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Post by mslo79 on Mar 13, 2020 1:39:14 GMT
My Top 3 movies since the year 2000 (which are the only movies I gave a 10/10 (in no order)) are...
-Road to Perdition (2002)
-Lord of War (2005)
-Gran Torino (2008)
NOTE: that makes up half of my 10/10's in general as there are only six movies I gave a 10/10.
If I want to judge years from 2000-to-date strictly by Top 3 movies in a given year, then my elite years are...
1)2005 (Lord of War(10/10)/Angel-A(9/10)/The Matador(8/10))
-)2002 (Road to Perdition(10/10)/25th Hour(9/10)/S1m0ne(8/10))
3)2008 (Gran Torino(10/10)/Felon(9/10)/Taken(7.5-8/10))
4)2010 (The American(9/10)/True Grit(8-8.5/10)/Edge of Darkness(8/10))
Looking at 2000 to date my stand out years overall, especially in terms of depth, are...
1)2010 (The American(9/10)/True Grit(8-8.5/10)/Edge of Darkness(8/10)/The Book of Eli(7.5-8/10)/Unthinkable(7.5-8/10)/London Boulevard(7.5-8/10)/Machete(7/10))
2)2006 (Running Scared(8/10)/Find Me Guilty(8/10)/Casino Royale(8/10)/The Departed(7.5-8/10)/Mission Impossible III(7.5-8/10)/Priceless(7/10)/Deja Vu(7/10)/Crank(6.5-7/10))
3)2011 (Source Code(8/10)/The Descendants(8/10)/Young Adult(7.5-8/10)/Kill The Irishman(7.5-8/10)/Mission Impossible 4(7.5-8/10)/Drive(7/10)/Drive Angry(7/10)/Carnage(7/10)/Miss Bala(6-6.5/10))
NOTE: with the '2000 to date overall' ranking above I mainly chose years that have a solid balance between strong movies and depth before quality falls below a certain standard. because while some years have higher highs then what I listed above, they don't go nearly as deep before falling below the 7.5-8/10 standard etc.
NOTE: since the OP mentioned 2007, the only movies of that year worth mentioning for me are... 1)Mr Brooks(8/10) 2-3)Eastern Promises/He Was a Quiet Man(7/10) 4)American Gangster(6.5-7/10) 5)Interview(6-6.5/10).
NOTE: the 2000's decade (i.e. 2000-2009) is my #1 decade for movies straight up overall.
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Post by rudeboy on Mar 13, 2020 1:58:34 GMT
None of the three films you named would make my top ten for the year, although TWWB has grown in my estimation since seeing it and could potentially slip in on a re-watch. 2007 was not a bad year, but there are several in the last two decades that impressed me more overall. 2001 and 2004 come to mind immediately. I know it's an opinion. But a lot of critics agree that TWBB is the best film of the 21st Century It's visually impressive and engrossing but there were elements I didn't care for - for example Paul Dano's performance and the bowling alley scene, which I found pretty ludicrous. DDL is of course a great actor and even here he is commanding, but it's one of my least favourite of his performances. I do appreciate its reputation but I could probably name a couple of hundred films from the century so far which I prefer.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 13, 2020 2:17:00 GMT
@thegodfatherpartii Key word = 'critics' I tend to give more weight to what the wide public thinks since they ultimately determine the true gems/classics from everything else. because a lot of critics praise movies that are largely forgotten not all that long after they are released with stuff in the Oscars etc. or a decent example of this is plays into what rudeboy said, "I do appreciate its[There Will Be Blood (2007)] reputation but I could probably name a couple of hundred films from the century so far which I prefer." because what a person ultimately enjoys watching the most is what's truly worth the most (which is what I think rudeboy basically commented on there). ranking any other way makes no sense at the end of the day. because like I always say a persons enjoyment of a movie, which generally comes back to ones emotional response in one form or another, is paramount. but I have a feeling critics in general do no judge movies by their own personal enjoyment but try to guess what others might think etc etc. I would rather have them judge it by how much they personally enjoy it as then they at least would be honest etc etc. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 13, 2020 2:59:00 GMT
Just for comparison
let's see what was released in the first 6 months of 1970
Scream and Scream Again
...tick...tick...tick...
