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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 20, 2020 12:57:57 GMT
You don’t consider yourself a nerd? Sorry but you’re a massive nerd. Nothing to be ashamed about. I'm not against nerds. I'm against MCU nerds. LOL
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Post by bud47 on Mar 20, 2020 16:22:12 GMT
Thor evolved throughout the films, which is what any well developed character needs.
I'm not a fan of the direction they took him in in every aspect, but I understand, unlike some people, that this is the film/MCU version of the character, not the comic books.
The audience has to find the character entertaining in order to remain engaged and they need to see him grow beyond a one-note bore, which is what he would have been had he remained as he was in the first Thor film.
I also think that they made some of these changes to keep Chris Hemsworth interested in the role, by making him more comedic and well-rounded. He was starting to tire and it showed.
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 20, 2020 16:35:22 GMT
Nah. The only time I was remotely interested in the Thor character, in fact, was in the last Avengers movie, where Thor sees his deceased mother again. Those scenes always get to me, even (or especially?) if they’re in otherwise silly, fun action flicks.
On the other hand, I didn’t think the humor in Ragnarok worked for that plot.
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Post by summers8 on Mar 20, 2020 18:23:41 GMT
People need to remember something about thor. it goes back to iron man 2 and iron man 3. thor is a joke because Disney banned the demon in battle storyline, so it mans thor was destined to be a joke. he had no chance but to be ruined.
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Post by summers8 on Mar 20, 2020 18:27:11 GMT
successful? successful for the brainless audiences. MCU is now showing you cant buy authentic art with their success. Remember when I showed you the first thor poster vs thor jokenock. let me refersh your memory thor jokenork Anyone real marvel film will take thor 1 anyday over thor jokenork. ^^^Someone's bitter over the FOX-Men's defunct franchise is dead and buried. MAKE MINE MARVEL (MCU)!!! make mine marvel. you mean the marvel that wrote this story that Disney banned? LOL. When will mcu can not get into debate with actual truth and depth. make mine marvel, LMAO? what marvel? Thanks to fox with films like DOFP, LOGAN X2, DEADPOOL, MCU died artistically. this is why the mcu fans attack people. they cant defend their films.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 20, 2020 19:52:53 GMT
You don’t consider yourself a nerd? Sorry but you’re a massive nerd. Nothing to be ashamed about. I'm not against nerds. I'm against MCU nerds. LOL Funny thing is that you are trying to make it an insult. Not working when you made a full website on "fixing" the X-men movie timeline. If those movies are so brilliant, you wouldn't need to fix anything.
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 20, 2020 19:58:10 GMT
People need to remember something about thor. it goes back to iron man 2 and iron man 3. thor is a joke because Disney banned the demon in battle storyline, so it mans thor was destined to be a joke. he had no chance but to be ruined. Again, why are you so obsessed with Demon in the Bottle storyline? You seem to be treating it as the single greatest comics story of all time based on how much you're trashing Disney just because they didn't use it.
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 20, 2020 20:00:05 GMT
^^^Someone's bitter over the FOX-Men's defunct franchise is dead and buried. MAKE MINE MARVEL (MCU)!!!make mine marvel. you mean the marvel that wrote this story that Disney banned? LOL. When will mcu can not get into debate with actual truth and depth. make mine marvel, LMAO? what marvel? Thanks to fox with films like DOFP, LOGAN X2, DEADPOOL, MCU died artistically. this is why the mcu fans attack people. they cant defend their films. I'm sorry. I just can't. Deadpool caused MCU to die artistically? I've seen that film at least twice now and one word that does not describe that one is "artistic".
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Post by bud47 on Mar 20, 2020 21:05:06 GMT
People need to remember something about thor. it goes back to iron man 2 and iron man 3. thor is a joke because Disney banned the demon in battle storyline, so it mans thor was destined to be a joke. he had no chance but to be ruined. Again, why are you so obsessed with Demon in the Bottle storyline? You seem to be treating it as the single greatest comics story of all time based on how much you're trashing Disney just because they didn't use it. Yeah, it's not like Fox treated the Phoenix/Dark saga with any respect at all, even after two failed attempts.
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 20, 2020 23:27:06 GMT
Again, why are you so obsessed with Demon in the Bottle storyline? You seem to be treating it as the single greatest comics story of all time based on how much you're trashing Disney just because they didn't use it. Yeah, it's not like Fox treated the Phoenix/Dark saga with any respect at all, even after two failed attempts. Have you ever played Warcraft 3? If you did, remember all those Zombie quotes that are simply made out of some dead noises? That seems like how summers8 believes that all great films should be like.
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Post by summers8 on Mar 21, 2020 8:24:33 GMT
I'm not against nerds. I'm against MCU nerds. LOL Funny thing is that you are trying to make it an insult. Not working when you made a full website on "fixing" the X-men movie timeline. If those movies are so brilliant, you wouldn't need to fix anything. thatguy/bud47 shows they are the same person. bud47 was upset on the fixing the timeline thread. now thatguy is as well. most of X1 to logan are brilliant. how many times did this movies embarrass the mcu movies?
