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Post by thenolan on Mar 16, 2020 20:40:26 GMT
Looks like comic fans are convinced that mcu has ruined thor. the thor character assassination raised its heard up again with rumours thor will now be appearing in GOTG 3. the ultimate comedy mcu series.
A lot of fans still seemed angry at fat thor and how thor 3 turned out. thor appearing in GOTG 4 does not give his fans any hope thor would return to the more serious thundergod. they think he will continue to be the fat running gag.
To the Thor fans, how do you feel? is he ruined?
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 16, 2020 22:11:51 GMT
They are all pretty much funnier than they are in the comics, but that's part of the reaso the whole thing has been successful.
He's funny, but has a good arc too. He's a dick at the beginning of the first movie, a lost soul at points in the Avengers, but knows who he is by the time End Game comes around: a warrior. The warrior. He knows he's not a king, but is pretty much the most important leader on the "battlefield".
Hulk was "ruined" more than Thor. It's a fucking disgrace they didn't let Hulk get another crack at Thanos.I get that they established NO ONE was gonig to beat him, but to not even let the Hulk be involved in beating was just a disservice to the character.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Mar 16, 2020 22:47:40 GMT
Looks like comic fans are convinced that mcu has ruined thor Statements like this make it obvious that you’re summers8. Only he would take his personal opinion and imply that the majority of people has the same opinion.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 17, 2020 0:59:14 GMT
He was already ruined in the 1990 tv movie with Bill Bixby.
They should have used the Abomination. Putting superheroes in that Hulk show was a big mistake. Daredevil also appeared too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 4:58:09 GMT
My opinion of Thor in Endgame depends on the day you ask me, but by the time he met the guardians of the Galaxy in Infinity War, he looked ready to walk into any room and assume leadership. He didn't just get better as he went along because the movies did, he played his character grown from the previous movies.
I never read much by way of comics, I'm a television show child who might have seen Thor once or twice maybe in the Silver Surfer cartoon, but the movies brought new life into him I never knew he had. I actually actively like Thor now because of Chris Hemsworth.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 17, 2020 5:28:33 GMT
Is that the word on the street?
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Post by summers8 on Mar 17, 2020 7:56:52 GMT
They are all pretty much funnier than they are in the comics, but that's part of the reaso the whole thing has been successful. He's funny, but has a good arc too. He's a dick at the beginning of the first movie, a lost soul at points in the Avengers, but knows who he is by the time End Game comes around: a warrior. The warrior. He knows he's not a king, but is pretty much the most important leader on the "battlefield". Hulk was "ruined" more than Thor. It's a fucking disgrace they didn't let Hulk get another crack at Thanos.I get that they established NO ONE was gonig to beat him, but to not even let the Hulk be involved in beating was just a disservice to the character. successful? successful for the brainless audiences. MCU is now showing you cant buy authentic art with their success. Remember when I showed you the first thor poster vs thor jokenock. let me refersh your memory thor jokenork Anyone real marvel film will take thor 1 anyday over thor jokenork.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 17, 2020 8:19:29 GMT
Why are our names all green?
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Mar 17, 2020 12:59:11 GMT
Why are our names all green? It's St. Patrick's Day
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Post by thenolan on Mar 17, 2020 14:44:33 GMT
They are all pretty much funnier than they are in the comics, but that's part of the reaso the whole thing has been successful. He's funny, but has a good arc too. He's a dick at the beginning of the first movie, a lost soul at points in the Avengers, but knows who he is by the time End Game comes around: a warrior. The warrior. He knows he's not a king, but is pretty much the most important leader on the "battlefield". Hulk was "ruined" more than Thor. It's a fucking disgrace they didn't let Hulk get another crack at Thanos.I get that they established NO ONE was gonig to beat him, but to not even let the Hulk be involved in beating was just a disservice to the character. I liked Edward Norton's hulk the best. there is something about Mark Ruffalo Hulk I dont like. he always looks too stupid and goofy when he transforms to Hulk. Hulk's cgi has always been difficult to pull of on screen but the recent hulk looks really fake. like video game.
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Post by Winter_King on Mar 17, 2020 14:55:37 GMT
I think the best Thor movie was the third one. I consider the first two, especially the second one, to be among the worst MCU movies.
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 17, 2020 16:42:08 GMT
They are all pretty much funnier than they are in the comics, but that's part of the reaso the whole thing has been successful. He's funny, but has a good arc too. He's a dick at the beginning of the first movie, a lost soul at points in the Avengers, but knows who he is by the time End Game comes around: a warrior. The warrior. He knows he's not a king, but is pretty much the most important leader on the "battlefield". Hulk was "ruined" more than Thor. It's a fucking disgrace they didn't let Hulk get another crack at Thanos.I get that they established NO ONE was gonig to beat him, but to not even let the Hulk be involved in beating was just a disservice to the character. successful? successful for the brainless audiences. MCU is now showing you cant buy authentic art with their success. Remember when I showed you the first thor poster vs thor jokenock. let me refersh your memory thor jokenork Anyone real marvel film will take thor 1 anyday over thor jokenork. Anyone who judges films based on poster should stop watching films and rethink his/her life.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 17, 2020 17:13:08 GMT
Again. I'll leave this scene here for you.
