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Post by Farside on Mar 11, 2020 18:02:06 GMT
Can being eclectic be a curse? Spielberg made a film for every genre. What is he "master" of though?
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Post by ck100 on Mar 11, 2020 18:07:55 GMT
Who says you have to be a master at something? I mean that would be great, but just being good at something is already hard enough to achieve. You're lucky enough just to be good at something.
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Post by Farside on Mar 11, 2020 18:10:00 GMT
Who says you have to be a master at something? I mean that would be great, but just being good at something is already hard enough to achieve. You're lucky enough just to be good at something.
I'd like to be a jack of all trades.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 11, 2020 18:18:51 GMT
He’s a master filmmaker which makes him capable of any genre he chooses.
All master filmmakers directors can do any genre so it’s idiotic to single out Spielberg.
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Post by Farside on Mar 11, 2020 18:20:16 GMT
He’s a master filmmaker which makes him capable of any genre he chooses. All master filmmakers directors can do any genre so it’s idiotic to single out Spielberg.
But what do you think of the woman's advice though? Or does what she said only apply to screenwriters?
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Post by Ass_E9 on Mar 11, 2020 18:24:27 GMT
Master manipulator?
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Post by vegalyra on Mar 11, 2020 18:41:51 GMT
He's a master at film making regardless of the genre in my opinion. The only missteps in my opinion were some of his more recent offerings (well, and Always). Of course, I love 1941 which a lot of people can't stand so there's that...
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 11, 2020 19:21:06 GMT
I think his best films are Duel and Jaws. Just as Coppola's best films were the Godfathers.
Some directors just work best as work for hire. Spielberg didn't have the stuff to be like Hitchcock or Disney where he could create an idea from scratch or push a trend. Giving a career to Robert Zemeckis was probably his biggest producing contribution of the 1980s.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 11, 2020 19:46:40 GMT
He’s a master filmmaker which makes him capable of any genre he chooses. All master filmmakers directors can do any genre so it’s idiotic to single out Spielberg.
But what do you think of the woman's advice though? Or does what she said only apply to screenwriters?
I can’t watch videos at work so I don’t know what her advice is. As a universal rule, the story is the thing. If a person known for horror comes up with an amazing romance, then they should write it or maybe blend it.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 11, 2020 19:47:21 GMT
Same thing. This is a positive in movie making.
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Post by Vits on Mar 12, 2020 10:01:40 GMT
There's no mention of Spielberg in the video, so I don't know how/why you made the connection.
This is good advice if you want studios to hire you to write film adaptations and/or re-write a draft. Also if you want networks to hire you to be a part of a writers room when the TV pilot has already been written. There's nothing wrong with any of that, but there are plenty of writers who prefer writing their owns scripts when they get an idea. Finish your script and try to sell it to a studio. If they look hesitant because you're an unknown, use salesman strategies to convince them. If this doesn't work, offer yourself as a writer for hire like Shannan is describing. You'll be able to say all the genres you can write without sounding vague, because you have printed evidence on your hands. If this doesn't work either, try to sell it to an independent director/producer. They'll definitely be more open-minded. If it works and the movie becomes successful, go that studio again and see how they reply.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 17:06:47 GMT
He's fine. Well, obviously he's better than fine. He's Stephen Spielberg. If I had to pinpoint his area of expertise, it's whimsy. Whimsy, fluffy happy endings (if not outright happy, then at least validating), riding off into the sunset, crowd pleasing...he rounds up, his films are usually positive. People leave feeling terrific.
I dunno. I thought about it for a minute yesterday, thinking about The Life of Oharu and why I like it so much. It's because it takes a swing at subject matter for which there is no happy ending. It and films like it in the Japanese pantheon of socially conscious slit-your-wrist movies make me think there's a greater ambition in dread, a sense that these might not be happy fun stories, but they're important and necessary. The top shelf choices from Mizoguchi and Kobayashi showcase some sort of societal injustice and by the time the story wraps up, the character's part of the story ends but the injustice lives on in the world after the movie.
Like Harakiri. The story of the man ends with his life, but the subsequent coverup keeps it going beyond the movie's finish. That's the statement at work. The film is over but the problems press on.
Lets be real, there is no underselling Stephen Spielberg's films or contributions. Good at everything, master of nothing is as close as it gets and I'm not even sure that's true. My personality type is better suited to the journey that ambitious and dreadfully sobering films take me. I'm not always a happy person and there's a lot about whimsy and happy endings I find false, whereas the internal nastiness and injustice on display in films like The Life of Oharu always seem like they're swinging at a greater truth, which to me makes them more real.
Maybe it's a mood thing. I loved Duel, and I have a soft spot for Raiders of the Lost Ark. A million kudos to the man regardless.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 12, 2020 21:54:45 GMT
I thought he was the master of blockbuster entertainment? Jaws was the first blockbuster, then there's Indiana Jones, ET, Jurassic Park, etc. He was so defined by these types of movies that a lot of his attempts to branch out were met with resistance until Schindler's List (and even then, a minority of people will invent problems with that movie just because Spielberg's name is attached).
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