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Post by summers8 on Mar 21, 2020 8:30:31 GMT
Sad, that you just made a joke about a truth. let's look at 2016. remember Deadpool went up against dr strange and civil war and Deadpool destroyed those movies. Deadpool was one of the best films of 2016 and went on to get producers guild and golden globes nominations. Deadpool was praised for the boldness', art house comic style and daring take of comic story telling mixing real issues like dark humour, cancer issues, fourth walls, romance and director and actor duos. despite the hype of civil war got which was mostly to Spiderman, civil war faded fast,meanwhile Deadpool was more remembered. Deadpool actually pulled a joker in 2016 with mcu movies before joker did in 2019. yeah, Deadpool caused mcu to die antically because it showed the limits and how childish mcu movies are. the best part about Deadpool is, it did not have the Disney machine to back it up.
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Post by summers8 on Mar 21, 2020 8:38:04 GMT
Again, why are you so obsessed with Demon in the Bottle storyline? You seem to be treating it as the single greatest comics story of all time based on how much you're trashing Disney just because they didn't use it. Yeah, it's not like Fox treated the Phoenix/Dark saga with any respect at all, even after two failed attempts. there is fine line between a disappointing movie made by hacks and banning story lines. the fact is fox would never have banned the demon in a bottle story line, their problem would have been getting a great director to adapt it. which is still a better place to be than mcu manufactured childish formulaic crap. I can take two bad phoenix movies, at least fox got god live man kills, days of future past, old man logan and the death of wolverine , children of the atom and Deadpool stories right that got real acclaim not acclaim for Disney jokes like fat thor that even many xmen director slammed as harmful to the genre. What has mcu gotten right? mostly nothing. all their movies are for Disney to sell toys. This is mcu fans best comeback? LMAO. I cant wait for mcu xmen to fail harder than dark pheoenix. bring it on.
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Post by summers8 on Mar 21, 2020 8:40:01 GMT
Nah. The only time I was remotely interested in the Thor character, in fact, was in the last Avengers movie, where Thor sees his deceased mother again. Those scenes always get to me, even (or especially?) if they’re in otherwise silly, fun action flicks. On the other hand, I didn’t think the humor in Ragnarok worked for that plot. Yes again in the comics Ragnarok is more like lord of the rings and game of thrones. it is not humor or joke. Mnay thor and marvel fans rejected the raganork movie. hmmm, mcu fans only defence was the movie's high rt score which has now been exposed as a lie and fraud.
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 21, 2020 9:07:34 GMT
Funny thing is that you are trying to make it an insult. Not working when you made a full website on "fixing" the X-men movie timeline. If those movies are so brilliant, you wouldn't need to fix anything. thatguy/bud47 shows they are the same person. bud47 was upset on the fixing the timeline thread. now thatguy is as well. most of X1 to logan are brilliant. how many times did this movies embarrass the mcu movies? X-Men series didn't embarrass anyone but themselves with its suckage of a finale that is X-Men: Dark Phoenix. At least Avengers: Endgame was considered as a beloved conclusion by just about everyone.
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 21, 2020 9:24:53 GMT
Sad, that you just made a joke about a truth. let's look at 2016. remember Deadpool went up against dr strange and civil war and Deadpool destroyed those movies. Deadpool was one of the best films of 2016 and went on to get producers guild and golden globes nominations. Deadpool was praised for the boldness', art house comic style and daring take of comic story telling mixing real issues like dark humour, cancer issues, fourth walls, romance and director and actor duos. despite the hype of civil war got which was mostly to Spiderman, civil war faded fast,meanwhile Deadpool was more remembered. Deadpool actually pulled a joker in 2016 with mcu movies before joker did in 2019. yeah, Deadpool caused mcu to die antically because it showed the limits and how childish mcu movies are. the best part about Deadpool is, it did not have the Disney machine to back it up. 1. I'm starting to see your logic now, and that logic is that if one film is better than other similar films from a same year, those other films are utter trash(es) by default. Guess what, buddy. It doesn't work that way. Just because Deadpool was great doesn't mean that Doctor Strange or Captain America: Civil War are terrible. 2. Yes, Deadpool was nominated for Golden Globe - and it was for Best Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy. The sad news is, just because it got a nomination for Best Picture or something doesn't mean it's one of the best films of the year. Case in point, Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close was infamously nominated for Best Picture despite getting mixed reviews. 3. It's amazing how detached from reality you truly are. It's true that Deadpool was praised for several things, but I'm pretty sure art house comic style and cancer themes weren't reasons behind the praise. In fact, the film pretty much makes fun of everything and is downright offensive at times. The reason why no one exactly care is because it KNOW how to be offensive AND funny at the same time. 4. It seems that your definition of "mature" is based on how much adult content a film contains. That just goes on to show how retarded you truly are. I mean, if we go by this logic, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen would be more mature than Up because the former has more mature contents than the latter. 5. I honestly have no idea why you hate Disney this much. I mean, I'm pretty sure that Disney allowed Deadpool 3 to be R-rated, so there's that.