This is Thor. He's a guy that uses humor to hide his pain. It's the same with Stark. You guys don't understand people. These characters are tragic. You only look at the surface. You need things handed to you and in your face. So has these movies ruined Thor? Not even close.
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Post by thenolan on Mar 17, 2020 18:20:10 GMT
They are all pretty much funnier than they are in the comics, but that's part of the reaso the whole thing has been successful. He's funny, but has a good arc too. He's a dick at the beginning of the first movie, a lost soul at points in the Avengers, but knows who he is by the time End Game comes around: a warrior. The warrior. He knows he's not a king, but is pretty much the most important leader on the "battlefield". Hulk was "ruined" more than Thor. It's a fucking disgrace they didn't let Hulk get another crack at Thanos.I get that they established NO ONE was gonig to beat him, but to not even let the Hulk be involved in beating was just a disservice to the character. successful? successful for the brainless audiences. MCU is now showing you cant buy authentic art with their success. Remember when I showed you the first thor poster vs thor jokenock. let me refersh your memory thor jokenork Anyone real marvel film will take thor 1 anyday over thor jokenork. the difference is noted. when i first joined this board, I think my first post was to complain about how thor was portrayed in endgame. fat thor was bad. I don't see the thor in the first film as that character.
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Post by thenolan on Mar 17, 2020 18:29:51 GMT
Again. I'll leave this scene here for you. This is Thor. He's a guy that uses humor to hide his pain. It's the same with Stark. You guys don't understand people. These characters are tragic. You only look at the surface. You need things handed to you and in your face. So has these movies ruined Thor? Not even close. For grown ups comic fans, the movie ruined thor. this is why Joker and Logan can be worthy of oscars and engdame cant be. joker can actually address the issues of depression that is fitting. a tragic character. unless you are a kid with some adhd issues, yes, the movies has ruined thor. its stupid you want to argue the characters are tragic, tragic characters dont bomb the place with kiddie jokes every 10 second to make things light. Fat Thor is no Charles Xavier from DOFP and no Joker, This scene is much superior. its written more for mature comic fans who can handle heavier subject matters disney banned in mcu movies. I can buy this is still the same Xavier in logan I think the backlash to thor was deserved. he has been ruined
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Post by thenolan on Mar 17, 2020 18:32:16 GMT
My opinion of Thor in Endgame depends on the day you ask me, but by the time he met the guardians of the Galaxy in Infinity War, he looked ready to walk into any room and assume leadership. He didn't just get better as he went along because the movies did, he played his character grown from the previous movies.
I never read much by way of comics, I'm a television show child who might have seen Thor once or twice maybe in the Silver Surfer cartoon, but the movies brought new life into him I never knew he had. I actually actively like Thor now because of Chris Hemsworth.
it so so depends. I think many comic readers and mature comic book fans agree he has been ruined. kids and mcu fans wont agree. the advantage is the mature comic readers seems to be winning . also the backlash to mcu movies as kiddie theme parks does not help fat thor as it shows why these movies are theme parks.
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Post by dazz on Mar 17, 2020 18:48:43 GMT
successful? successful for the brainless audiences. MCU is now showing you cant buy authentic art with their success. Remember when I showed you the first thor poster vs thor jokenock. let me refersh your memory thor jokenork Anyone real marvel film will take thor 1 anyday over thor jokenork. the difference is noted. when i first joined this board, I think my first post was to complain about how thor was portrayed in endgame. fat thor was bad. I don't see the thor in the first film as that character. All that really shows is how dense you are, he does not resemble the same character he began as because he has grown as a character, Thor 1 is Thor who has never faced adversity, never looked beyond himself and his own wants, he isn't a hero because he wants to help people he is a hero because he wants adulation and he craves battle, despite being 1500 years old Thor is emotionally immature in Thor 1, in Endgame this is a character who has emotionally run the gambit in the last 10 years, he fell in love, was betrayed by his brother, realised his own arrogance, lost his mother, father, had to kill his sister, reconnected with his brother only to watch him be murdered along with one of his best friends, fell out of love, and allowed for half the universe to be erased.
