily Planet that he's Supergirl's best friend and keeper of her secrets, that alone would make him a very public figure with ties to Supergirl that could be exploited.
Surely the world was aware of at least some of the things Lena helped Supergirl with in the original timeline, did anyone assume she knew her secret identity? For that matter, why do they assume she has one?
So in this happy, shinny timeline they said that Lena made Supergirl's new suit - so she happened to make a new suit that was identical to the one Brainy made for her in another timeline??
I honestly had already seen spoiler pictures of Kara revealing her secret identity at a press release. I kind of wondered if they would be so bold as to actually go that route for real, but kind of figured they'd find a way to walk that back or not play it for keeps; and the second I knew what this episode was going to be about it was clear that this was how they were going to incorporate it without actually owning the outcome moving forward.
You gotta love the fact that they're doing this big, "It's a Wonderful Life" style retrospective 100th episode celebration, bringing back past actors, but because they clearly couldn't get Calista Flockhart for the episode, for whatever reason, they just throw up her image and declare her dead.
Not only that, but with the likes of Supergirl and Superman (not to mention the Flash, Green Arrow, et al, who now reside on this Earth), how does Agent Liberty manage to go after all of Kara's friends and family and there are no survivors? Fuck you.
Why would Mixy suddenly get pulled into this new-new-new-new timeline? Especially since it was just a preview and he wasn't pulled into any of the others?
Seriously? Kara doesn't befriend Lena, so she goes full on Dark Warrior Duck?
And here again, this is all Pre-Crisis shit; there is no L-Corp Post-Crisis and Lena didn't take over the company, she runs it alongside Lex.
And would Nia still become Dreamer in this reality? Hell, would Brainiac even be here? There's a lot of shit that wouldn't have happened in the aftermath of Lena going to war with Lex. How does Lena control Reign and what about the other World Killers?
You know, it wasn't until Jimmy's sister pulled out the Guardian shield that I a) remembered that Jimmy passed the mantle on to her (I think) and b) realized that, apart from footage from past episodes he hasn't made any kind of cameo; which you'd think if they were going to bring some of these others back, they'd have brought him back too. Especially since he was there when it all started.
"Where were you when my brother blew my helicopter out of the sky?"
Kind of a legitimate question. I mean, yeah, this is supposed to be the timeline where Kara and Lena never became friends, but just because they're not friends doesn't mean Kara wouldn't save her if she were able.
So if Lena is using 5th dimension energy to power her drones, preventing Mixy from using his powers; and she's only doing this in National City, why don't Kara pick-up Mixy and fly them straight out of town and as far as way as necessary so that his powers work again? Surely there's limits to where Lena's tap on the 5th dimension would affect his powers, right; even if they have to go halfway around the planet?
Kara should be dead, right? After that many direct blasts with Kryptonite energy?