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 21, 2020 9:28:29 GMT
Nah. The only time I was remotely interested in the Thor character, in fact, was in the last Avengers movie, where Thor sees his deceased mother again. Those scenes always get to me, even (or especially?) if they’re in otherwise silly, fun action flicks. On the other hand, I didn’t think the humor in Ragnarok worked for that plot. Yes again in the comics Ragnarok is more like lord of the rings and game of thrones. it is not humor or joke. Mnay thor and marvel fans rejected the raganork movie. hmmm, mcu fans only defence was the movie's high rt score which has now been exposed as a lie and fraud. I really want to ask you something. Have you actually seen Thor: Ragnarok? Because if you did, you would know that the film gets more serious as it progresses. And the film also betrays its own message of Asgard being people on purpose by having Thanos' ship to attack Asgardians. I know that this happens during the mid-credit scene, but that's actually very dark, if you ask me.
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 21, 2020 9:50:24 GMT
Yeah, it's not like Fox treated the Phoenix/Dark saga with any respect at all, even after two failed attempts. there is fine line between a disappointing movie made by hacks and banning story lines. the fact is fox would never have banned the demon in a bottle story line, their problem would have been getting a great director to adapt it. which is still a better place to be than mcu manufactured childish formulaic crap. I can take two bad phoenix movies, at least fox got god live man kills, days of future past, old man logan and the death of wolverine , children of the atom and Deadpool stories right that got real acclaim not acclaim for Disney jokes like fat thor that even many xmen director slammed as harmful to the genre. What has mcu gotten right? mostly nothing. all their movies are for Disney to sell toys. This is mcu fans best comeback? LMAO. I cant wait for mcu xmen to fail harder than dark pheoenix. bring it on. 1. Yet again, you're continue to trash Disney just because of the whole Demon in the Bottle thing. Are you treating this story as some sort of a holy scripture? Because at this point, I'm starting to think that's exactly how you see that story. 2. How can you be sure that Fox would do a good job at the story? If anything, Fox could turn it into an utter embarrassment. 3. You seem to be someone who is totally fine with your favorite comics stories getting completely botched as long as they make it. Here's the problem with that kind of mindset. If a comics material gets botched badly, the entire lore of comic book characters involved could get looked down upon, which is pretty much what happened with Green Lantern - at least in my country. 4. Yeah, even without the scandal, one of those X-Men directors turned out to be a lazy bum who wasn't even trying to do his job properly, which ended up getting himself fired from one of his non- X-Men films named Bohemian Rhapsody. I'm pretty sure the only reason why that film got somehow nominated for Best Picture is because everyone thought that it was going to be an utter train wreck and it wasn't. I mean, think about it. When was the last time the director pretty much got thrown out because he was so lazy to even try? 5. MCU got NOTHING right? Really? Have you actually seen Avengers: Endgame and what they did with Tony Stark and Steve Rogers? The latter's conclusion, in particular, was sometimes considered as a significant improvement over the comics' treatment. 6. The last sentence shows just how much of a mean-spirited individual you truly are. I don't think I've seen someone who wants something to fail this badly just because he can. But then again, you're an utter shit of a human being who claimed that MCU fans have never heard of the Holocaust, so why am I even surprised. 7. Again, I must ask, what are you trying to achieve here? All you're doing is clearly creating more Fox X-Men haters instead of turning MCU fans into MCU haters. On the other hand, if you're trying to cause another OdumC, it's actually working pretty well.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 21, 2020 14:23:28 GMT
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Post by kleinreturns on Mar 21, 2020 14:26:18 GMT
^^^Someone's bitter over the FOX-Men's defunct franchise is dead and buried. MAKE MINE MARVEL (MCU)!!!make mine marvel. you mean the marvel that wrote this story that Disney banned? LOL. When will mcu can not get into debate with actual truth and depth. make mine marvel, LMAO? what marvel? Thanks to fox with films like DOFP, LOGAN X2, DEADPOOL, MCU died artistically. this is why the mcu fans attack people. they cant defend their films. As opposed to FOX-Men only rehashing Weapon X and FAILING each time along with TWO FAILED Dark Phoenix Storylines (the latter Box Office and Critical disaster in 2019 had you hiding from this forum for months LOL). The Frank Miller based Japan/Shingen storyline was CRAP in the Wolverine ( A FREAKING SILVER SAMURAI MECHA SUIT...REALLY)and the movie version of DOFP was a dumpster fire like Ivan Ooze.
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