If a character goes through all of that and is still the same character or close to it the writer has failed in developing the character, I get Fat Thor isn't for everyone, and having issues with him being so is fair, as is his exact use in Endgame, I personally don't mind it as I think Thor sinking into depression over what happened and letting himself go works for the character though it should not be the new standard for the character going forward because now the universe has been restored and Thor should also get back to how he was before and no longer suffering from his depression to the degree he was, some underlying issues would be one thing, being fat and slobby is another.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 18, 2020 0:03:39 GMT
Looks like comic fans are convinced that mcu has ruined thor. the thor character assassination raised its heard up again with rumours thor will now be appearing in GOTG 3. the ultimate comedy mcu series. A lot of fans still seemed angry at fat thor and how thor 3 turned out. thor appearing in GOTG 4 does not give his fans any hope thor would return to the more serious thundergod. they think he will continue to be the fat running gag. To the Thor fans, how do you feel? is he ruined? Not ruined. DESTROYED. THOR 1 was funny, not great, but the lead character did not feel like the real Thor from the comic books at all anyway. THOR 2 was mediocre, but still watchable. Again, that was not the real character from CBs. AVENGERS 1 and 2: THor was just a magnified cameo LOL. THOR 3: RAGNAROCK was a parody, a travesty, and Thor (in name only) was depicted as your average, stupid, brainless American football player. Terrible story, terrible acting, terrible direction, it was a comical cartoon. ENDGAME was the definitive nail in the coffin: I mean... FAT THOR. Everyone claiming the opposite is an MCU nerd totally detached from reality, and in deep denial.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 18, 2020 0:53:41 GMT
the difference is noted. when i first joined this board, I think my first post was to complain about how thor was portrayed in endgame. fat thor was bad. I don't see the thor in the first film as that character. All that really shows is how dense you are, he does not resemble the same character he began as because he has grown as a character, Thor 1 is Thor who has never faced adversity, never looked beyond himself and his own wants, he isn't a hero because he wants to help people he is a hero because he wants adulation and he craves battle, despite being 1500 years old Thor is emotionally immature in Thor 1, in Endgame this is a character who has emotionally run the gambit in the last 10 years, he fell in love, was betrayed by his brother, realised his own arrogance, lost his mother, father, had to kill his sister, reconnected with his brother only to watch him be murdered along with one of his best friends, fell out of love, and allowed for half the universe to be erased.
If a character goes through all of that and is still the same character or close to it the writer has failed in developing the character, I get Fat Thor isn't for everyone, and having issues with him being so is fair, as is his exact use in Endgame, I personally don't mind it as I think Thor sinking into depression over what happened and letting himself go works for the character though it should not be the new standard for the character going forward because now the universe has been restored and Thor should also get back to how he was before and no longer suffering from his depression to the degree he was, some underlying issues would be one thing, being fat and slobby is another.
Fat Thor (or Bro Thor as I've seen him called on Funco Pops) is a visual. It puts it in your face that this guy is gone. Like you said, he's gone through the crap and come out the other end beaten and on his knees. The Thor at the end is a Thor that has finally picked himself up. They aren't going to magically have him fit Thor at the end of Endgame because that would make his fall superficial. I think some time will pass and Thor will be back to himself.
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Post by summers8 on Mar 18, 2020 6:36:07 GMT
the difference is noted. when i first joined this board, I think my first post was to complain about how thor was portrayed in endgame. fat thor was bad. I don't see the thor in the first film as that character. All that really shows is how dense you are, he does not resemble the same character he began as because he has grown as a character, Thor 1 is Thor who has never faced adversity, never looked beyond himself and his own wants, he isn't a hero because he wants to help people he is a hero because he wants adulation and he craves battle, despite being 1500 years old Thor is emotionally immature in Thor 1, in Endgame this is a character who has emotionally run the gambit in the last 10 years, he fell in love, was betrayed by his brother, realised his own arrogance, lost his mother, father, had to kill his sister, reconnected with his brother only to watch him be murdered along with one of his best friends, fell out of love, and allowed for half the universe to be erased.
If a character goes through all of that and is still the same character or close to it the writer has failed in developing the character, I get Fat Thor isn't for everyone, and having issues with him being so is fair, as is his exact use in Endgame, I personally don't mind it as I think Thor sinking into depression over what happened and letting himself go works for the character though it should not be the new standard for the character going forward because now the universe has been restored and Thor should also get back to how he was before and no longer suffering from his depression to the degree he was, some underlying issues would be one thing, being fat and slobby is another.
thor went from the most bad ass avenger in the first film to a running gag joke by the last film? Like Nolan said, its how thor reacted to the depression. that seems to be the real stinker. People don't seem to like how thor got turned into a big fat slob joke Can you mcu fanatics stop defending idiotic writing that was dumbed down for kids. if he was suffering from depression, the movie never made it realistic. Please tells us again why MCU rejected the demon in the bottle story line from iron man 3.
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