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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 26, 2017 15:28:27 GMT
The DCEU's movies cost more to make and used well-known characters they didn't to work hard on building up to the audience, in relation to that their performance was bad. The MCU cost less and use lesser known characters, which makes their continuing success a testament to their hard work. So yeah, DCEU is hurting. I've asked you before and I'll ask you again: apart from being a total loser with nothing else to live for, how do you "bask" in Marvel's "success"? I for one own Disney stock and they send me a check four times a year, a small percentage of which comes from you and weirdraptor and the rest of your ilk. You guys are always crowing about how much money Disney makes as if it validates -- what? Where's your cut of the action? Mine is... in the mail. Literally. You may care only about the money, we just usually care about the pleasure we get from watching good CBMs.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 26, 2017 15:30:19 GMT
This is AHfan? He said AH is Alfred Hitchcock. I called him Anne Hathaway fan & he corrected me over a year ago on IMDB I'm a fan of Alfred Hitchcock movies (I've seen 26 of them). And I also like this actress: Amy Hathaway. But I don't know who this Anne Hathaway Fan that these dumb MCU fans are referring to.
Back on IMDb, I did give some clues to what AH stood for, but I suspect that MCU fans were too dumb to figure out the clues. At first, I thought the clues might have been too hard, but some people were able to figure out the clues correctly. So it wasn't that the clues were too hard. It's just that MCU fans are too dumb.
I will wait to see what's up with GotG2. The review I saw said it doesn't live up to the first which means expectations. That's why GotG2 won't reach $1 billion at the box office. The consensus is that GotG2 isn't as good as GotG1, which couldn't even reach $800 million at the box office. So GotG2 is most certainly not going to reach $1 billion at the box office. And the dumb MCU fan who claimed that Civil War was a Captain America movie and not an Avengers movie is an idiot. MCU can call it a Captain America movie, but the fact is it was Avengers 2.5. There's no real consensus yet since the movie hasn't come out. Even then the reviews are fine. You still don't understand how a Shared Universe works, and that's just sad. You can have more than just the title character in the movie and not have it automatically be a team movie. The story revolved around Steve and Bucky, with Tony as the final antagonist. That makes it a Cap movie.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 26, 2017 15:36:49 GMT
It doesn't matter how much money Wonder Woman or Justice League or any of the other make. The MCU has cemented its place in history. Everything that comes afterwards is simply that - what came afterwards. Actually, no. Jurassic Park used to be the #1 all-time highest-grossing movie, but it was #1 for only 4 and 1/2 years and then Titanic became #1 and now Avatar is #1. Titanic and Avatar weren't just movies that simply came afterward. Titanic and Avatar are movies that knocked Jurrassic Park off the perch and became the current standard.
That's what's going to happen with MCU and the DCEU. Like Jurassic Park, the MCU had their run at the top (while the DCEU was still being planned), but now that the DCEU is moving forward, it's going to pass MCU and knock MCU off the perch the same way that Titanic and Avatar knocked Jurassic Park off the perch and the DCEU will become the new standard the same way that Titanic and then Avatar have become the current standard. LOL! I forgot it does a Nostradamus impression as well - the Philistine Prophecies.
Good then, if the DCEU is the one that was foretold to rise, why is it here selling the good word to non-believers? Is it a prophet? Shouldn't it be comfortable in its absolute certainty of DCEU supremacy. Is its faith shaken, or is it like a Jehovah's Witness compelled to go from thread to thread preaching the good word from the WB Board Room? Obliged to go out into encampments of its enemies with only the armor of overpowered superhero truth.
"Tell me friend, have you heard the good news? The DCEU is coming and you'd better prepare. Is your heart ready for Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and his brooding majesty, Superman? If you don't except them now, my corporate masters cannot make a place at the table for you and surely you will be a fan of fading franchise."