Last of the Mobile Hot Shots
The Dunwich Horror
The Bird with the Crystal Plumage
The Only Game in Town
MASH
The Molly Maguires
The Kremlin Letter
Zabriskie Point
The Party at Kitty and Stud's
King of the Grizzlies
Loving
Airport
Skullduggery
The Liberation of L.B. Jones
Gamera vs. Jiger (Japan)
Waterloo
Patton
Colossus: The Forbin Project
The Cockeyed Cowboys of Calico County
Halls of Anger
Zig Zag
A Man Called Horse
Taste the Blood of Dracula
My Lover, My Son
Getting Straight
The Landlord
Too Late the Hero
The Magic Garden of Stanley Sweetheart
Beneath the Planet of the Apes
Pufnstuf
Watermelon Man
The Boatniks
The Executioner
The Invincible Six
The Strawberry Statement
Two Mules for Sister Sara
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
A Walk in the Spring Rain
The Hawaiians
Kelly's Heroes
Myra Breckinridge
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Post by Sarge on Mar 13, 2020 5:15:34 GMT
I would rather have them judge it by how much they personally enjoy it as then they at least would be honest etc etc. I 100% agree with your post. I don't even care about the critic's opinion, all I want from a review is to know if I will like a film, not whether the critic likes it. And unfortunately very few or no critics make the effort to provide that kind of insight.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 13, 2020 7:44:46 GMT
SargeYeah, that's pretty much the bottom line for people in general. but I guess it can be tricky to know whether one will like a movie or not by a critics review unless of course someone follows specific critics fairly regularly to see if their general taste is inline with their own or not (personally, while I do read a occasional review on a movie once in a while I largely do not as I tend to use my own judgement (keep reading for more info)). but either way... I think once a person has seen plenty of movies they can get a pretty good feel whether they will like a movie or not and can probably tell whether the movie they are about to watch has potential to stand out from the pack or not. at least that's my experience as I am usually pretty good in this regard as I tend to go into most movies I have seen expecting something around average, give or take, and the times a movie does stand out for me I can usually tell prior to seeing it based on the following four key categories... Subject Matter/Director/Cast/Trailer. but the Director option is not always a factor, since name directors are not always making movies, but the other three generally are a factor as you can usually gauge a movie pretty closely given those factors. sure, I am not 100% right but anyone who watches plenty of movies and is not super selective, is almost guaranteed to get burned once in a while with a total crap movie etc. I would say at this point in time I usually will underestimate a movie before ill overestimate one. because I think when someone is younger and has seen less movies they are more apt to buy into the hype and can damage their opinion of a movie because of it as they are more likely to go into a movie expecting the world from it and they will probably be disappointed most of the time when they go into a movie expecting something top notch. plus, I think as one gets older and has experienced more movies it's generally more difficult to please them to a higher degree than someone who's younger who has not seen as many movies as once you have seen plenty of movies you can tell what are the true gems vs just another movie sort of thing and I rate accordingly. because like I have mentioned in the past around here... there are 156 movies (another 34 if I count movies a bit shy of favorite movie status) out of the 2,300+ total movies I have seen that stand out from the pack. so while only about 7% (or about 1 out of every 15 movies I have seen over the long term) of all movies I have seen is good enough for me to call a favorite, about 20% (or about 1 out of every 5 movies I have seen) of everything I have seen is good enough for me to re-watch once in a while as like I have mentioned before... a movies true worth are the ones I like to re-watch from time-to-time as the years pass as those who fail to be worth re-watching are ultimately forgettable. that separates the movies that have any real worth from just another movie sort of thing. with that said... critics are generally better at writing reviews than the common person, as ill give them that much, but in the end, like you said, the main thing is whether you and I (and others reading the critics review) will ultimately like the movie or not. but like I was saying, I can't really fault them too much here since all I can really ask of them is that they judge movies based on EVERYTHING they have seen as at least then it will tell those who are reading their reviews how much that reviewer likes the movie being reviewed (so if they do praise it, it's legitimate praise, instead of more false praise). because you see a fair amount of BS on TV calling a bunch of average-ish movies 'masterpieces' here and there over the years, which is BS, as I doubt even that person who claimed that thinks all that highly of the movie and will probably have mostly forgotten about it not all that long after and will be onto the next movie which tells us a lot about what they truly think. NOTE: I get peoples opinions can change, for better or worse, as time passes with re-watches and all though. but you get the gist  I can't really fault them here as it would be like them trying to guess whether random people will like a movie. which is why all I ask of them is they just give their honest opinion of a movie in relation to ALL movies they have seen as that's how I rate all movies I see as it's the most accurate way of rating movies as those who try to rate movies by say genre will skew ratings a bit too high. for example... if one tried to judge a movie based on it's genre, it's might get a fairly high score but when compared to all movies that person has seen it might not be nothing special and I am more concerned with what a person thinks of a movie in relation to everything they have seen as if a movie fails to stand out here, then it's nothing special for that person at the end of the day.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Mar 13, 2020 8:58:51 GMT
20021. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 2. Dog Soldiers 3. Blade II 4. Spider-Man 🤣 |
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Post by darksidebeadle on Mar 13, 2020 9:02:29 GMT
It’s my favourite year of this century so far
1. Zodiac
2. There Will Be Blood
3. Into the Wild
4. Assassination of Jesse James ...
5. Control
6. The Bourne Ultimatum
7. Timecrimes
8. Paranoid Park
9. Hot Fuzz
10. The Mist
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