Does it expect to make converts here? Or is it doing what it always does, antagonizing and vexing. The only game it knows how to play - AH_Fan's Game.SaveSave
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 26, 2017 15:51:07 GMT
Agreed. GotG1 was garbage.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 26, 2017 15:53:40 GMT
Agreed. GotG1 was garbage. You must seriously hate Dr Who, Star Wars, Star Trek, Farscape, etc. Which isn't surprising.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 26, 2017 15:57:16 GMT
Agreed. GotG1 was garbage. Let's sing a DCEU hymnal together. "Oh WB, I wanna be in that theater when those stiff, ultra-posed money shots come zooming in!" SaveSave
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 26, 2017 16:06:10 GMT
Oh, Heaven, I shouldn't write this here, but nonetheless... I'm actually hoping that the movie doesn't do all that well. (I know that sounds cruel--I apologize.) Not exactly because I don't like it (I haven't seen it, of course), even though it doesn't seem to be up my alley, but rather because the first inspired the Disney corporation to replace one of the greatest examples of themed space ever made, their Tower of Terror ride, with a Guardians of the Galaxy ride in California. Now, I have no real problem with a Guardians ride at Disneyland, but, as someone who's interested, at an intellectual level, in the connection between themed space and the individual, it's a major error on Disney's part. I'm hoping, however unlikely it seems, that, if the movie doesn't do as well as hoped, it will cause the Disney Company to reconsider undertaking such sweeping and slashing actions in the future. I know my reason seems trivial, even shallow, but, when one thinks of how even someone like Umberto Eco (favorably) analyzed the concept of themed space at a place like Disneyland (his book was entitled Travels in Hyperreality), one sees that there is a kind of value in it that is quite close to the value in film, in fact.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 26, 2017 16:13:48 GMT
Agreed. GotG1 was garbage. You must seriously hate Dr Who, Star Wars, Star Trek, Farscape, etc. LOL!!! Only a dumb MCU fan like you would claim that GotG1 was as good as Star Wars or Star Trek. GotG1 is nothing like Star Wars or Star Trek. GotG1 is more like Howard the Duck.
Which isn't surprising, since GotG1 even had a scene with Howard the Duck in it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 16:14:04 GMT
I have it on good authority that GotGv2 is a steaming pile of GAH-BAGE, but the mentally challenged Marvel Zombies will love it. The usual clapping seal crew will have a great time.
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Post by zoilus on Apr 26, 2017 16:19:09 GMT
No it isn't. That inaccurate analogy is highly disrespectful to WW2 veterans and victims of the Holocaust. The DCEU is stumbling forward. They prematurely blew their wad with Batman v Superman and it was a huge disappointment, both critically and commercially. They used A-list heroes and failed miserably. Meanwhile, the MCU built its foundation B-list heroes and exceeded all expectations. They're doing more with less. A more apt analogy is to say the MCU is the NFL and the DCEU is the XFL. Yes it was. You can lie all you want but you can't erase people's memories.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 26, 2017 16:36:04 GMT
You must seriously hate Dr Who, Star Wars, Star Trek, Farscape, etc. LOL!!! Only a dumb MCU fan like you would claim that GotG1 was as good as Star Wars or Star Trek. GotG1 is nothing like Star Wars or Star Trek. GotG1 is more like Howard the Duck.
Which isn't surprising, since GotG1 even had a scene with Howard the Duck in it.
Nah, GOTG just isn't ashamed of itself the way DC wishes it were. And yes, it has plenty in common with Star Wars, Dr Who, Star Trek, etc. In fact it was better than the Prequels. And GOTG had a GOOD scene with Howard. DC can't even give us a good scene with Superman.
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Post by spooner5020 on Apr 26, 2017 17:04:56 GMT
LOL!!! Only a dumb MCU fan like you would claim that GotG1 was as good as Star Wars or Star Trek. GotG1 is nothing like Star Wars or Star Trek. GotG1 is more like Howard the Duck.
Which isn't surprising, since GotG1 even had a scene with Howard the Duck in it.
Nah, GOTG just isn't ashamed of itself the way DC wishes it were. And yes, it has plenty in common with Star Wars, Dr Who, Star Trek, etc. In fact it was better than the Prequels. And GOTG had a GOOD scene with Howard. DC can't even give us a good scene with Superman. I agree and especially agree with a good scene with superman. DC fans need to man the fuck up and just admit DC movies suck. Superman was once a cool character,but now is the most boring superhero because Zack Snyder can't figure out what made superman work in the first place. He claims to be a fan of Superman,but has yet to show us the real superman and instead gives us a pretty boy who pretends he's superman. Suicide Squad was also a perfectly bad waste of 2 hours of my life my dad and I will never get back. There's no doubt Wonder Woman and Justice League and Aquaman will be on the same level of quality as BVS: Yawn of Justice and Suicide Squad.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 26, 2017 17:05:28 GMT
LOL!!! Only a dumb MCU fan like you would claim that GotG1 was as good as Star Wars or Star Trek. GotG1 is nothing like Star Wars or Star Trek. GotG1 is more like Howard the Duck.
Which isn't surprising, since GotG1 even had a scene with Howard the Duck in it.
Nah, GOTG just isn't ashamed of itself the way DC wishes it were. And yes, it has plenty in common with Star Wars, Dr Who, Star Trek, etc. In fact it was better than the Prequels. And GOTG had a GOOD scene with Howard. DC can't even give us a good scene with Superman.If we're talking about the modern DC flicks, I agree with this entirely. I wish it were otherwise, as I'm a fan of Superman, but I agree.
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Post by spooner5020 on Apr 26, 2017 17:07:05 GMT
And yes there is a real critic consensus for GOTG2. Look it up on Rotten Tomatoes. They say it's still a great movie,but that it doesn't outdo the first one to sum it up.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 26, 2017 17:13:01 GMT
Well, given what a surprise smash GOTG1 was that isn't so surprising.
People now EXPECT to an amazed and GOTG2 did that. With GOTG, they weren't expecting anything.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 17:59:50 GMT
It doesn't matter how much money Wonder Woman or Justice League or any of the other make. The MCU has cemented its place in history. Everything that comes afterwards is simply that - what came afterwards. Actually, no. Jurassic Park used to be the #1 all-time highest-grossing movie, but it was #1 for only 4 and 1/2 years and then Titanic became #1 and now Avatar is #1. Titanic and Avatar weren't just movies that simply came afterward. Titanic and Avatar are movies that knocked Jurrassic Park off the perch and became the current standard.
That's what's going to happen with MCU and the DCEU. Like Jurassic Park, the MCU had their run at the top (while the DCEU was still being planned), but now that the DCEU is moving forward, it's going to pass MCU and knock MCU off the perch the same way that Titanic and Avatar knocked Jurassic Park off the perch and the DCEU will become the new standard the same way that Titanic and then Avatar have become the current standard. Keep dreaming, Anne Hathaway Fan.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 26, 2017 18:04:10 GMT
I've asked you before and I'll ask you again: apart from being a total loser with nothing else to live for, how do you "bask" in Marvel's "success"? I for one own Disney stock and they send me a check four times a year, a small percentage of which comes from you and weirdraptor and the rest of your ilk. You guys are always crowing about how much money Disney makes as if it validates -- what? Where's your cut of the action? Mine is... in the mail. Literally. You may care only about the money, we just usually care about the pleasure we get from watching good CBMs. You're correct. I care only about taking your money and using it to see DCEU movies. So do me a favor and see this one six extra times just to get the grosses on that check up for me.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 26, 2017 18:13:49 GMT
it has plenty in common with Star Wars, Dr Who, Star Trek, etc. In fact it was better than the Prequels. Nope, GotG1 was a piece of crap and nothing like the Star Wars or Star Trek movies. GOTG had a GOOD scene with Howard. The Howard the Duck scene was a lame scene. DC can't even give us a good scene with Superman. DC had the most famous and iconic scene in CBM history and that scene had Superman in it. In Superman: The Movie, Superman makes his first public save by flying up, catching Lois, and then catching the falling helicopter with one hand, all while John Williams' epic theme is playing. That's the most famous and iconic scene in CBM history.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 26, 2017 18:17:17 GMT
it has plenty in common with Star Wars, Dr Who, Star Trek, etc. In fact it was better than the Prequels. Nope, GotG1 was a piece of crap and nothing like the Star Wars or Star Trek movies. GOTG had a GOOD scene with Howard. The Howard the Duck scene was a lame scene. DC can't even give us a good scene with Superman. DC had the most famous and iconic scene in CBM history and that scene had Superman in it. In Superman: The Movie, Superman makes his first public save by flying up, catching Lois, and then catching the falling helicopter with one hand, all while John Williams' epic theme is playing. That's the most famous and iconic scene in CBM history. GOTG did a better job being a Star Wars movie than any of the Prequels. And arguably Return of the Jedi. That Howard scene was a good coda. Better than that silliness with Batman in the Knightmare future. Nah, the Reeves Movies were good due to not having competition and no one having real expectations. They wouldn't do as well if released today.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 26, 2017 18:17:47 GMT
You may care only about the money, we just usually care about the pleasure we get from watching good CBMs. You're correct. I care only about taking your money and using it to see DCEU movies. So do me a favor and see this one six extra times just to get the grosses on that check up for me. So you take no pleasure from watching good movies. Sad.
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